Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-05-28 Thread James Salsman
Hi Nadine, thank you for this update. Does the French Chapter have a position on replacing bitcoin mining with foldingcoin (http://foldingcoin.net)? I hope that all Wikimedians will oppose the wasteful consumption of electricity when useful alternatives exist. Best regards, Jim On Mon, May 28,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I am actually fully with Gnangarra here. I am also an unpaid volunteer who invested a lot of hours of my free time into various Wikimedia projects (and mostly getting a lot of shit in reward, but this is not the point now). I did have an experience of disagreements with people who were either paid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hey Yaroslav, thanks for sharing your view. I find very interesting what you mention, and if you have experienced yourself it must be a real effect on people. Five years ago, when I was awarded an IEG grant, I didn't feel the same effect on me. In fact it was quite the opposite, I felt under

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GDPR and Wikimedia content?

2018-05-28 Thread geni
On 27 May 2018 at 22:32, David Gerard wrote: > I'm a big fan of the GDPR and why it had to be created. (I'm doing a lot of > the bureaucratic work on the tech side at the day job and am getting very > used to thinking of ways something could constitute Personally Identifying > Information.) > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GDPR and Wikimedia content?

2018-05-28 Thread Todd Allen
I'm not even aware that we'd be subject to GPDR. We already allow removal of personal information in some cases (outing by others, accidentally revealing one's IP address, etc.). If we were going to allow it in any case that doesn't happen today, that would need to be agreed to by the community,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Category: French Jews on en.wp / GPDR

2018-05-28 Thread James Salsman
It's also important to point out that Wikidata can be used to semi-automatically replace the wikipedias' manual category trees: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Ontology https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Ontology/Classes It looks like some of the Wikidata

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread Pine W
Based on the limited information that I have, it seems to me that there are already numerous contribtors who are paid to engage in promotional activity on Wikipedia, whether declared or undeclared, and the community does not have adequate human resources to patrol and investigate all of these.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Category: French Jews on en.wp / GPDR

2018-05-28 Thread James Salsman
> categories and lists related to ethnicity, religious views, and sexual > orientation are often created and/or filled by POV pushers who usually do > not care much about sourcing. On top of this, the inclusion criteria, > especially for categories, are often not defined Absolutely correct,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread Gnangarra
I think thats a little disingenuous to say that we dont take care of our volunteers and that its a negative message to not give some financial reward to admins. We came here by choice, whether we are here for a long time or a short time we chose to add to the sum of all knowledge for myriad of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Gnangarra, you have been showing a lot of generosity towards the community and that is laudable. As you, over the years I have also spent countless hours in this community, and I do not regret it either, I feel it has been and it still is a good investment of my time, and my dedication. You, as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-05-28 Thread Nadine Le Lirzin
Hi all, Update on the topic. Since Request Network were so slow and reluctant to change their delusive communication into a fair and clean information, Wikimédia France broke the agreement with them. Thus, this partnership is over. We deleted our blog post about it. And we keep on trying to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
> My view is that the Foundation was suddenly (but not without warning) > made legally responsible for its own content after Trump made hosting > providers responsible for facilitating online prostitution > advertising, at pretty much the same time the GDPR went in to effect. I do not know enough