Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

Saluton Samuel kaj ĉiuj, Le 23/11/2017 à 22:39, Samuel Klein a écrit : On Nov 23, 2017 2:55 PM, "Emeric Vallespi" wrote: the Wikimedia community protect itself and its members by harassing and defaming people who question Please don't turn it to a inaccurate "us

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all Wikimedia projects set up by Alec Muffett

Excellent! Still, as I argued before, I believe that a solution we could use is defaulting to Tor channeling in our mobile app. Facebook offers it as an option in partnership with Orbot - I believe we should do the same, but default to it (so that people cannot be held responsible for making a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] non-technical community wish: Invitational essay authorship contest

Hi Mathieu, I was heartened to read your questions and conclusions: > If you take that into consideration, how might you even begin to consider > that there are any consensual ordering possible? ... > you can not provide a well-order[ing.] Referring to why I want to offer eligibility in the

[Wikimedia-l] Legal status of Wikimeida lists [Was: Re: The other side of the crisis at WMFR]

Saluton ĉiuj, Le 23/11/2017 à 20:54, Emeric Vallespi a écrit : I think it was important to re-explain all those points so that the community, which is - again - unnecessarily taken as witness, is not deceived by a scenario built from scratch. Again, to discredit the movement by such erroneous

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all Wikimedia projects set up by Alec Muffett

Seconded -- this is an excellent use of Orbot. Worth testing that experience to see if it could be a comfortable default. On Nov 24, 2017 3:36 AM, "Dariusz Jemielniak" wrote: > Excellent! Still, as I argued before, I believe that a solution we could > use is defaulting to Tor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all Wikimedia projects set up by Alec Muffett

Well, what we could do just as well is trying to load normally, but when it fails immediately load through Orbot. The delays should be minimal most of the time, and the crucial part is that a) users don't have to do anything, install other apps, change the settings - it just works, b) users won't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Legal status of Wikimeida lists [Was: Re: The other side of the crisis at WMFR]

Archives are public, so, IMHO, the list is. Vito 2017-11-24 11:11 GMT+01:00 mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org>: > Saluton ĉiuj, > > Le 23/11/2017 à 20:54, Emeric Vallespi a écrit : > >> I think it was important to re-explain all those points so that the >> community, which is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all

Great to hear! I have one caveat with it though - if I understand it correctly, it is currently in a man-in-the-middle position between the visitor and WMF, as it provides its own self-signed https certificate and performs various URL rewriting on the traffic to change the URLs to the onion

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Legal status of Wikimeida lists [Was: Re: The other side of the crisis at WMFR]

mathieu stumpf guntz wrote: >> I think it was important to re-explain all those points so >> that the community, which is - again - unnecessarily taken >> as witness, is not deceived by a scenario built from >> scratch. >> Again, to discredit the movement by such

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all Wikimedia projects set up by Alec Muffett

I think this is unlikely to happen, because of the performance degradation (access via Tor will always be slower, which user studies have shown to be a significant usability issue in the past). But as an option or fallback or separate app it might be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all Wikimedia projects set up by Alec Muffett

Then, if it's not a too big maintance burden, what about proposing both solution? Our users already pay extremely huge loading time for some feature like visual editing, but the far faster wikitext editor is still there for those who are happier with that. Le 24/11/2017 à 19:37, Tilman