Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 30 April 2017)

2017-05-03 Thread Kalliope Tsouroupidou
+1 on this. News of the newly recognised User Group put a smile on my face :) K. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:25 AM, Pine W wrote: > I'm happy to see the development of the Commons Photographers User Group > . >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 30 April 2017)

2017-05-03 Thread James Heilman
Marielle there are a lot of great medical images in that textbook, Fae is there an ability to upload the images to commons by bot? James On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:06 AM, Marielle Volz wrote: > What made me happy this week was the discovery of some good scientific >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners [including non-techies!]

2017-05-03 Thread יגאל חיטרון
Thanks a lot! Igal On May 3, 2017 07:56, "Asaf Bartov" wrote: > Hello again. > > I'd like to let you know that thanks to Victor Grigas, the Commons video of > this talk (link below) now has English subtitles, synced to the talk. This > should make it easier to *translate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
My idea was that adding an extra button to press brings the probability of the whole process down. If someone is determine to systemically add bad machine translations to the main namespace I guess only blocks could help. On the other hand, and extra button gives at leat an opportunity to read the

[Wikimedia-l] Voting has begun in 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections

2017-05-03 Thread Joe Sutherland
This is a message from the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee.[1] Translations are available: Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2017 elections for the

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia District of Columbia: New Institutional Partnerships Manager

2017-05-03 Thread Robert Fernandez
Wikimedia District of Columbia is pleased to announce the hiring of our first employee. Ariel Cetrone has joined WMDC as our Institutional Partnerships Manager, where she will plan and facilitate events with our many institutional partners, including cultural, academic, and professional

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Voting has begun in 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections

2017-05-03 Thread Joe Sutherland
This is a message from the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee.[1] Translations are available: < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2017/Updates/Board_voting_has_begun > Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2017 elections for the

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikivoyage Association

2017-05-03 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized the Wikivoyage Association [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group plans to support Wikivoyage in various ways, including fundraising, promotion, and technical development. Please join me in congratulating

[Wikimedia-l] Security: phishing attack via Google Docs

2017-05-03 Thread Pine W
There are reports of a "sophisticated" phishing attack on Google Docs users today. I believe that many WMF staff, Wikimedia affiliate staff, and individual Wikimedians make use of Google apps, so I'm forwarding this news to Wikimedia lists. Victims of this attack may have had their data

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikivoyage Association

2017-05-03 Thread Lodewijk
Very pleased to hear that the Wikivoyage Association, which exists longer than most chapters and predates the adoption of Wikivoyage as a Wikimedia projects. Recognition well deserved! I hope this will help expand their userbase and activities. Lodewijk On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Kirill

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Creating machine translations only in the draft space (or in the user space in the projects which do not have draft) could help. Cheers Yaroslav On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Pharos wrote: > I think it all depends on the level of engagement of the human

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 30 April 2017)

2017-05-03 Thread Marielle Volz
What made me happy this week was the discovery of some good scientific imagery that was openly licensed! The USDA has created a bunch of identification sites for species of agricultural interest and released the images into the public domain. I was looking for images of a particular mite and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread Wojciech Pędzich
It does depend a lot on the engagement level of the human behind the keyboard. When I deal with machine-translated text, I simply wonder whether the someone behind the keyboard took efforts to actually read the piece. Now whether this would work if limited to namespaces outside "main" - I do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
[ Meta-comment: We usually call it "CX" and not "CT".[1] ] 2017-05-03 13:37 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad : > > > > More seriously, it's quite possible that they already used some of the > > translations made by the Norwegian Wikipedia community. In addition to > > being published

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread John Erling Blad
> > More seriously, it's quite possible that they already used some of the > translations made by the Norwegian Wikipedia community. In addition to > being published as an article, each translated paragraph is saved into > parallel corpora, and machine translation developers read the edited text >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Turn the extension for ContentTranslation off?

2017-05-03 Thread John Erling Blad
I don't think it is useful to discuss projects and people, discuss processes and fixes. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > Hi John, > > Could you provide a bit more context? From which language are you drawing > these experiences? Did you consider

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Perhaps it would be a good idea to compare the translated text to the text that the user wants to save. If they are more than 95% the same, that means that the user didn't take the effort to correct the text. Cheers, Micru On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Wojciech Pędzich

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread Lodewijk
Reading this, I get a strong impression the problem may very well be in setting expectations for the users of this translation tool. If they expect the automated translation to be rather good, they may get fed up more easily than when they consider it primarily a glorified dictionary. Lodewijk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread John Erling Blad
Note that some language pairs could easily be 100% correct. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:06 PM, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > Perhaps it would be a good idea to compare the translated text to the text > that the user wants to save. > > If they are more than 95% the same, that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread John Erling Blad
Agree! I also wonder if translators adapt to specific errors if they are repeated to often. I wonder if it works like priming the brain to a specific pattern. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Reading this, I get a strong impression the problem may

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, This seems to me like a social problem, rather than a technical one. Shutting down the tool would be a disadvantage for those people who benefit from the tool and do good things with it. What is the general opinion among the Norwegians about this issue? Is there consent about how to deal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2017-05-03 14:06 GMT+03:00 David Cuenca Tudela : > Perhaps it would be a good idea to compare the translated text to the text > that the user wants to save. > > If they are more than 95% the same, that means that the user didn't take > the effort to correct the text. > >