Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-11 Thread Peter Southwood
In the interests of clarity, does the soft limit apply by calendar month? I don’t think Gerard is disrespectful so much as brusque in his communication style. Perhaps this is due to communicating in what is for him a foreign language. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-11 Thread Michael Peel
> On 11 Feb 2017, at 19:08, rupert THURNER wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: >> Hello, everyone. >> >> I share the opinion that moderation actions should be transparent. So: >> >> I have now placed Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-11 Thread John Erling Blad
Gerard, ... he has good points too, even if he is stubborn like a mule - like the rest og us! ;) 11. feb. 2017 19.49 skrev "Asaf Bartov" : > Hello, everyone. > > I share the opinion that moderation actions should be transparent. So: > > I have now placed Gerard Meijssen on

[Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone. I share the opinion that moderation actions should be transparent. So: I have now placed Gerard Meijssen on moderation. He has been posting very frequently to the list, far exceeding the requested "soft limit" of 30 posts per month, and has exhibited disrespectful discourse. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 February 2017 at 21:18, Michael Peel wrote: >> asaf, you are one of the most respected dinosaurs in this universe, > Which species of dinosaur? Wikisourus, of course. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

[Wikimedia-l] Au secours la traduction!

2017-02-11 Thread marc
English text follows. Bonjour les francophones! Le Wiki de Wikimania 2017 à Montréal a besoin d'aide de volontaires pour assurer la traduction vers le français. Les équipes organisationnelles sont au dur labeur de tout mettre en place mais la mise à jour des pages en français prends un

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-11 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > I share the opinion that moderation actions should be transparent. So: > > I have now placed Gerard Meijssen on moderation. He has been posting very > frequently to the list, far exceeding the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-02-11 Thread Anna Stillwell
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 11:52 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Anna I absolutely loved what you write. Gerard, I'm feeling the love, dude. (A fellow co-worker and I were talking the other day and she said that she even calls inanimate objects dude. I deeply

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-02-11 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Anna, > Sometimes I wonder if hope isn’t at the base of it all. Perhaps hope is > necessary but certainly not sufficient for it all to transpire. Hope is not > a strategy. But maybe it's a foundation. > Certainly, but there is an old saying about "the triumph of hope over experience". The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-02-11 Thread Jane Darnell
To understand Hoi you first need to get yourself some stroopwafels to go with your coffee On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Anna Stillwell wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 11:52 PM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Anna I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-02-11 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
James and others, The question of whether the WMF ought or ought not to have a roadmap is an interesting one, which I enourage you to debate not with me but with Wes Moran and the other members of the WMF leadership, for whom it is an actionable point. My question is addressed to that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] banner proposals

2017-02-11 Thread Romaine Wiki
> because it has proven that we do not care about our own. Besides this is complete nonsense, that the discussion goes in this way it proofs we fail in being able to have a mature discussion on arguments and not emotions. And claiming this kind of nonsense like "we do not care about our own"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-02-11 Thread James Salsman
The Foundation doesn't have a product roadmap because new product goals are updated at least once a year; more often internally. A roadmap as described in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_roadmap is appropriate when long term plans are under centralized control and not subject to change.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] banner proposals

2017-02-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, We do not care about our own. I do acknowledge that some have other opinions but I do not have to respect such an opinion. The proof of the pudding is after all in the eating and we allowed this to happen, no sound came out of our community that said otherwise. The fact of the matter is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-02-11 Thread Peter Southwood
Good answer. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anna Stillwell Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2017 3:34 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-02-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Rogol... the past... whose past? When you argue that we have to learn from the past, it is good to accept current polities of a project as an argument but such an argument has to convince us all. I have experience and I dispair. I find that policies that are external to me should be accepted

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Interactive Team putting work on pause

2017-02-11 Thread Peter Southwood
While we are on the subject of the meaning of words, to me a road map is a map of the road system. Something we used before we had talking GPS to navigate to unfamiliar places when travelling by car. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l