Re: [Wikimedia-l] Academics and accessible writing

2012-05-28 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/5/29 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: Thoughts? Do people from non-English outreach programs to academics have any similar experiences? Depends on the particular project and the people involved. In a project about Tort law we got several dozens of Hebrew articles about the subject

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Still wikipediocentric

2012-06-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
A belated reply... Some new recent developments: A labs environment was set up: http://en.wikisource.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page In the San Francisco hackathon work was done on this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Hackathon_January_2012/ProofRead I plan to work on it more in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi Denny, TL;DR: It's a very important question, but don't worry about it too much. Just do Wikidata well as it is currently planned. Now, the full reply. I wrote a bit of an essay about it in 2008: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tips_for_resolving_interwiki_conflicts I also started a page to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia developers

2012-07-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
And the possible change would be for wikitech-ambassadors to become a medium-to-high-traffic, plain English, list for discussion between developers and Wikimedia users, to report issues, share ideas and provide feedback in unapologetically layman terms. The Ambassadors part also means that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia developers

2012-07-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/7/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Amir E. Aharoni, 11/07/2012 15:40: And the possible change would be for wikitech-ambassadors to become a medium-to-high-traffic, plain English, list for discussion between developers and Wikimedia users, to report issues, share ideas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-24 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/7/24 Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk: WMUK have asked, and we live in London; some of us next door to the stadium. The answer is a resounding 'no' from all corners, even when we speak to the government. We've got a volunteer with very good access to the games, but even

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-24 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/7/24 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org: Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue? Considering that this will be a returning issue every two years, I guess that would be worth the trouble... Generally, I think that it would be a good idea. I'm just not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/7/25 Thomas Souza-Buckup thomassouzabuc...@gmail.com: Lodewijk I agree with you. It makes a lot of sense to start now a negotiation with the IOC in order to prepare for the next Olympic Games taking place in Brazil in 2016. The winter games in Sochi 2014 are supposed to be quite

[Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects

2012-07-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing: We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top contributors, in an effort to better understand and respond to issues they're facing. (page 41). I was very happy to read

Re: [Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects

2012-07-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/7/29 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 21:35: I'm not sure I like the idea of key community stakeholders Well, this sends us back to Tom Morris' classic post: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-February/118759.html But that's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects

2012-08-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Thank you for the links, Tilman! 2012/8/4 Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing: We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Articles for Creation broken

2012-08-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
For those who don't know what Articles for Creation is: It's a page in the English Wikipedia. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC -- Amir 2012/8/17 Steven Zhang cro0...@gmail.com: So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 pending article

[Wikimedia-l] the hidden toolbox

2012-09-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello, Time after time I run into new users of Wikimedia projects who don't know that they can use the functions that are available in the Toolbox on the sidebar, such as What links here, Upload file, User contributions and E-mail this user. I pointed these people to the toolbox, because they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CNET News: Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia

2012-09-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hmmm, should I stop reading at Wikimedia Foundation UK? -- Amir 2012/9/18 Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl: Spotted this in my news feed, http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/ sincerely, Kim Bruning

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New font for accessibility to dyslexics

2012-10-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/10/7 cyrano cyrano.faw...@gmail.com: b and d are perfectly symmetrical. What about horizontal dyslexia ? That's a question to the font developers, not to us. We are just integrating it :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

2012-10-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/10/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Dario Taraborelli, 06/09/2012 23:47: The complete reports on WMF research on AFT5 can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Article_feedback The tool is currently deployed on a random 10% sample of English Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/10/17 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/10/17 Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk: On 17 October 2012 09:16, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote: 2012/10/17 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FreeBSD fate and the lesson for Wikimedia movement

2012-12-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/12/10 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: And our competition are not various online encyclopedias -- not one as large and as relevant as Wikipedia. Our competition are top Internet sites, which are taking away the attention of our users. Fortunately, no top Internet site has enough of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

2013-01-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/1/9 Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com: Hi there, everybody speaks here about editor retention and how we dont know the reasons for editing decline. What about highlighting the the edit tab some special color (maybe red) like this: Similar things were done in Wikipedias in several languages.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Phonetic text and Easy to read texts

2013-02-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/2/12 Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se: We had an expert from a center for for promoting Easy to read text to look into some of our introduction text for some articles on on sv:wp. She reacted strongly in us in some cases having phonetic text in parenthesis in the first

Re: [Wikimedia-l] to publish an article in Wikimedia

2013-03-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi Shmuel, This is a list for discussions about Wikipedia. If you want to create your own article, please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_started -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.”

Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/3/12 Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org: Le 2013-03-11 20:56, Michael Snow a écrit : On 3/11/2013 12:47 PM, Itzik Edri wrote: Oops. Just noticed that I sent this email to Wikimedia-L instead of WMIL mailing list. Sorry! :) Too bad - I was hoping it was a sign that people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [org] Reunió comunitària pel xat

2013-04-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Em sembla que no ho has enviat a la llista adequada :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2013/4/27 Arnau Duran arnaudu...@gmail.com Hem convocat una nova reunió oberta a tothom via

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/6/3 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de: Hello dear all, I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and saw the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more potential would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into WikiData and close

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/6/7 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to many of you the explanation for leaving

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/6/9 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net All edits and other actions are archived, but I would think there would be zero interest or utility to NSA. I would simply ignore the matter. How about private messages from Special:EmailUser? Just asking. I haven't studied the subject of PRISM much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/7/23 Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org: Should that even be a concern? I mean, if lots of newbies and technophobes start using the Visual Editor and a bunch of us dorks who love writing markup don't, would that matter? I saw the following more than once on editing workshops and similar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/7/31 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Quality like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One thing that I learned today is that the Visual Editor will have functionality that only the more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] git.wikimedia.org dead due to wikimania ; )

2013-08-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/8/14 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org: On 14/08/13 07:40, Oliver Keyes wrote: We have weekend support - for core services, which constitute our MediaWiki instances. Git, however, is not a core service - as Max accurately notes, while it makes development finicky and frustrating, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Stack Exchange vs. Wikimedia

2013-09-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I participate in StackOverflow - asking, answering, voting, editing existing answers. Voting is probably good for a site that is structured around short answers and short questions. I'm not sure that it would work for Wikipedia, where articles are expected to grow to multiple pages over a long

[Wikimedia-l] The Old Wikipedia logo is still widely used - what can we do?

2013-12-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hallo. The old version of the puzzle globe Wikipedia logo was retired in 2010. It had wrongly painted letters in several languages as well as some graphical imperfections. The current logo has correct letters and improved vector graphics quality. Despite the replacement having taken place almost

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Readers still love you

2014-01-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Good to know that at least somebody sees it positively. I do it with my family all the time and they call me a spoilsport. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014/1/4 Federico Leva

[Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-08 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, Is there any plan to allow using the Thanks feature to thank anonymous Wikimedia users? A Hebrew Wikipedia user asked me about this, saying that it may be even more useful to thank anons than logged-in users. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-08 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru On 08.01.2014 15:22, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Hi, Is there any plan to allow using the Thanks feature to thank anonymous Wikimedia users? A Hebrew Wikipedia user asked me about this, saying that it may be even more useful to thank anons than logged-in users

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for different languages. It appears if you click the gear icon near the interlanguage links. Among other things, it provides the OpenDyslexic font for some languages

[Wikimedia-l] This weird trick will make readers of mass messages on village pumps happier

2014-01-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Got your attention? :) Various mass messages are occasionally sent to village pumps in many projects - by the Foundation's community liaisons, by researchers, and others. Sometimes people bother to put them up for translation, which is wonderful, but sometimes it is not practical, for example if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] This weird trick will make readers of mass messages on village pumps happier

2014-01-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
[OMG, I actually wrote quite a lot of that page.] -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014/1/17 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com This is already in the guidelines:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I visited Ukraine twice. The first time was when I was five years old, mostly in the country side and in some magical historic towns like Chernihiv, Nizhyn and Kozelets. I also spent one day in Kyiv, which left me very strong and fond memories of open blue skies, tasty ice cream, and lovely city

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Big sigh. According to Wikimedia Ukraine blog, one Wikimedian was killed: Ihor Kostenko, a student of Geography born in 1991. http://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/in-memoriam-of-ihor-kostenko/ You can express condolences here: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ig2000/Пам'ять

[Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org

2014-03-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hallo, A big red notice at the top of strategy.wikimedia.org says: This wiki has been closed per community discussion. I understand what it means: that that wiki site finished serving its purpose and became read-only. That is fine. However, some pages on it are still useful for reference, for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org

2014-03-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
+02:00 Bohdan Melnychuk bas...@yandex.ru: Oppose. Those who don't know what's wiki shall wikipedia it :) --Base 09.03.2014 10:50, Amir E. Aharoni написав(ла): Hallo, A big red notice at the top of strategy.wikimedia.org says: This wiki has been closed per community discussion. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org - done

2014-03-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Thank you. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-03-09 11:14 GMT+02:00 matanya mata...@foss.co.il: I have fixed it per Amir's comment. It makes sense, and we should use this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 1 week reminder: Wikimania 2014 – Call for Submissions

2014-03-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I agree with Marc. I edited the brochure for Wikimania 2011 and I spent a lot of time making the abstracts *shorter*. Unless somebody plans to publish a Wikimania proceedings book of at least a 100 pages, the abstracts should be *no more* than 200 words or so. When it is *no less* than 300 words,

[Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Something positive... I just wanted to express my sincere thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata. Many of them happen to be my colleagues, but I thank them here as a Wikimedian who frequently does editing workshops. I did a workshop today, and I was really happy to have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ELWP reaches 100000 articles

2014-04-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Callooh! Callay! Congratulations to the language that gave so many other languages[1] the word Encyclopedia. [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5292#sitelinks-wikipedia -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back

2014-04-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Andy, Serbian beer is like English wine: it exists, it's consisted of ethanol -- among the other things --, you can drink it without serious consequences to your health, but it's not for hoarding :P Rakija is the right Serbian product. Do you remember drinking it in Pristina? Or not? :P I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with parentheses. It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and doesn't have this problem. Thanks for the attention. בתאריך 20 באפר 2014 02:17, מאת Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm: On a second thought, do we want

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2014-04-20 6:46 GMT+03:00 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: There is the question: Why should we do that? The answer is clear to me: Because we can. You'll be hard-pressed to find a lot of people who support the general idea more than I do, but precisely because of that I believe that we must be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
This is not quite correct. It's very hard, but possible. But Wikimedia alone cannot do it. Wikimedia can be one of the tools that are used by the cultural elite, which Milos brought up. Each of these languages needs people like [[Pompeu Fabra]] and [[Vuk Stefanović Karadžić]] and, dare I say,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
X, so there's no purpose putting resources into Y. Wikimedia UK does little work with Gaelic, but quite a bit with Welsh; I wonder if Robin Owain reads this list? He's a good person to speak to about this. Chris On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: This is not quite correct. It's very hard, but possible. But Wikimedia alone cannot do it. Wikimedia can be one of the tools that are used by the cultural elite, which Milos brought up. Each of these languages needs people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Unicode support is not that big of a deal. It's growing all the time, and the Unicode standard itself is ahead of Wikipedia and will likely remain ahead of it for a while. The operating systems' actual support for it is far from perfect, but it isn't a huge in itself either. Existence of written

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation

2014-07-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
It's nice technically, but the fact that it's necessary is tragic. The Evacuation title is very apt. North Korea, Iran, Russia, Brazil and other countries are talking about creating their own internets. It's a shame that the Wikimedia community does essentially the same thing - dividing humanity

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Good points, Lane. Such things were possibly discussed before, but it's the first time that I see it it spelled out like this. This approach should be advertised a bit somehow, so that the researchers know how to do it ethically and for everybody's benefit, and so that the experienced Wikipedians

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Translation tool's problem

2014-07-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Not all parts of the page were prepared for translation. For example, the Increasing the quantity, quality, diversity, and reach of free knowledge part is in the {{Grants:Start/Header}} template, which isn't translated. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data

2014-08-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Can we join more Wikipedias to the comparison? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-08-19 10:38 GMT+03:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Amir has created

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2014-09-07 4:17 GMT+03:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com: I think the design of Flow is much like the liqueur-filled chocolates. It's missed the point of a discussion space on Wikimedia projects. All the use cases in the world, no matter how carefully researched and accounted for, will help you

[Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

2014-09-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
My 2 agorot in the Flow or not Flow discussion: A prominent Hebrew Wikipedia user started a discussion about his impression that too few people participate in the discussions about nominating featured articles.[1] This Wikipedia has about 700 active and 150 very active editors[2]; the number of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

2014-09-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
If the reason is so trivial (on it.wiki it's certainly more complex than that), sounds like something that subpagination and/or RSS feeds can solve I expected supagination to come up. The English Wikipedia uses it for Articles for Deletion (AfD) and for a lot of other things. I tried to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

2014-09-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2014-09-15 15:13 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Amir E. Aharoni, 15/09/2014 13:12: The English Wikipedia uses it for Articles for Deletion (AfD) and for a lot of other things. I tried to follow AfD for some time, and I had similar issues. Issues which you still haven't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

2014-09-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The alternative would be to set watchlist to show all changes and not just the last one, but then it would show one row per change or a group of rows per page, and that would make it even more cluttered. That never looked cluttered to me. :) It did to me, and AFAIK, you and I started

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

2014-09-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2014-09-15 16:18 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: I expect half of what would come up to be problems with Watchlist and RecentChanges, applying to any namespace and only made worse by the repeated attempt to take stuff out of them. Those are THE central engines of any wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

2014-09-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Nitpick: If watchlist and notifications remain separated, it makes more sense to me to call the operation that adds something to watchlist watch rather than ''subscribe. בתאריך 17 בספט 2014 12:05, Diego Moya dialm...@gmail.com כתב: On 16 September 2014 21:32, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org

[Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, I looked at my contribution in the German Wikipedia[1] and noticed some unusual things: * I have many more contributions there than I thought I do. * I did some very strange edits, such as adding a category with an *English* name[2] Why would I do such a thing?, I thought. Then I realized

Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
. Romaine 2014-10-04 15:09 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: Hi, I looked at my contribution in the German Wikipedia[1] and noticed some unusual things: * I have many more contributions there than I thought I do. * I did some very strange edits, such as adding

[Wikimedia-l] media vs images, videos, songs and files

2014-10-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
In the user interface messages of MediaWiki and its extensions the word media is usually used to refer to images, videos, sounds and files. It is convenient, because they are handled similarly by the software. But it is also awful, because I'm quite sure that people don't talk to each other about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] media vs images, videos, songs and files

2014-10-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com: On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Every time I translate messages that have the word media in them, I think that a lot of users will not actually understand them, and that if I would stand next to them, I'd

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor

2014-10-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Thank goodness this wasn't written five years ago, otherwise somebody could get the awful idea to implement it. בתאריך 25 באוק 2014 18:26, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl כתב: I spotted this article linked from news.ycombinator.com, arguing -well- what it says on the tin. ;-) Apologies if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor

2014-10-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
transparent to all editors. (This is not an official representation of the Wikimedia Foundation's opinion.) בתאריך 25 באוק 2014 19:40, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com כתב: On Oct 25, 2014 6:17 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Thank goodness this wasn't written

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor

2014-10-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Perpetuating it with a dedicated IDE wouldn't help it go away. בתאריך 25 באוק 2014 20:51, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com כתב: On Oct 25, 2014 7:20 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Because, even though I'm well aware of the fact that lots of experienced

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor

2014-10-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-10-25 21:44 GMT+03:00 Mark delir...@hackish.org: On 10/25/14, 7:20 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Because, even though I'm well aware of the fact that lots of experienced wikipedians love wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor

2014-10-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com: On Oct 25, 2014 8:03 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Perpetuating it with a dedicated IDE wouldn't help it go away. I doubt that. Side by side wikitext and result, making you see the result of either in the other in real time could

[Wikimedia-l] new Math options: phrasing the preferences

2014-10-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
As a follow-up to the discussions about the new Math rendering options, I'd like to raise the question of how to write the preferences in way that will really be helpful to the users. I made a little patch at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/167024/ It only fixes some minor things, and the

[Wikimedia-l] thank vs. like

2014-10-26 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
In the Hebrew Wikipedia there's a discussion about the Thanks feature, which raises the following confusion among other things: Why does the person who is sending the thank-you gets a message saying $1 was notified that you liked his/her edit., and the person who receives the thank-you

[Wikimedia-l] edited mercilessly

2014-12-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, I have a vague recollection that when I started editing the English Wikipedia ten years ago, there was a notice near the Save button, which said something like this: Your changes will be edited mercilessly. I remember similar notices in other languages as well, though even more vaguely. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] edited mercilessly

2014-12-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
hard-core, like it will be edited mercilessly. And I can't find anything like that in the Visual Editor. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-12-03 15:08 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] edited mercilessly

2014-12-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
· אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-12-03 19:01 GMT+02:00 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org: On 3 December 2014 at 05:08, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, I have

[Wikimedia-l] MoodBar usage

2014-12-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, If I recall correctly, the development of the MoodBar extension was declared as discontinued, but I see that it is still being used by some wikis. If I'm reading the configuration[1] correctly, it's enable on the following projects: * French Wikisource ( http://fr.wikisource.org/ ) *

Re: [Wikimedia-l] MoodBar usage

2014-12-10 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2014-12-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com: I hope the test for a feature like this is whether a community has consensus for it to be deployed. It is entirely possible that one person finds something useful even where the vast majority consider it does more harm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-26 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Useful link, thank you! I know that article count is very far from perfect as a metric, of course. All of the things at that page are relevant and my question could be asked about any of them. בתאריך 26 בינו 2015 01:36, ‏Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com כתב: Amir E. Aharoni, 26/01/2015 02

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: (And yes, I know that Language planning and some of the other items are not measurable as numbers. I'm throwing ideas around.) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I'd be the most vocal opponent of an encyclopedia *censored* for children. But I would be a very vocal proponent of an encyclopedia *adapted* for children. Not by dumbing it down and not by removing information that some cultures, religions or governments consider immoral or

[Wikimedia-l] Open Well-Tempered Clavier

2015-03-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, Plenty of things like this happen in the Wikimedia world every day, but as a music lover I'm especially happy about this one: The Open Well-Tempered Clavier project was completed yesterday with the public domain release of all the music files, and it's already on Commons:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Well-Tempered Clavier

2015-03-21 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I don't know, I wondered, too. בתאריך 21 במרץ 2015 17:58, ‏Rob gamali...@gmail.com כתב: Fantastic! Any idea if they will be recording book II of the Clavier as well? On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:39:52 +0200 Amir E

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

2015-02-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
But, my initial point was: Am I missing something? Would there be any reason why such grammar would have sense without ND clause? Milos, Could we not import these works onto Wikisource in original format, where they would be preserved without permitting altering from the original?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

2015-02-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
But since Milos asked: In Wikisource changing the original is indeed vandalism, but somebody must notice that it's vandalism. AFAIK Wikisource doesn't have a proper way to authenticate that the document is in its original form. Could you elaborate on this? If you open the links in my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

2015-02-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-02-23 14:54 GMT+02:00 John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: But since Milos asked: In Wikisource

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
-08:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: Hi, It is well-known that the size of a Wikipedia in a given language is not proportional to the number of people who speak that language. By size I mean the article count and the active editor count. This begs the question

[Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, It is well-known that the size of a Wikipedia in a given language is not proportional to the number of people who speak that language. By size I mean the article count and the active editor count. This begs the question: Is it proportional to anything else? I can think of a bunch of

[Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-04-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
[ cross-posted to MediaWiki-i18n, Wikimedia-L and Wikitech-L ] Dear Wikimedians, The 2000th article that was written using the ContentTranslation extension was published today. Article #2000 was translated from English to Greek, and it's about Škocjan Caves, a UNESCO World Heritage site in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

2015-06-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I am AWFULLY biased about this, but I'll be shameless anyway; please slap me if I overstep the self-promotion. I did a Wikipedia editing workshop in the University of South Africa in Pretoria yesterday. As far as I know, it was the first one ever that focused on using the recently enabled

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
, but shouldn't this be possible to do from the dashboard? Thanks for all of your work on this, because I do believe translating existing content is a direction that I personally want to take in the Wikiverse in general. Jane Thanks, Jane On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Amir E. Aharoni

[Wikimedia-l] Board diversity

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
[ Split from Results of 2015 WMF Board elections‏ ] 2015-06-06 13:19 GMT+03:00 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com: 2) There is nothing in the process to produce any diversity in the result. Indeed. I don't see much active effort to encourage diversity in gender, professional skills,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
tool (from Magnus) so you could use that: https://tools.wmflabs.org/magnustools/prepbio.php On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Jane, Thanks for trying ContentTranslation and providing feedback. Replies inline. I decided to translate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Languages] Wikipedia article per speaker

2015-06-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Dry article creation with little actual community interaction like discussions, arguments and reverts, is problematic, but it does have one overlooked advantage, which I myself didn't quite realize just a few months ago: Creating a lot of texts that are known to be corresponding (a.k.a. parallel)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Design] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

2015-06-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The first problem I always think about is figuring out which template to insert - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55590 Template parameter insertion works mostly fine if TemplateData is defined. This requires some effort from the community, but it's reasonable. But the editor always has to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US affiliates (was: Re: WMF office location and remodel)

2015-06-28 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The WMF will become a truly global organization when a Wikimedia US chapter is founded ;-) W Not quite, but it would be an important step in that direction. Work on USA projects should be done by USA Wikimedia chapters and other USA organization, not by the Foundation. It used to be worse in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons

2015-07-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I've been doing this in Israel for a while already. (In Hebrew! From right to left! Thanks to User:Mooeypoo [cced], she is awesome!) It's pretty successful. Basic formatting, headings, and citations are far, far easier to explain using VE. I do *mention* the source editor, because it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons

2015-07-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: On 30 July 2015 at 14:43, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I've been doing this in Israel for a while already. (In Hebrew! From right to left! Thanks to User:Mooeypoo [cced], she is awesome!) It's pretty successful. Yes, I recall

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