FYI, Edward Galvez has been maintaining this calendar that has been going
for a while that chapters and staff have been using for various
consultations, surveys, and RfCs.
Seems to me this is a good approach to avoid the issue of
Thanks for that. You write
we are actively working on trying to reduce
> the mandatory time board members have to allocate to WMF. Goal is between
> this year and next year to lower it down to what we benchmarked as average
> (and I can't find the number again, I'll dig into that).
> We are happy to announce that the 2016 Picture of the Year competition is now
Thank you. It is always a pleasure to vote for those very good pictures.
> For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories.
I dont understand why this picture :
>>I dont understand why this picture :
is in the birds category :
Sorting error. It has been moved to the correct category. Thank you :-)
My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications
(too much and too little) and information overload are both challenges. I
don't think there's going to be a silver bullet solution, but I hope that
WMF will invest effort into addressing this set of problems during the next
You mean, "how to deal with people who complain they weren't consulted
then turn around and complain they were excessively consulted"? At
this point, the appropriate thing would be to put forward a plausible
solution rather than complain they did the thing you claimed they
Thanks for the comments.
I think of WMF Board membership as being similar to ENWP Arbcom or some
event committee memberships in the sense that doing the roles well often
seems to require a near-martyrdom level of commitment. I'd like to see some
ceilings on workloads for volunteers,
Well, folks are free to ignore invitations to comment; there are indeed a
lot of discussion notices for various matters, so I don't blame them if
they world rather volunteer their time in other places.
But they cannot then also argue that they didn't know about it. If people
want to know what's
(branching this into a new thread as it gets quite off topic)
Pine: Why do you think the solution lies with the Wikimedia Foundation?
2017-03-18 22:52 GMT+01:00 Pine W :
> My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications
> (too much and too
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Pine W wrote:
> As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate
> its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a
> predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood
> The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard
> > And... magically...
That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and (2) have
hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the other
hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many announcements,
surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out.
As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate
its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a
predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+
notifications every month for separate consultations and surveys, with some
of those being
Of course we could benefit from consolidation and pruning of communication
channels. This has been the case for at least a decade, how to do that
without alienating part of the community that uses the pruned channels is a
very difficult task, however.
Nevertheless, this does not mean one can
We are happy to announce that the 2016 Picture of the Year competition is now
Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international
Wikimedia Commons community. From professional animal and plant shots to
breathtaking panoramas and skylines,
The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard wrote:
> And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda,
> EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot !
> I copied it here :
By the same argument, then, the Foundation should be compensating the
unpaid volunteers who actually create the content of the projects, and
supporting them with the tools and resources they need to do that work.
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Pine W wrote:
Many topics covered here :)
1. Paid vs. unpaid: I don't know of the legal situation, but I always felt
that for a NGO it is better to have a volunteer board. Especially for us as
our movement is built thanks to volunteers. I fear it would slightly hinder
our message if trustees were paid.
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