Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gathering User Inputs for WikiCV Project

2017-12-17 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I'd like to put a picture of me on such CV but even if this is voluntary that's usually the point when 4 or 5 users (mostly old-timers) write something like "we are not facebook" (or similar) and say they agree with themselves. I wish I could do it myself, repeating standardized sentences as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

2018-05-07 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Hi, I usually push diversity in any situation but only after I got a core quality group of volunteer. the first degree of diversity is the diversity based on wiki activity, IMHO.. I care about the rest and I try to be honest if I go in that direction and why I do that. If anyone is offended for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2017-12-30 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
What are the good reason to be poaranoid? The only reason I ever heard is "is making me waste time", usually expressed wasting more time. BTW, after years of SUL most of the old time users have received a lot of welcome messages and they receive usually two new ones per year, no more in my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
you are not "exposing the user unknowingly visiting the site" with the bot itself...when you visit the site you are integrated in the SUL, it's public information since ages. The fact that a bot takes care of it or a human being leaves a message does not tell you a lot more. Sometimes on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
reate an Rfc, and start the process to make creation of new user accounts non-public information. Den fre. 26. jan. 2018, 03.04 skrev Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>: you are not "exposing the user unknowingly visiting the site" with the bot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Starting School Activity: Possible Support and Tips

2018-02-22 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Do you need some contacts of local expert wikimedians too? It's a mail from Singapore, right? I can show you how to contact them on their user talk pages if you are a total newbie. Some of them you can find listed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Singapore

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2017-12-29 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Some reactions to welcome bot or welcomes are a little bit "exaggerated" sometimes. it's just a small red color spot in a corner. Two seconds to process it, more time to complain about it. I study user activities and sometimes I leave welcome messages here and there. 99.5% of the time is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Curating YOUR Wikipedia

2018-07-15 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
yes, it is an old issue, what you say it's right but I would be more optimistic. To summarize my view (I couls send you more information privately) 1. Wikidata largely reflected what Wikipedia indicated, and that was not the right way to make it grow, but that was also the past. At the moment,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Curating YOUR Wikipedia

2018-07-16 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
pedias- collide.html[2] https://ultimategerardm. blogspot.com/2018/07/ africagap-support-for- minority-languages.html[3] https://ultimategerardm. blogspot.com/2016/01/ wikipedia-lowest-hanging- fruit-from.html On 16 July 2018 at 05:41, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote: yes, it i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-23 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
There are a lot of SUL issues that are waiting to be addressed. One for example is the definition of what is not "appropriate" as a name. Another one is a centralized interface for preferences, a third one is a centralized management of key user information, a forth one is the possibility to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Stewards elected

2018-02-28 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Compared to the low point of 2016, it is glad that for another year we had enough elected candidates.  Five is a good number. Il Giovedì 1 Marzo 2018 1:36, Md. Ibrahim Husain ha scritto: Congrats to the new stewards. On Thursday, March 1, 2018, Mardetanha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
ts risks, its undesirables, and crime, just getting a taxi to and from the airport is a risk reality is its also more likely than a terrorist event On 6 April 2018 at 03:24, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: That's why people offwiki say they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I remember we discussed 2 or 3 years about this scenario with some wikimedians off wiki. I strongly support to discuss at least once openly about that. In a way that it's rational, avoiding to create unnecessary panic... of course. Despite the claimed neutrality of the communities, reality

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

2018-04-05 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
ch may happen). So let's please not overreact, and stick to the current discussion instead of having the next WikiConvention in a flying fortress with armed guards, sniffing dogs, and metal detectors at every door… Roger / Alphos 2018-04-05 18:40 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

2018-10-10 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
When I read such mails, I think there is something that it's not 100% working in the workflow of AffCom. If i might say how i feel it, I would say that it is not perceived like a "catalyst" of good practices, but more like a bottleneck of processes. Maybe more transparency could help. UG and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

2018-10-11 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
The pro forma statement bout what a chapter is is valuable, but I think many of us kinda got the idea that the problem was not the starting point (otherwise why electing him?) but came later. It's possible that someone else with more community experience would have never behaved such way, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hiding versions because of copyright violation

2019-01-14 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
privacy violations is not standard at all. For example some wikis hide personal details that people put on purpose, while other ones see no point since it's their will to show them. Also, even if it is not strictly related to private information, blocking deceased users is not standardized

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year 2018: The results are in!

2019-03-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I am happy to notice that, if I recall correctly, two of these finalists were runner-ups of Wiki Science Competition 2017 (the tornado, Commons:Wiki Science Competition 2017/Winners - Wikimedia Commons "image sets" category) and of European Science Photo Competition 2015 (the frozen bubble,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Reminding is easy, it's analyzing that it's complex. I suspect that editors and readers are probably a little bit smarter than generally assumed. It's quite "obvious" that editors understand what is an encyclopedia, after years. When I make an informal survey, statistically the "smarter"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I know people in many fields with great technical expertise. people who published articles on Science and Nature basically, and in the end I think they are probably qualified to have an idea of what a good encyclopedia should be. The point is that these people open wiki for topics far away

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Albania

2019-02-06 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I guess... probably one include also the majority of Kosovo, Albanian-speaking regions of Greece, P.Y.R.O.M./North Macedonia and maybe even Southern Italy and the other one is just centered on Albania as a state. This is not the same scenario as Brazil (not sure if, partially, also Greece)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS2019 voter selection from UG-GE

2019-04-15 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Hi all. Thanks to UG Georgia for their effort. if any UGs or chapter would like to publish a meta page about the choice of the voter, in order to maximize transparency, that's a good idea. My only request is to try to follow a similar naming scheme "Name of the affiliate/ASBS2019 Voter" (also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-13 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
uld be, and that is a real problem. I think there's a bias on Wikipedia when weighing the pros and cons of policy, because it's easy to overlook the absence of something that never was there to begin with. On Mar 13, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote: > W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
. And we gave a copy to each student, so they could have a guidance. And we also gave them a direct e-mail so they could ask for copyrights issues: two of them did it and we gave them some answers. Cheers Galder From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l Sent: Monday,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
If I could share my vision, I am not part of the group of "expert flagged users"(I have some flags here and there, I was asked to get more but I have no rush) and I am not part of the group of "expert outreach users" (I make events but change them so often I do not play any specific role).

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
We have dozens of cross project brainstorming off-wiki. But the general feeling is often that if you encourage the social dynamics of a platform in a way that people who like to "play cops" are a key actor... when this is established there is no point in creating sophisticated or efficient

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the WikiClassics User Group

2019-05-15 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Thank you all for your replies. Congratulation also to Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group, for being recognized with us. FYI, it seems that WikiClassics abbreviation will be WCS https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reports=revision=19091680=19086803 Alessandro Il lunedì 13 maggio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing our newest chapter, Wikimedia Colombia

2019-07-31 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Good luck! Il mercoledì 31 luglio 2019, 20:11:39 CEST, Asaf Bartov ha scritto: Congratulations!   A. On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:02 PM Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees > has approved the recognition

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikipedians of Goa User Group

2019-07-31 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
congratulations! Il mercoledì 31 luglio 2019, 20:08:32 CEST, camelia boban ha scritto: Wonderful news, congrats to the new UG . Camelia, WikiDonne UG -- *Camelia Boban* *| Java EE Developer |* *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia *Foundation Coordinator - Diversity Working

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Astrophoto Contest

2019-10-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Great news. Wish you all the luck! Il giovedì 24 ottobre 2019, 11:22:42 CEST, Toni Ristovski ha scritto: Hi Aron, Thank you for your interest in this contest. Yes, of course, you can upload non-professional photos. No, photo should not be taken only from 15.10.2019 to 15.11.2019, so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why renaming to Wikipedia will wreak havoc on other projects

2020-02-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Images_for_Wikidata_-_%22Global_Young_Academy%22This is the chat at Commons  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#OTRS_&_WikidataThanks,      GerardM On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 17:45, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote:  Can you pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why renaming to Wikipedia will wreak havoc on other projects

2020-02-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Can you provide some links? I keep asking images for Wikidata items since years and I do not recall any issue at all. I have the feeling that as long everything is formally correct (all categories prepared and linked via wikidata infobox) nobody digs into that very much. It's true however that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Candidates for new mandate

2020-01-22 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News=prev=19695407 , I think I did the same last year but I was considering obvious we had received some mails and I did not pay attention. I am surprised there are so many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Candidates for new mandate

2020-01-22 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
in AffCom concerning communication with the communities, for sure... :P Best,Paulo Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l escreveu no dia quinta, 23/01/2020 à(s) 00:23:  On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News=prev=19695

Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19

2020-03-12 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-( James On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: >  Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19

2020-03-12 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central office quickly in Geneva if necessary. Changing some licenses was one of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19

2020-03-12 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
/WikiForHumanRights[4]  https://standup4humanrights.org/en/2020/highlights_04.html On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:44 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote:  Well, we did our share. For both medical and social aspects, we were there. I was hoping at least to get some guidelines for our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject COVID-19 (English Wikipedia) is started

2020-03-15 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I took images of an almost empty Milan Central train station even before i think there were any specific social distancing rule https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Milano_Centrale_train_station_during_2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Italy ... and created few days later 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Meet

2020-04-25 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I told so many times WMF should support infrastructure for the volunteers, so thank you very much for this step in that direction. A.M. Il domenica 26 aprile 2020, 01:08:01 CEST, Tito Dutta ha scritto: Hello, That's super great news. I definitely want to try it. Thanks a lot for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-17 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
"there are way less people maintaining it than it is needed" is naif summary of what is going on. IMHO. There are people maintaining it in a way that is counterproductive. You can always create an efficient workflow, if you want it. We don't need people that delete an image of a statue in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-17 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
process of Commons that enable it to recognise stuff that has a place in "fair use" situations. It opens up our content linguistically and it will definitely make us more inclusively for a world beyond the two U-s.Thanks,      GerardM On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 17:25, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-18 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I keep using Commons/OTRS with newbies, but I warned them how dysfunctional it can be. it's not really about doing things properly but how they look a certain way to people with a certain mindset. Addressing issues of copyright has limited correlation with what people who know superficially

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-18 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
have enough time. Also I would introduce it only to students with a solid knowledge of English. Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l schrieb am Mo. 18. Mai 2020 um 13:08: > In the end, it's more like inducing order from other projects than caring > about the order on Commons because there c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-18 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
h time. Also I would introduce it only to students with a solid knowledge of English. Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l schrieb am Mo. 18. Mai 2020 um 13:08: > In the end, it's more like inducing order from other projects than caring > about the order on Commons because there clearly c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-18 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
activity to a minimum > > and I am not planning to increase the activity level). > > > > Best > > Yaroslav > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:12 PM Ziko van Dijk > wrote: > > > > Hello Alessandro, > > Thank you for your post

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-18 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
ady have so its all consistent. At the moment we are > developing differing concepts, tools, policies in isolation . > >> On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 23:34, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < >> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> Yes, structured data a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-20 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
To be honest, I actively discourage newbies to edit but also to upload on Commons when they start. I prefer it when they focus on something else. If needed, I can find enough files because of my expertise and that's a decent starting point. Of course, I am active and soon or later uploading is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
First of all, good job. I appreciate that. To be honest, however, some of us did not need a "proof of concept" to know that this was possible, we would have helped to build it years ago if the situation allowed it. it did not, the "social" environment was against it. We could not de facto

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Operation and oversight of OTRS system

2020-07-22 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I still think that more transparency is possible here and there on this issue. Of course, we could have started a long process to get there by now but time is limited and precisely because we should provide a "healthy image of the movement" my goal so far has been to avoid using OTRS with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-08-07 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
We have an archive mixing different licenses now, one is Commons ranging from CC-0 to CC BY SA, and other ones are local Wikis sometimes including in their spectrum of situations many non-free files in fair use. this is proof that an archive hosting non-free files with other free-licensed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-08-08 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
WikiNotYetFree is ok, structured search for locally hosted files is ok...  I think that there are many different pathways that will lead to more or less a certain scenario. What should be clear, IMHO, is that some process will occur in any case even if somebody stands on the soapbox

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-08-02 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Most of the proposal for NC usually pushed for a separate infrastructure, as far as I know. I'm not a fan of a unified archive, for example I am fine with a separate one. As I said, I also see it as a great way to experiment many features we can't have on Commons, maybe even a truly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-13 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I would probably never try to convince somebody about NC license. It sounds pushy and almost never works, it's like optimizing a process that has a 0.1% output. of course I can spend less time to do so, and maybe double the effect, but it's still a limited output. I prefer to agree with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-14 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Centralized Wiki for NC files will work. It's the same debate when we started to put metadata on Commons, it did not stop the process, it just made it slower and less efficient, but it remained kinda inevitable. It's the same background, the frustration and confusion of the current situation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-11 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I always supported a more effective centralized policy for NC. I don't think that will discourage organizations from adopting more free license per se, the same way that adopting certain NC material on local Wikis did not so far. it's not an absolute consequence, it's how you do it. At least,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
do not want to judge about this intention, but I imagine that it can become problematic when your goal is to build a knowledge *commons*. Kind regards Ziko Benjamin Lees schrieb am So. 12. Juli 2020 um 09:31: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:20 PM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
, 09:31:12 CEST, Benjamin Lees ha scritto: On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:20 PM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote: Are we really sure he would have done something in any case if we did not provide such options? It's pretty hard to be sure about the hypothetical behavior of i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Operation and oversight of OTRS system

2020-07-19 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I am now quite confused. Are we supposed to ask very specific questions about OTRS hoping to get an answer because if the questions are too generic for sure we will never get a lot of answers? is that the general idea? ok if it helps, here are some of them 1. are OTRS policies categorized