Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Right. I guess a central notice about an RfC would be appropriate. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kiril Simeonovski < kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > It seems like there is a clear consensus to open an RfC on Meta about this, > so we can safely move forward

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Lucas Werkmeister
On 06.09.19 05:49, Zack McCune wrote: >3. > >Supporting sister projects I am extremely wary of this phrasing. Instead of a family of projects working together towards a shared goal, to me this invokes the image of a big, central Wikipedia who graciously supports the other, insignificant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Introducing WikiContrib 1.0!

2019-09-07 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:25 AM Rammanoj Potla wrote: > I am happy to introduce you to the first version of WikiContrib > . WikiContrib is a developer > metrics tool which can be used to view a developer’s contributions on > Phabricator and Gerrit. This

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Mario Gómez
Hello, On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:49 AM Zack McCune wrote: > > From more than 319 comments, representing 150 individual contributors and > 63 affiliates, we assessed 6 major themes in feedback: > > The benchmark is completely twisted to make opposition impossible: * Support and Opposition are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
By the way, the solution is really easy: The Wiki Foundation. 2019 ira. 7 1:39 PM erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Lucas Werkmeister ): On 06.09.19 05:49, Zack McCune wrote: >3. > >Supporting sister projects I am extremely wary of this phrasing. Instead of a family of projects working

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Mario Gómez
On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 11:58 AM Mario Gómez wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:49 AM Zack McCune wrote: > >> >> From more than 319 comments, representing 150 individual contributors and >> 63 affiliates, we assessed 6 major themes in feedback: >> >> > * Opposition percentage is set at 0.6% for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Strainu
Pe sâmbătă, 7 septembrie 2019, Adrian Raddatz a scris: > I think it's a fine idea. I know that nobody knows what "Wikimedia means", > and see value to moving at least the Foundation's name towards a more > recognizable brand. > > I also see valid points being raised from the community, such as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The right question here: how have you supported the sister projects in the past. The follow question: Branding is about getting attention for products. How will the sister projects benefit from more attention to Wikipedia? The point is we have not marketed the products from sister projects.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Pine W
I too think that an RfC is a good option here. I suggest having multiple questions in the RfC. Questions could include, "What should the organization that is currently known as the Wikimedia Foundation be named?", "Should there be a unifying brand for the online projects such as Wikipedia,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread effe iets anders
Now imagine trying to explain the difference between a chapter, the Foundation and the community when they have the same name... Lodewijk On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 1:41 PM Isaac Olatunde wrote: > We sometimes spend several minutes trying to explain to potentials partners > the difference between

[Wikimedia-l] Qu’est-ce qui vous rend heureux cette semaine? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 8 September 2019)

2019-09-07 Thread Pine W
*The English Wikipedia Teahouse* * The English Wikipedia Teahouse recently surpassed 1000 pages of archives. The Teahouse seems to be very successful. *Pictures of the day from various wikis, with descriptions in English* * French Wikipedia:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Kiril Simeonovski
Hi all, It seems like there is a clear consensus to open an RfC on Meta about this, so we can safely move forward with it and close this thread. Otherwise, we will most likely keep up boggling our minds with the 20-per-cent metric and endlessly discuss how unfortunate is this for the global

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Dan Szymborski
Given the typical response rate for polling is extremely low, even among groups of people who agreed to be polled, the 20% metric is absurd. If you put out some random notice among a million other emails to 9,000 people on various lists submitting a proposition to change the name to Fart Factory

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Ferdinando Traversa
I’m against and sincerly I don’t trust this datas (80% agrees? Are you kidding me? I’ve seen the meta discussion). I think a Meta CLEAR VOTE as suggested here is the best way. Imposing a change like this is a wrong decision. Regards. > Il giorno 6 set 2019, alle ore 05:49, Zack McCune ha >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread David Gerard
On all wikis? On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 19:19, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > Right. > > I guess a central notice about an RfC would be appropriate. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kiril Simeonovski < > kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > It seems like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Kiril Simeonovski
HI David, Yes, it stands to reason to announce on all wikis in a similar way as the announcements about board or steward elections. Best, Kiril On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:46 PM David Gerard wrote: > On all wikis? > > On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 19:19, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > > Right. > > > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread David Gerard
I concur, it sounds sensible. (I'll note, I'm not actually against the name change proposal - but it's got to be presented to the community properly.) On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 20:50, Kiril Simeonovski wrote: > > HI David, > > Yes, it stands to reason to announce on all wikis in a similar way as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Todd Allen
Yes, let's see an actually public RfC on this. We shouldn't have to argue about what the support/oppose proportions are, we should see it right there on an on-wiki page where anyone is free to review them. Todd On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:06 PM David Gerard wrote: > I concur, it sounds sensible.

[Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia site and system outages

2019-09-07 Thread Heather Walls
Hello everyone, By now you are likely aware that the Wikimedia sites suffered from a relatively significant botnet driven DDOS attack on September 6th, taking them offline in several countries throughout the day. This primarily affected Wikipedia access in Europe and the Middle East. We posted a