Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-08 Thread Gnangarra
> > ​ > Verifiability can be very different. For example oral sources ​very agree, the intangible sources are a really challenge to way you look at verifiability. Not only are wanting to gather the information and make it possible for others to also access it the very nature of the sources is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
I agree with Strainu's comments above. I described some issues with adopting policies and ill-fitting policies under the Community Governance capacity page, in the Community Capacity Development program: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development/Community_governance A.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

2017-08-08 Thread Natacha Rault
Dear All, More than a quarter of Wikimedia France’s members have requested that several topics be added and voted upon at he next general assembly to be held in september in order to reflect on the current governance issues. The board has just confirmed that the minimum of members requested

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

2017-08-08 Thread Gabriel Thullen
Thank you Natacha for the update on the French situation. What would really make me happy this week would be to witness a goodwill or wikilove gesture by the French board: let the members who were recently expelled join up again so that we can hold some meaningful discussions. Gabe Le 8 août 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-08 Thread John Erling Blad
Policy should not have local variations, unless you want to create something different from Wikipedia. This is about core content policies. Those are no original research, verifiability, and neutral point of view. The one most don't follow is neutral point of view, where projects rewrite world

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chief Product Officer search and job description

2017-08-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Joady, Does the title "Chief Product Officer" mean that WMF intends to revert the name of the Audiences department back to the Product department? "On time and budget" is a goal that can be very difficult to achieve with complex engineering projects that often encounter surprises. WMF has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chief Product Officer search and job description

2017-08-08 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Pine, If you allow yourself to think that on time and on budget are optional, then you will certainly not get them. I would expect the WMF to aspire to deliver products that are fit for purpose, on time and on budget. I would also expect the staff and, especially, management to be held

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-08 Thread Strainu
2017-08-08 12:20 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad : > Policy should not have local variations, unless you want to create > something different from Wikipedia. Each version of Wikipedia is a different encyclopedia. There are vastly different inclusion policies and general policies

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chief Product Officer search and job description

2017-08-08 Thread Pine W
One would certainly aspire to be on time and on budget, but the reality of complex engineering projects is that surprises happen. Developing a new product isn't like building products on an assembly line where time and cost are relatively easy to predict. I think that looking for managers who are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia 2030: Sharing the draft strategic direction / (#24!)

2017-08-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Katherine, Thanks for sharing the draft. It looks like there's an attempt to create a grand vision in that document. I feel that the document should be simplified and shortened. I'm concerned about scope creep. It looks to me like the scope of the vision is so sweeping that WMF is moving in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-08 Thread Jean-Philippe Béland
Verifiability can be very different. For example oral sources. JP On Tue, Aug 8, 2017, 05:20 John Erling Blad, wrote: > Policy should not have local variations, unless you want to create > something different from Wikipedia. This is about core content policies. > Those are no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-08 Thread James Heilman
IMO we need to work on the issue of undisclosed paid editing from a number of different sides: 1) We need to get the word out to the wider world that paying someone to write your Wikipedia article is inappropriate. We also need to publicly state which companies have been banned / blocked from

[Wikimedia-l] How to watch and follow Wikimania 2017 remotely

2017-08-08 Thread Melody Kramer
Hello! As many of you know, Wikimania 2017 will take place in Montréal, Canada from 9–13 August. If you cannot attend this year, there are still opportunities to follow along remotely. Keynote sessions will be livestreamed [1] and recorded throughout the conference on YouTube [2] and Facebook

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to watch and follow Wikimania 2017 remotely

2017-08-08 Thread Denise Jansen
Great, thanks for the info! Denise Jansen Projectleider Wikimedia Nederland tel. 06 2952 0069 (ma, di, do) *Postadres*: * Bezoekadres:* Postbus 167Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht