Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-10 Thread Chris Keating
I understand it represents some money to fly ~10 people to SF (though I guess in the end those meetings would match other global meetings such as Wikimedia Conference or Wikimania) every six month, but on the other hand the FDC is gonna be in charge of disseminating ~30million USD, some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-10 Thread Andrew Gray
On 10 April 2012 13:09, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I've asked a very simple question, could you answer it? What questions do you want this process to answer? What it is about the FDC that we don't yet know and need to devote a lot of time and money to working out? The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-10 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 10 April 2012 13:56, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org wrote: Sure just about everything as in 1) Who should be on this committee 2) On what kind of requests should they form an opinion (not microgrants for example) 3) What are criteria 4) What is the process/timeline +

[Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with the Localisation team 2012-04-18 16:30 UTC

2012-04-10 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
Hi everyone, I just wanted to give advance notice about IRC office hours with the Localization team [1] at the Wikimedia Foundation. Date: 2012-04-18 (every third Wednesday of the month from now on) Time: 16.30 UTC Venue: #wikimedia-office As usual, more logistical info and time conversion

[Wikimedia-l] Sister Projects Committee

2012-04-10 Thread Thehelpfulone
Hi all, The Sister Projects Committee is now a more formal committee, and as such, there's a list of things to do at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sister_Projects_Committee#Task_list. The plan is to discuss all the topics on the talk page and this mailing list when we are looking for wider

[Wikimedia-l] BBC Open Content

2012-04-10 Thread Richard Symonds
Looks like the BBC are now starting to use goodly amounts of open content. One that's caught my eye is a piece on the seige of Sarajevo, part of which is CC-BY-SA licenced, at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17617775. Richard Symonds Office Development Manager Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207

Re: [Wikimedia-l] BBC Open Content

2012-04-10 Thread Richard Symonds
Correct: Derivatives are allowed Richard Symonds Office Development Manager Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0992 -- Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a Charitable Company Registered in England and Wales, No: 6741827. Charity No:1144513 Office: 4th Floor, Development House,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] BBC Open Content

2012-04-10 Thread Richard Symonds
There's also a no promotion clause - you can't use the work to promote your organisation. This is above and beyond the normal 'no derogatory use' clause... Richard Symonds Office Development Manager Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0992 -- Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] BBC Open Content

2012-04-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 April 2012 17:30, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: There's also a no promotion clause - you can't use the work to promote your organisation. This is above and beyond the normal 'no derogatory use' clause... This sounds like a licence that deserves to die a death.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-10 Thread Barry Newstead
Hi - I have created a list of issues to resolve in the FDC process on meta.[1] There are probably additional issues to resolve and it would be great if people would edit the list and start suggesting solutions. IMHO the list of issues is substantial and decisions on the approach to the design

Re: [Wikimedia-l] BBC Open Content

2012-04-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 April 2012 18:12, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote: Well, actually we don't know it works for us. Our stuff is in early draft, and re-use of text is already making life pretty difficult already (checking for copyvios, notability, and clones in repressive regimes (Baidu

[Wikimedia-l] World Bank adopts CC licensing

2012-04-10 Thread aude
FYI: The World Bank is adopting CC-BY licensing for it publications and content. http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,contentMDK:23164491~pagePK:34370~piPK:34424~theSitePK:4607,00.html https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/terms-of-use Cheers, Katie -- Board member, Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata opinion piece in The Atlantic

2012-04-10 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I would like to second that recommendation. I read that article too, and thought it highly relevant. Information is power, and there is a real danger of both monopolisation and manipulation of information here. Andreas On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:46 AM, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 97, Issue 32

2012-04-10 Thread Craig Franklin
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:27:25 -0600 From: James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide Message-ID: caf1en7ubs8eabne-3l_mzxwc8tcwq3o5sblwmcvho3fyixr...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes

[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-11 Thread James Heilman
@ MZMcBride I just assumed that most would see travel content as educational in nature but have added this clarification to the proposal in in question. If most accept that travel is educational in nature, resources that help with travel would thus be educational resources and within the scope of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia mobile application development

2012-04-11 Thread MZMcBride
Thank you very much for the detailed and insightful reply. Tomasz Finc wrote: On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Mobile seems to have two branches these days: (1) the mobile versions of the sites; and more recently (2) specific mobile applications. Branch 1 is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-11 Thread emijrp
2012/4/11 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com I agree that travel content is within the scope. In addition to the content itself, which helps other people, the process of writing and communicating travel information is educational for the writer. There was a session about WikiTravel on at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] www.wikimedia.org (Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process)

2012-04-11 Thread Fajro
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: I've put some initial brainstorming notes about how this could be done here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia.org Nice. We'll add this to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:30:45 -0600, James Heilman wrote: @Yaroslov 1) A merger within a WMF project is supported by admins from both WT and WV. WV is going to be meeting on the possibility of merging June 9th in Germany 2) Wikimedia's mission is to provide freely available educational

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
First, NPOV would probably be a deal-breaker. The travel wiki community (usually working at Wikitravel) have long used Traveller's Point of View. This point of view is not neutral at all, but favours the traveller. Hoteliers, restaurateurs, etc. have different points of view, but for us it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:41, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.comwrote: What I think would be important to avoid is too much subjective information from one individual; for example, where I to write about York, UK I would recommend not going to the Jorvik centre (a main attraction)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
We've mainly approached this issue encouraging the different groups of travellers to add relevant content for their areas. We specifically try to mix it all in, because we don't want to section anyone off. There was considerable controversy back in 2005 or so about adding an LBGT section to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
What I think would be important to avoid is too much subjective information from one individual; for example, where I to write about York, UK I would recommend not going to the Jorvik centre (a main attraction) because I thought it overpriced and boring. Whilst my viewpoint on this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
Just to highlight my earlier point about sourcing, the article on Florence currently says: Opera was invented in Florence. This happens to be true - but I have no proof of it, and it may well simply be the opinion of the original writer. Much of the rest of the historical section is the same;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Casey Brown
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Mark Jaroski mark.jaro...@gmail.com wrote: We're under the impression that there are other Wikimedia foundation projects which don't use NPOV, and so those of us favouring approaching WMF have been able to argue that we wouldn't be forced to use it. If that's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 10 April 2012 17:51, Barry Newstead bnewst...@wikimedia.org wrote: If we simply select an FDC (btw - how would this happen?) and ask them to figure out the issues for themselves, this would be a recipe for serious challenges that could doom the FDC from the start. A relatively brief, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Myself, I have a presentation which shows a basic wiki principle; I noticed that showing the same thing onwiki would make me jumping too much from page to page. Showing Wikipedia functionalities then onwiki I call Wikipedia surfing (version history, talk pages etc.). If it is a workshop

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Community Fellow Peter Coombe

2012-04-12 Thread James Forrester
On Thursday, April 12, 2012, Siko Bouterse wrote: It is my pleasure to introduce our newest Wikimedia Community Fellow of 2012, Peter Coombe. As a fellow, Pete will be working with the community to improve help documentation on English Wikipedia. He’ll be leading a 6 month effort and taking a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Heather Ford
Thanks, Ziko. That's really interesting and sounds like an effective way of getting them started. I'm curious what kinds of problems people contact you about when they start editing for real? On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, Myself, I have a presentation which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Tom Morris
On 12 April 2012 21:24, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: With respect to audience, on Wikipedia we write for a general audience yet our medical content is still used by 50-70% of practicing physicians. Lonely planet lists hotels in different section based on price. On Wikipedia we use

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Community Fellow Peter Coombe

2012-04-12 Thread Siko Bouterse
It is my pleasure to introduce our newest Wikimedia Community Fellow of 2012, Peter Coombe. As a fellow, Pete will be working with the community to improve help documentation on English Wikipedia. He’ll be leading a 6 month effort and taking a data-driven approach to reorganize and rewrite key

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Chris Keating
Have a quick question for some work I'm doing on Wikipedia literacy: What resources are folks using to teach others how to edit Wikipedia? At Wikipedia Academies etc? Have a look at the Outreach Bookshelf: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf Welcome to Wikipedia is well-used by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Oxford University, Vatican libraries to digitize works

2012-04-14 Thread Mike Dupont
Trying to Search the index http://www.vatican.va/library_archives/vat_library/index.htm give a dead link http://bav.vatican.va/en/v_home_bav/home_bav.shtml the index of the secret (not really secret http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Secret_Archives)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Community Fellow Peter Coombe

2012-04-14 Thread Kul Wadhwa
This is a HUGE need. Awesome! Great to have you tackling this. Good luck, Peter! --Kul On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.org wrote: It is my pleasure to introduce our newest Wikimedia Community Fellow of 2012, Peter Coombe. As a fellow, Pete will be working

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-15 Thread Nitika Tandon
Some tips, best practices and documents available here as well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Outreach_Programs/Handbook Thanks Nitika On 13-Apr-2012, at 4:04 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Oh my god, I think I'll recommend the Germans to create a work group to have a close look at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-16 Thread Patricio Molina
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Heather Ford hf...@ushahidi.com wrote: What resources are folks using to teach others how to edit Wikipedia? In Wikimedia Argentina we've created Wikipedia en el aula[0] for our workshops and talks. It was specifically oriented to teachers and students, showing

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 16 -- 16 April 2012

2012-04-16 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
Arbitration analysis: Inside the Arbitration Committee Mailing List http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-16/Arbitration_analysis Paid editing: Does Wikipedia Pay? The Facilitator: Silver seren

[Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the squash internet freedom battle.

2012-04-16 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be Yet Another Attempt to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of IP legislation by inserting it as a rider to law supposedly intended to help in combatting Cyber-terrorism: CISPA. From the link below:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the squash internet freedom battle.

2012-04-16 Thread Mono
Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing... On Monday, April 16, 2012, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be Yet Another Attempt to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of IP legislation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

2012-04-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:44:48 +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: Whether they also want to socialise with other editors is somewhat a secondary consideration/distraction. I disagree. A lot. Of course that is your prerogative. But I think in holding that view you've critically lost sight of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

2012-04-17 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: But perhaps it would be useful to suggest some specific social features that you'd want - that might help focus the discussion. I'm not sure that it makes sense to talk about adding social features in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia

2012-04-18 Thread Marc Riddell
on 4/18/12 4:53 AM, Mike Dupont at jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: this just in, scary. Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia http://www.businessinsider.com/norwegian-terrorist-anders-breivik-my-biggest - i nfluence-was-wikipedia-2012-4#ixzz1sN3LZci6 On 18 April 2012

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia

2012-04-18 Thread Fae
I find this context upsetting regardless of the points being raised. My personal request for any reader of this email thread, is that if there are any changes you would like to see on Wikipedia or other Wikimedia projects, please don't use anything that this monster says as a reason for action.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Dupont
Yes, I also found it upsetting, but I decided to bring this topic up as someone had sent it to me, and thought that it is better that we know about what is going on before it hits us and we dont know about it. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: I find this context

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter software tools work welcome at Berlin hackathon in June

2012-04-18 Thread Peter Gehres
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Oddly enough, I have a CiviCRM developer coming around today to talk about WMUK funding a Gift Aid or Direct Debit module. He's based only a few minutes from our office. There is currently a Make It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User retention statistics?

2012-04-18 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Yaroslav - You'll probably find background for some of this on the strategy wiki - that's the community health group that you're thinking about. :-) This is a survey in particular that might interest you: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Task_force/Community_Health/Former_contributors_survey

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User retention statistics?

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Rohde
PS. This story was triggered by Fastily's retirement. He has 46000 edits on enwiki, and only about 620 editors have reached that plateau. Of these, 90% are still active. So such retirements are relatively rare. Personally, I hope he decides to come back after taking some time to relax and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia events: staging area?

2012-04-19 Thread Sage Ross
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi all, With all the Wikimedia events it is a problem that keeps coming back: whether participants do or do not want to be photographed. Often we get to a very crude binary result: either everything is allowed, or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia events: staging area?

2012-04-19 Thread Kevin Gorman
If we don't want to develop an internal solution, it would be pretty simple to set up a private flickr album and email it out to all attendees for feedback. Kevin Gorman user:kgorman-ucb On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: However this is done, it could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia events: staging area?

2012-04-19 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
If we can't manage to set this up on-project because of rules, we collectively fail Wiki 101 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote: If we don't want to develop an internal solution, it would be pretty simple to set up a private flickr album and email it out to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising Banner?

2012-04-19 Thread Michael Peel
It's probably a regional test; see the bottom-most announcement at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012 Mike On 19 Apr 2012, at 20:14, Richard Symonds wrote: I believe there's periodic fundraising tests scheduled throughout the year. Which country were you viewing WP from, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising Banner?

2012-04-19 Thread Joshua Van Davier
Hi Abbas, I'm glad Richard, Theo, and Michael were able to jump in and provide you with this information. As mentioned, the fundraising team is currently running a short test in a few countries to increase efficiency and improve our donor experience. They will all be very short (a week or less)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] There's a wikipedia dress now! ;-)

2012-04-20 Thread Strainu
În data de 19 aprilie 2012, 19:12, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru a scris: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:35:22 +0200, Kim Bruning wrote: See        http://imgur.com/gallery/v7RRz I wonder if someone could make and wear that for real? (Also, we need wikipe-tan in that dress, of course!) An

Re: [Wikimedia-l] There's a wikipedia dress now! ;-)

2012-04-20 Thread Svip
On 19 April 2012 17:35, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: See        http://imgur.com/gallery/v7RRz I wonder if someone could make and wear that for real? (Also, we need wikipe-tan in that dress, of course!) Credit, where credit is due, here is the artist:

[Wikimedia-l] Update on the CISPA drafting process, and its significance to the Wikimedia movement.

2012-04-20 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
There have been drastic changes to the CISPA language, (and here drastic is an understatement). Not only have they removed the language that would have made Wikimedia look like right prat -- hooray...ish -- but the emphasis on the agreement between large scale traffic sites giving their

[Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee: Your thoughts welcome

2012-04-20 Thread Chary, Meera
Hello! As many of you may know, the Wikimedia Foundation is working with The Bridgespan Group to develop a process for allocating movement funds to programs and other projects. As a part of this, the Board of Trustees resolved to create a Funds Dissemination Committee to make recommendations

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: European Mathematical Society and Springer create Encyclopedia of Mathematics wiki...

2012-04-20 Thread phoebe ayers
Springer in cooperation with the European Mathematical Society creates Encyclopedia of Mathematics wiki: http://www.encyclopediaofmath.org/index.php/Main_Page Invitation to contribute: http://www.euro-math-soc.eu/node/2671 Notice that it is seeded with 8,000 entries from the Kluwer-published

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: European Mathematical Society and Springer create Encyclopedia of Mathematics wiki...

2012-04-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 April 2012 18:10, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Notice that it is seeded with 8,000 entries from the Kluwer-published Encyclopaedia of Mathematics; these articles remain under copyright to Springer/Kluwer. However, new contributions and edits will be licensed cc-by-sa. Seems

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: March 2012 report

2012-04-20 Thread Michael Jahn
cross-posting -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Von: Michael Jahn michael.j...@wikimedia.de Datum: 20. April 2012 22:01 Betreff: Wikimedia Deutschland: March 2012 report An: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear all, please find Wikimedia Deutschland's monthly report for

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Deutschland: March 2012 report

2012-04-20 Thread Michael Jahn
Dear all, please find Wikimedia Deutschland's monthly report for March 2012 on Meta[1]. If you don't check it out, you may never get to know why political parties in one of Germany's federal states just can't avoid to answer WMDE's questions these days or which kinds of German newspapers covered

[Wikimedia-l] Board Meeting Live from Monmouth

2012-04-21 Thread Richard Symonds
All, We'll be webcasting the interesting bits of today's Monmouth WMUK Board Meeting. You can watch by going to http://monmouthpedia.wordpress.com/webcast/. All the best, Richard Symonds Office Development Manager Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 07885 764 613 Wikimedia UK is the operating name of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

2012-04-21 Thread Mono
Tom, has a reputable news source actually verified this? Even Wikipedia editors know that HuffPost isn't reliable... On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: On 16 April 2012 18:41, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, how do we want to work on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User retention statistics?

2012-04-22 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Thank you all for the replies, I need some time to process this information. Cheers Yaroslav 1. What is the average lifetime of a Wikipedia editor (for instance the one with at leat 1000 contributions)? I recollect smth about two years, but I am pretty sure I have never seen any research on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-22 Thread Etienne Beaule
Still, a vote for new members should of been done. Ebe123 On 12-04-22 4:29 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I suspect it's because they're doing a good job in the WMFs opinion, at least, that's how I read it in Philippe's email... Richard On Apr 22, 2012 4:11

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-22 Thread Risker
Without commenting on the quality of the work of the Ombudsmen, I'll just point out that there has never been a vote for this position. Risker/Anne On 22 April 2012 15:43, Etienne Beaule betie...@bellaliant.net wrote: Still, a vote for new members should of been done. Ebe123 On 12-04-22

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-22 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Anne, it was however common procedure to ask publicly for applications before making a decision on who are the best candidates. Maybe they are the best there are - maybe not, we'll never know. As an unrelated sidenote, I still hope the committee will public an annual report of her activities

[Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hours

2012-04-23 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hi everyone! I will be holding the next round of Wikidata office hours next week. You're all invited to ask questions and discuss. If you can't attend there will be logs. * 30. April, English, 12:00 UTC (see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Thomas Goldammer
* How many cases were brought to your attention? around 30, give or take * How many of those did you consider serious enough to warrant investigation beyond direct dismissal? around 10, I'd say * How many cases did you take on *proactively* (without a solid complaint)? none that I would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Philippe Beaudette
That's not a formal complaint. That's an email to wikimedia-l. For a formal complaint, I'd request documentation of the dates presented, etc. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Mon,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: On my behalve a letter has been send to the foundation and the same letter has ben send by fax. How formal do you wish to get it? Nor I or the person that sended this communication on my behalf got a responds about the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Thomas Goldammer
2012/4/23 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Transparency and privacy are not mutually exclusive. Obviously, the actual content of complaints is usually going to be confidential, but that doesn't preclude the process being transparent. That's why I answered to Lodewijk's questions. I guess

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Craig Franklin
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:02:29 +0200 From: Thomas Goldammer tho...@googlemail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission Message-ID: CAL0e-KVCetcaaKNQuiSwX5ckBnxqw=9_6vhkdj988ypz3wd...@mail.gmail.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 23 Apr 2012, at 13:02, Thomas Goldammer tho...@googlemail.com wrote: You can clearly document the process that you follow. You can publish metrics like those Lodewijk suggested (and actual numbers, not just guesses). It would be nice to have a page on meta that says how many cases are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Thomas Goldammer
It was not meant passive-aggressive. ;) I know that his suggestion is a good one and I wanted to push him to just do it on Meta. Sorry if you misunderstood that. ^^ Th. I thought Thomas's requests and suggestions in this case were quite valid and reasonable, and they did not deserve such a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Thomas Goldammer
2012/4/23 Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com: Touché. I believe that if the process is going to be put on Meta we do need actual numbers as opposed to your guesstimations. Hopefully this shouldn't be too difficult to sort out, if you do some searches on Gmail for all the emails that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Christie
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: I thought Thomas's requests and suggestions in this case were quite valid and reasonable, and they did not deserve such a condescending and passive-aggressive response. I'm sure you're all very busy but that's no excuse

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Thomas Goldammer
Ok, for the number fans, I did a filter search on my email archive and I found 660 emails archived that were sent to the OC email address since we were appointed (I don't think I deleted any, so this should probably be it). This includes emails sent from within the committee as well as those sent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Thomas Goldammer
2012/4/23 Mike Christie coldchr...@gmail.com: This might be a digression, but I'm fairly new to this list and would like a clarification.  What's the decision-making process within the WMF on issues such as this (a request from the community to document a WMF process)?  I understand how

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Thomas Goldammer
Please have a look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission#Processing.2FReporting I hope this is sort of satisfying for now? I will not do that for the 2011 term. Already this one cost me more than two hours and it is only from 1st of February to now. :) If you do the maths you end

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

2012-04-23 Thread Captain Harlock
hi, Please do thank the journalist concerned. I agree with the line of reasoning.But I sway away from one of his conclusions. So I think the answer is that Wikipedia needs to be more social. It needs a different kind of moderation. And it needs more mechanisms for positive feedback.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Risker
On 23 April 2012 12:41, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com: Top posting. This is getting a bit ridiculous. Frankly, while I see the need for *some* statistics, I don't see how the number of emails exchanged is in any kind of way

[Wikimedia-l] FDC Advisory Group selection complete

2012-04-23 Thread Barry Newstead (WMF)
Hi - Per earlier communications, we have selected the Advisory Group to support the design process for the Funds Dissemination Committee in accordance with the formation process we laid out on Meta.[1] The FDC Advisory Group role and the names of the members can be found on Meta.[2] Thanks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons

2012-04-24 Thread emijrp
2012/4/24 Andrew Cates andrew.ca...@soschildren.org Um. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Video appear to all be images relevant to the topic of videos. Not themselves videos. Sorry, a missing S, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos Owner? Not personally but I am

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedians in Other Languages Needed

2012-04-24 Thread James Heilman
Hello All The project we have been working on to develop medical content and translate it into other languages is going well. We have an initial set of 13 top importance GAs ready for translation by Translators Without Borders. Article should begin arriving in a couple of weeks.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

2012-04-24 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 18:41, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, how do we want to work on editor retention if we lack social features at all??? These go in the right direction: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Improving_our_platform

[Wikimedia-l] Doctors use, but don’t rely totally on, Wikipedia

2012-04-24 Thread Richard Symonds
All, We think you might find our latest blog post interesting. It's about research in which an online survey of medical staff at two large hospital trusts in England was conducted. Nearly all the 109 responses included free-text comments. Unsurprisingly, the respondents - all medical

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-24 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 24 April 2012 01:00, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: Queues are normally setup so that the OTRS admins can see all tickets. This makes things easier when checking for errors, making sure there are no backlogs, cleaning up cross-queue spam, etc. However, there are definitely some

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0

2012-04-24 Thread Samuel Klein
This is big news -- though still only part of Harvard's full collection of records. Following the British Library's release of 3M bib records under CC0 18 months ago: http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k77982pageid=icb.page498373 David Weinberger writes: This is the largest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0

2012-04-24 Thread emijrp
Very good news for Open Library, and for us too. 2012/4/24 Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org This is big news -- though still only part of Harvard's full collection of records. Following the British Library's release of 3M bib records under CC0 18 months ago:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons

2012-04-24 Thread Samuel Klein
Where's the latest thread on the Timed Media Handler progress? I am meeting with MIT Open CourseWare tomorrow - they want to expand the set of videos they released last year under CC-SA, starting with categories / vids that would be fill gaps on Wikipedia. Any thoughts on how to make that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-24 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: You would be able to easily keep track of what tickets have been answered, but as far as I am aware the OTRS admins are technically able

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons (Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 97, Issue 73)

2012-04-24 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap indicates that we aim to have TimedMediaHandler deployed onto Wikimedia Foundation sites by the end of May 2012. TimedMediaHandler has been reviewed by Ian Baker and Kandalgaonkar extensively, with lots of changes made in response by Michael Dale. Review

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-24 Thread Rjd0060
There is no such log within the OTRS software. Admin actions are logged by the OTRS admins on the OTRS wiki. Yes, these are manual edits. There has never (that I know of) been an issue with the OTRS admins accessing queues they shouldn't. While of course it is possible for them to, as others

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-24 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:06 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: Is there an auditable log of these actions?  i.e. one that OTRS admins cant doctor? -- John Vandenberg

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons (Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 97, Issue 73)

2012-04-24 Thread Michael Dale
Thanks Sumana! :) --michael On 04/24/2012 09:10 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap indicates that we aim to have TimedMediaHandler deployed onto Wikimedia Foundation sites by the end of May 2012. TimedMediaHandler has been reviewed by Ian Baker and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons

2012-04-25 Thread emijrp
2012/4/24 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Where's the latest thread on the Timed Media Handler progress? I am meeting with MIT Open CourseWare tomorrow - they want to expand the set of videos they released last year under CC-SA, starting with categories / vids that would be fill gaps on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard University: Drop paywalled journals, publish open access

2012-04-25 Thread emijrp
2012/4/24 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Tangential, but highly relevant to the goal of free content: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/apr/24/harvard-university-journal-publishers-prices Exasperated by rising subscription costs charged by academic publishers, Harvard University has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Haitham Shamma and the Editor Growth and Contribution Program

2012-04-25 Thread Bod Notbod
Welcome Haitham! Just for a bit of clarification, the post says: Haitham is joining the Wikimedia Foundation in order to support new editor growth on small-to-medium sized Wikimedia projects, And then... Haitham will be beginning his work with the Arabic Wikipedia community, and based on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-25 Thread Huib Laurens
Phillipe, We are now to day's futher. Still no responds from you on or off list, or any responds at all from the foundation. best, Huib On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 03:52, Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com wrote: It really

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0

2012-04-25 Thread Mateus Nobre
Add ALL at Wikisource! On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Very good news for Open Library, and for us too. 2012/4/24 Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org This is big news -- though still only part of Harvard's full collection of records. Following the British

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