Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
Fine! If people refuse the easy way out, then create an Rfc, and start the process to make creation of new user accounts non-public information. Den fre. 26. jan. 2018, 03.04 skrev Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>: > you are not "exposing the user

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
you are not "exposing the user unknowingly visiting the site" with the bot itself...when you visit the site you are integrated in the SUL, it's public information since ages. The fact that a bot takes care of it or a human being leaves a message does not tell you a lot more. Sometimes on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
i think many people might not understand what is the real problem here with this aspect in the general framework. I might make a brutal simplification, of course. In any case, if you manage to make the moment when a logged-in user is connected to a platform for the first time a secret, that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-25 Thread Christophe Henner
I will only answer for our discussions during the board meeting. This goes two fold: * we have many teams, including in tech and product, that are understaffed. Without pointing at one specifically, I raised that at work I have team I can compare to the Foundation's one, on the very same topic,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-25 Thread Anders Wennersten
Many thanks, Tillman,  for your reply and also Christophes. Your analysis shows there are factors effecting pageviews that needs a qualified analysis to get to understand the numbers . I am also happy to see that there are clever people looking into this, and I was also  very glad to see, in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] New Affiliations Committee appointments

2018-01-25 Thread Sam Oyeyele
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] New Affiliations Committee appointments

2018-01-25 Thread Felix Nartey
Congratulations to all appointees! On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Sam Oyeyele wrote: > Congratulations to everyone who has been appointed. > > Sam. > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] New Affiliations Committee appointments

2018-01-25 Thread Sam Oyeyele
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread Pine W
Joe, I believe that the issue of a potential privacy violation was first raised on this list on December 30th, and I first emailed WMF Legal about this issue on January 1st. Keeping in mind that the issue involves potential privacy violations, I think that it's reasonable to think that this issue

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread Vi to
The information is so noisy (transclusions may trigger autocreation) and irrelevant (no information about pages, just wikis) I don't see an issue worth resolving. Vito 2018-01-25 22:54 GMT+01:00 Pine W : > Joe, > > I believe that the issue of a potential privacy violation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
I can't see that T42006 is relevant in this case. It is about abusive use of a bot, not about creation of the central account in itself. The existence of a central account leads to creation of the local account. This is probably acceptable. Then this may lead to the abusiv behavior, ie exposing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] New Affiliations Committee appointments

2018-01-25 Thread Nurunnaby Hasive
Congratulations to all! Hasive On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Katherine Maher wrote: > Congratulations to Sami, Derick, and Biplab on your new appointments, Emna > and Maor on your reappointments, and thank you Galileo for your many years > of service! > > On Wed, Jan