Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-30 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
I would urge anyone who is following this thread to read and contemplate the Arbcom open letter to the WMF, posted early on June 30th. Link:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Bans that cannot be appealed against are nothing new. A friend of mine has a lifetime ban and there are mitigating circumstances (imho). Having said that; for me a person who shuns Wikipedia as an editor for its negativity, this has been a long time coming and is very welcome. When people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia DC Statement on Terms of Use Enforcement

2019-06-30 Thread Lucas Teles
Thanks for the statement. I am pretty sure that everyone agrees with what is stated. However, the statement doesn't address the main and real issue. We have to identify the issue in order to take action against it. The said controversy doesn't have to do with preventing harassment - which is

[Wikimedia-l] Co sprawia, że jesteś szczęśliwy w tym tygodniu? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 30 June 2019)

2019-06-30 Thread Pine W
At the moment I am not particularly happy, but I am grateful. I feel that the English Wikiquote of the day for 30 June 2019 is appropriate to share for contemplation in the context of current tensions

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia DC Statement on Terms of Use Enforcement

2019-06-30 Thread Robert Fernandez
https://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Press:Statement_on_Terms_of_Use_enforcement June 30, 2019 Wikimedia District of Columbia is deeply concerned by recent events that have occurred on the English Wikipedia, including community controversy regarding a ban imposed by the Wikimedia Foundation. Protecting

[Wikimedia-l] On wiki versus off wiki - it may not be that simple

2019-06-30 Thread Stephen Philbrick
Please keep in mind the plausible scenario that one or more people contacted T & S, and asserted that editor X is extremely distressed about harassment arriving from on wiki edits. Fram can be literally telling the truth when they say that they are unaware of any off wiki commincations, while T Is

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost – Volume 15, Issue 6 – 30 June 2019

2019-06-30 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
Discussion report: A constitutional crisis hits English Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-06-30/Discussion_report News and notes: Mysterious ban, admin resignations, Wikimedia Thailand rising

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On wiki versus off wiki - it may not be that simple

2019-06-30 Thread Thyge
Den søn. 30. jun. 2019 kl. 18.48 skrev Todd Allen : > "Even if the answer is "Some of the conduct was off-wiki", > that tells us nothing about what it was or how WMF came to be aware of it." > I'm not so sure that is correct. Thyge Larsen (Sir48) ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On wiki versus off wiki - it may not be that simple

2019-06-30 Thread Todd Allen
Well, I think we're all well aware that not everything pertaining to the situation is on-wiki. There were clearly communications that were not, even if just those that took place during WMF's review procedure, the ones they've had with ArbCom, etc. The question that was asked, specifically, was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On wiki versus off wiki - it may not be that simple

2019-06-30 Thread Benjamin Ikuta
It would do a great deal to clear the air of speculation if they would at least confirm they're not accusing Fram of off wiki harassment. On Jun 30, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Stephen Philbrick wrote: > Please keep in mind the plausible scenario that one or more people > contacted T & S, and