[Wikimedia-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q Session #2

2017-05-02 Thread Srishti Sethi
Hello everyone, Please join us for the Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q Session #2 by Victoria Coleman (CTO) and Toby Negrin (Interim VP of Product) on May 9, 2017, at 17:00 UTC via YouTube live. Link to live YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kfgU9SZcg IRC channel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Turn the extension for ContentTranslation off?

2017-05-02 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Note, this thread was forked into a different subject/title. See - "[Wikimedia-l] machine translation" - for newer discussion and detail. ‚Äč ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-02 Thread John Erling Blad
Actually this _is_ about turning ContentTranslation off, that is what several users in the community want. They block people using the extension and delete the translated articles. Use of ContentTranslation has become a rather contentious case. Yandex as a general translation engine to be able

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Commons Photographers User Group

2017-05-02 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized the Commons Photographers User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group is an international cooperative of photography enthusiasts who publish their images under free licenses, with the goal of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2017-05-02 21:47 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad : > Yandex as a general translation engine to be able to read some alien > language is quite good, but as an engine to produce written text it is not > very good at all. ... Nor is it supposed to be. A translator is a person.

[Wikimedia-l] New Free Research Accounts via the Wikipedia Library

2017-05-02 Thread Jake Orlowitz
Hi! The Wikipedia Library has new, free research access available: * Bloomsbury (Who's Who, Drama Online, Berg Fashion Library, and Whitaker's): * American Psychiatric Association (Psychiatry books and journals):

[Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2017-05-02 18:20 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad : > Brute force solution; turn the ContentTranslation off. Really stupid > solution. ... Then I guess you don't mind that I'm changing the thread name :) > The next solution; turn the Yandex engine off. That would solve a > part of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Turn the extension for ContentTranslation off?

2017-05-02 Thread Lodewijk
Hi John, Could you provide a bit more context? From which language are you drawing these experiences? Did you consider filing a phabricator request for the technical component that can be improved (if so, could you link to it)? Could you also provide some links to these discussions that are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-02 Thread Pharos
I think it all depends on the level of engagement of the human translator. When the tool is used in the right way, it is a fantastic tool. Maybe we can find better methods to nudge people toward taking their time and really doing work on their translations. Thanks, Pharos On Tue, May 2, 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-02 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Content translation with Yandex is also a problem in Bengali Wikipedia. Some users have grown a tendency to create machine translated meaningless articles with this extension to increase edit count and article count. This has increased the workloads of admins to find and delete those articles.

[Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 30 April 2017)

2017-05-02 Thread Pine W
I'm happy to see the development of the Commons Photographers User Group . Personal background story (feel free to skip reading this): The first DSLR I touched was easy to use with the automatic settings for indoor photography in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners [including non-techies!]

2017-05-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello again. I'd like to let you know that thanks to Victor Grigas, the Commons video of this talk (link below) now has English subtitles, synced to the talk. This should make it easier to *translate the subtitles *to make this video useful for fellow Wikimedians in other languages. It's a very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Turn the extension for ContentTranslation off?

2017-05-02 Thread James Heilman
Many of the volunteers I work with really like the "Content Translation" tool. Machine translation only exists in some languages. For many it is not an option at all. Yes peer review processes are needed, and yes doing follow up and inviting new people to our movement is a lot of work (I do a

[Wikimedia-l] Turn the extension for ContentTranslation off?

2017-05-02 Thread John Erling Blad
Yes, I wonder if the extension for content translation should be turned off. Not because it is really bad, but because it allows creating translations that isn't quite good enough, and those translations creates fierce internal fighting between contributors. Some people use CT, and makes fairly