Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 97, Issue 32

2012-04-10 Thread Craig Franklin
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:27:25 -0600 From: James Heilman To: Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-23 Thread Craig Franklin
such a condescending and passive-aggressive response. I'm sure you're all very busy but that's no excuse for not continually striving for a higher standard of transparency and accountability (within the obvious restrictions that your work imposes). Regards, Craig Franklin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0

2012-04-26 Thread Craig Franklin
Firstly, let me say this is very very cool news. I went to go and have a browse though, and it's all tied up in a massive (around 3gb) archive file rather than being easily browsable. I know that WikiData is the obvious place to put it, but perhaps it would be useful as a reference work on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner, 5/11 at 17:00 UTC

2012-05-08 Thread Craig Franklin
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 20:08:44 -0700 From: Sue Gardner To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner,   5/11 at        17:00 UTC Message-ID:        

[Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter)

2012-10-14 Thread Craig Franklin
Can I second this one, we've run into it occasionally in WMAU outreach sessions as well, and it's always fun explaining why it's said no to someone without a foundation in computers or internet culture. A brief explanation of why it's happened and what to do in order to not lose your edit, made

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 103, Issue 54

2012-10-26 Thread Craig Franklin
, and don't try to bang a wiki-shaped peg into a bugzilla-shaped hole. (single sign-on across to bugzilla would be very cool though!) Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

2013-01-12 Thread Craig Franklin
What a dreadful loss. I never knew Aaron except through his work and his writings, but he always came across as a confident person who was truly passionate about the work that he did. We're all the poorer for his passing. My condolences to everyone on this list who knew him. Regards, Craig

[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard

2013-01-13 Thread Craig Franklin
to a good start if the project still a rather limited set of rules, and wishes to remain so. Kind Regards, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Craig Franklin
. Regards, Craig Franklin Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:00:21 +0100 From: Manuel Schneider To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment Message-ID: Content-Type

[Wikimedia-l] Committee changes at Wikimedia Australia

2013-03-18 Thread Craig Franklin
that after a consultation period with our members, the committee at our meeting yesterday approved the changes. The new committee is as follows: President: Craig Franklin Secretary: Graham Pearce Treasurer: John Vandenberg Members: Kerry Raymond, Steve Zhang Observers: Charles Gregory, Ross

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement *please read*

2013-03-28 Thread Craig Franklin
Sue DID seem to enjoy herself when she was here recently. Hell, I'd settle for Premier of Queensland at this rate. Whaddaya say, Sue? Cheers, Craig On 28/03/2013 8:02 PM, K. Peachey wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Mathias Schindler

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Adopt a page

2013-03-30 Thread Craig Franklin
pitfalls with this model that have been discussed many times - there are many potential COI issues, and paid editing in some areas may discourage unpaid editing in others. However, I think it would be unwise simply to dismiss those sort of possibilities out of hand. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 30

[Wikimedia-l] Save the date: Wikimedia Australia committee get-together in Sydney, 7 April

2013-04-02 Thread Craig Franklin
got this secured we’ll let you know straight away. At the moment it is planned to be an all day event, but if you can’t spare the entire day feel free to drop in whenever. Cheers, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Save the date: Wikimedia Australia committee get-together in Sydney, 7 April

2013-04-03 Thread Craig Franklin
to see many of you there! Regards, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia On 2 April 2013 21:33, Craig Franklin wrote: Hi Sydneysiders, As the WMAU committee will be in Sydney this weekend for the Wikimedia in Higher Education symposium

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more

2013-04-03 Thread Craig Franklin
by noboard_chapterswikimedia though - what is this for? To those wondering what sort of mysterious secrets are held on them, the answer is not much interesting. Mainly contact details and a semi-out-of-date listing for the internal-l mailing list, as far as I can see. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 3

Re: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of aWikipedia article

2013-04-05 Thread Craig Franklin
...and ensuring its translated into as many languages as possible! On 06/04/2013 7:10 AM, Peter Southwood wrote: Well that's one way of drawing attention to the site... - Original Message - From: Tomasz W. Kozłowski To: Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic plans of the Wikimedia entities: could you link your strategy, please?

2013-04-23 Thread Craig Franklin
Excellent idea Ziko! I have added the WMAU strategic plan ( ) to the list on Meta also. Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 23 April 2013 09:21, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: Great idea. [2] I think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Craig Franklin
Ting, I don't think that Itzik has said anywhere that the election committee is doing a bad job. I think he is simply saying that you shouldn't have to commit to having a meeting every week since February just to have an opinion on the topic that is taken seriously. Cheers, Craig Franklin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments on compliance and the FDC Round 2 decisions

2013-04-30 Thread Craig Franklin
in preparing their application, but also help them set realistic goals on what could be achieved would no doubt increase the quality of FDC applications and also focus chapters on delivering useful programme work, without causing any bitterness about the Foundation at the same time. Cheers, Craig Franklin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UK.Gov passes Instagram Act

2013-05-02 Thread Craig Franklin
If the Register hates it, that usually indicates to me that it is a fantastic idea. On 02/05/2013 1:07 PM, shi zhao wrote: see The Act contains changes to UK copyright law which permit the commercial exploitation of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread Craig Franklin
salary going. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 11 May 2013 21:15, K. Peachey wrote: This is the email that got sent out to everyone, --- Dear XXX, Thank you for your work with the Foundation wiki. At this time, we are formalizing a new requirement, which is that administrator

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread Craig Franklin
Yes, this. I must admit, it's tremendously demotivating and makes me quite upset that people like Aphaia, Anthere, Danny B. and Thehelpfulone, people who have put hundreds if not thousands of hours of effort into this movement without asking for a single cent, over many many years, are treated as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-12 Thread Craig Franklin
Well, perhaps there was extensive consultation from Phillippe and Gayle if it had been planned over a long period of time and I just missed it. If that's the case, I'm sure that one of them will point it out for us first thing on Monday morning, at which point I'd have to start removing egg from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-12 Thread Craig Franklin
Thanks for clarifying this Phillippe. I must say that I think this discussion is becoming unpleasantly personal (and my initial email on the topic probably didn't help there, I concede). How about we stop pointing fingers at each other and conduct an honest and transparent appraisal of what has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Craig Franklin
Upon reading Gayle's response, and reflecting on some of the comments I made on Saturday night, I have come to the conclusion that some of the things I said may have come across as a little harsh and condescending. While that was my intention (my point was that sometimes the community can bite,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Craig Franklin
All other things aside, misspelling the person's name and then calling them an asshole is hardly likely to lead to an amicable solution, peace, love, or understanding, is it? On 13 May 2013 21:09, Huib Laurens wrote: Tillman, For the record, the time between your e-mail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Report concerning appeal (FDC round 2)

2013-05-17 Thread Craig Franklin
and not onerous to implement, and I urge the FDC to accept and implement these recommendations as quickly as possible. Cheers, Craig Franklin 2013/5/15 Susana Morais Hello, For all of you who are interested, I posted on Meta a report concerning an appeal regarding

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-25 Thread Craig Franklin
Wow, I'm on the road, bur suggesting that someone ought to leave after one public error? That's brutal. Hope I never come across you while doing my day job! Cheers, Craig On 26/05/2013 5:35 AM, ENWP Pine wrote: Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:33:57 +0200 From: Federico Leva

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-01 Thread Craig Franklin
and easily replaced logo of ours does not offer a very good risk/reward ratio in my view. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 1 June 2013 19:59, Peter Southwood wrote: Has anyone done a search on other logos with similar characteristics, to see how much they differ? I think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-01 Thread Craig Franklin
On 2 June 2013 00:22, MZMcBride wrote: Craig Franklin wrote: I'm sure that the legal team has done their homework on this and would not have made this recommendation unless they felt that the WTO had a credible argument. Asking the Foundation to play chicken

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Craig Franklin
with next will be very fortunate indeed! Regards, Craig Franklin On 8 June 2013 02:32, Milos Rancic wrote: I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after the first question why I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-09 Thread Craig Franklin
at the database or OS layers. I wouldn't say that there's nothing to worry about, but at the same time I doubt we're near the top of the spooks' priority list. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 10 June 2013 13:05, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Benoit Landry benoit_lan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-10 Thread Craig Franklin
If the NSA, CIA, or some other spook agency is getting information off of Wikimedia servers, they don't have a CU account or anything like that. They'd have a program running at the operating system level that extracts the data in a standardised format and sends it off to some secret server

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee first progress reports

2013-06-12 Thread Craig Franklin
think may have the unfortunate side-effect of encouraging entities to go after easily measurable activities rather than the most effective and worthwhile activities. Hopefully this will be taken into account on future assessments. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 12 June 2013 20:52, Federico Leva

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee first progress reports

2013-06-14 Thread Craig Franklin
Thanks SJ for these thoughts, it's gratifying and encouraging that we have a WMF trustee on the case :-) While getting chapter staff to likewise review reports is a good idea, there are two potential problems that I can see with it: 1. Chapter staff may be unwilling to criticise the reports of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!

2013-06-18 Thread Craig Franklin
This is a really wonderful project, I am a big believer in producing educational opportunities to gaoled prisoners so that they can lead more productive lives upon their release, and hopefully this project goes a little way towards making that happen. Bravo, Wikimedia CH! Cheers, Craig Franklin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Craig Franklin
I think what's really offensive here is the implication that having a tat means that you're not professional. I don't have any ink myself, but I respect the choice of those who do. To be honest, I like the occasionally goofy pictures and profiles on the WMF staff page; it shows that there are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2013-14 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-14 Thread Craig Franklin
As SJ and John have pointed out, there are many good reasons to wikify documents like this, not in the least to allow deep linking, and make reading more convenient on mediums that don't play nicely with PDF (like smartphones). So long as the wikified version is protected so as to maintain its

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-16 Thread Craig Franklin
Did she get permission to use the trademark in that way by WMF legal? :-) On 17/07/2013 1:41 AM, Steffen Prößdorf wrote: Hi there, 2013/7/15 Melanie Brown Hello Everyone, As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-23 Thread Craig Franklin
in this case, although I understand the political pressures in getting the product shipped on time. Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-27 Thread Craig Franklin
if we got a bit of direction on how we could be the most useful. Cheers, Craig Franklin * Keeping in mind that my chapter probably wouldn't have the capacity to start anything in this space for at least another twelve months. On 27 July 2013 09:57, Erik Moeller wrote: On Wed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-08-05 Thread Craig Franklin
in the tab so people know what they're getting), so there's not much left except to say thanks and I appreciate it. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 2 August 2013 03:05, Erik Moeller wrote: On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Kevin Wayne Williams wrote

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile image upload

2013-08-25 Thread Craig Franklin
If we make it easier for people to contribute, we're also making it easier for people to contribute stuff we don't want. The tradeoff is definitely worth it though. Cheers, Craig On 26/08/2013 10:56 AM, Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: It does, however, get its share of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-20 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi, A few people asked me with varying degrees of seriousness about this in Hong Kong, so I'll just put this out there and say that Wikimedia Australia will not be in a position to host this event in 2014. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 16 September 2013 22:11

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Pitch In! Oral History transcription pilot

2013-09-21 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi All, Folk interested in Wikisource and/or libraries might be interested in this update from an interesting project being run with WMAU at the moment. Cheers, Craig Franklin -- Forwarded message -- From: John Vandenberg Date: 21 September 2013 20:09 Subject

Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo

2013-10-09 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi All, Just a quick thought: I'm disappointed by the way that both sides in this dispute seem to have resorted to conducting a debate via press release. I think the community expectation would be that rather than this weird passive-aggressive way of communicating, that all parties would arrange

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] How to force to enable Visual Editor

2013-10-15 Thread Craig Franklin
Hear hear. I know this is a battle that the Foundation's engineers can't possibly win, given the circumstances which VE was moved from opt-out to opt-in on enwiki (see, for those who aren't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Craig Franklin
, Craig Franklin On 22 October 2013 22:52, Nathan wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Craig Franklin wrote: Hi, I've been aware of this brewing, but can only say that I'm pleased to finally reach the surface. There is no good reason for part

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which Wikipedias have had large scale bot creation of articles this year?

2013-11-26 Thread Craig Franklin
, unfortunately. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 26 November 2013 07:50, Steven Walling wrote: Hi all, My team is doing some background research in to Wikipedia article creation right now.[1] One question I'd like answer is which Wikipedias are currently (i.e. this year

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Closure of Community Logo Consultation

2013-12-09 Thread Craig Franklin
to bed. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 8 December 2013 11:05, Geoff Brigham wrote: Hi all, The consultation has been closed on the question about the community logo registration. Many thanks to everyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-14 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Jane, I am concerned about the issue surrounding the comment the real BLP problems happen when heavyweight (in edit count terms) Wikipedia users swing their weight around I think the problem is that if you ask ten different people about the reason why we have BLP problems, you'll get ten

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-14 Thread Craig Franklin
On 15 December 2013 02:54, John Vandenberg wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: Hi Jane, I am concerned about the issue surrounding the comment the real BLP problems happen when heavyweight (in edit count terms

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dells are backdoored

2013-12-30 Thread Craig Franklin
Jasper has tried to give you honest, useful information based on his actual experience and expertise in the matter, without drawing too much attention to your clear lack of knowledge on this topic. He deserves better than sarcasm and insults from you. Regards, Craig On 30 December 2013 17:53,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF employee writing articles for $300

2014-01-05 Thread Craig Franklin
There seems to be some pretty heavy assumptions in Odder's article - it all just seems to be speculation based upon one very vague comment in her work history. Was she contacted before the blog post was made and brought to this list to ask for clarification? Cheers, Craig On 6 January 2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Craig Franklin
On 12 January 2014 02:58, MZMcBride wrote: Craig Franklin wrote: I think it's actually foolish to try and split hairs over what is acceptable paid editing and what is unacceptable paid editing. The facts of the matter are that paid editing is taking place right now

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Craig Franklin
12:29, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.netwrote: On 12 January 2014 02:58, MZMcBride wrote: Craig Franklin wrote: I think it's actually foolish to try and split hairs over what is acceptable paid editing and what is unacceptable paid editing. The facts

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation + Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director selection process

2014-01-21 Thread Craig Franklin
to look for a replacement? Does the BoT have a contingency plan in case Sue does decide to leave before a permanent replacement is found? Cheers, Craig Franklin On 21 January 2014 21:09, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hey Frederico I will write an update for the meta page

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation + Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director selection process

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Franklin
or may not be involved in a confidential hiring process in a public forum such as this. I suspect you're wasting your metaphorical breath in continually asking for these sorts of details. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 31 January 2014 16:08, James Salsman wrote: My suggestion

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Craig Franklin
The Foundation. Which is why WMFI shouldn't try to reply to this except to refer them on. Cheers, Craig On 08/02/2014 11:11 AM, Isarra Yos wrote: Who exactly would the webmaster of even be? On 08/02/14 00:24, Kevin Gorman wrote: My Finnish is hardly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-24 Thread Craig Franklin
Awful, awful news. My condolences to his family, friends, and the WMUA community =(. On 24 February 2014 09:01, Maryana Pinchuk wrote: For those of you who don't read Ukrainian, a quick ad-hoc translation of the blog post. So sorry for the loss of a fellow Ukrainian

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

2014-02-24 Thread Craig Franklin
Hear that sound? That's the sound of a million data miners working to figure out what juicy bit of info has been redacted. Cheers, Craig On 25 February 2014 09:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: The archives were rebuilt (and then restored up to January) under request of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread Craig Franklin
In addition to Risker's comments, which I agree with 100%, I would further request that any future survey of users be designed and supervised only by someone with extensive expertise and experience in the field of survey methodology. Many previous surveys that have been done by the Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-31 Thread Craig Franklin
wish you all the very best in your future endeavours. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 31 March 2014 03:59, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Dear colleagues, collaborators and friends of free knowledge, After three eventful years I left the board of Wikimedia Nederland; yesterday

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-04-01 Thread Craig Franklin
Thankyou from me as well, it's refreshing to see such a candid summary of the failings that occurred in this case, and to see the Foundation taking responsibility for those. I hope that the opportunity can be taken for all of us to learn from this so that it does not happen with future projects.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-07 Thread Craig Franklin
I agree with Ziko's point entirely here. The two people who have taken part in this discussion so far who were present at the time have not given anything to indicate it was more than a flippant remark made in a stressful situation. Not that I agree with the sentiment of course, but I'm glad

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Craig Franklin
I find myself in furious agreement with Charles here. For years the Foundation has been insisting (and quite rightly so) that allied organisations consider only the stark benefit-per-dollar that they can extract for each piece of movement funding, as measured by KPIs and metrics. Handing out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Craig Franklin
that don't share our particular mission. Cheers, Craig On 16 April 2014 22:05, David Gerard wrote: On 16 April 2014 13:03, Craig Franklin wrote: Grants directed to the development specific functionality that Wikimedia can use and which can later

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-16 Thread Craig Franklin
On 16 May 2014 15:09, Russavia wrote: But of course, you, with a grand total of 303 edits on Commons going back to 2007 (most of which comprises of voting on Picture of the Year) are speaking from a position of experience when you say you understand Commons and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-renewal of Wikimedia UK fundraiser agreement

2014-05-21 Thread Craig Franklin
The Foundation acted to strip chapters of their fundraising authority at the first opportunity, based on what clearly seems to be a pre-determined ideological decision that doesn't take actual evidence into account and centralises movement decision making authority even further in the WMF? Colour

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy

2014-05-24 Thread Craig Franklin
Look, we have quite enough non-constructive passive-aggressive stuff going on here without it being added to with thinly veiled threats like this. Please stop. I think the main issue that people have here is that Sue was very private about her private life, at least in public. Now we have the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread Craig Franklin
On 29 May 2014 07:13, Thomas Morton wrote: Child Protection- I'd like to hear about ways that policy might be changed here to better protect children, especially given some of the content on Commons. I'd also like to hear about specific examples of content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-29 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Wil, I think the advice in this thread from John and Dariusz is excellent, and well worth taking on board. Energy is good, and disruption to shake us out of our status quo is good. But at the moment, your communication style is swamping this list and that's getting people's backs up. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-05 Thread Craig Franklin
it started to become more responsive to community expectations, more transparent, and all around effective as a governance group. I am sure that this is not a coincidence. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 4 June 2014 02:17, Alice Wiegand wrote: Thanks to the organizers and facilitators

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiconference USA in the media

2014-06-08 Thread Craig Franklin
As someone who usually wears a suit and tie to Wikimedia events when I go (Hong Kong last year was the exception to that for the most part, way too humid), my advice to people would be to wear whatever the hell you feel comfortable in, subject to the normal standards of decency and the local

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement on Wikipedia from participating communications firms

2014-06-13 Thread Craig Franklin
Indeed. The thing that I like about this is that it shows these PR firms are aware of our rules and the controversy around paid editing. If they now get busted, they can hardly say that they didn't know. Regards, Craig Franklin On 13 June 2014 00:17, Nathan wrote: On Thu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread Craig Franklin
I must agree with the frustration over the quality of discussion on this mailing list lately, but I did want to make clear my appreciation to the list admins, who have decided to avoid playing semantic word games over what is and is not appropriate, and started moderating people who want to use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation of messages sent to this list

2014-06-21 Thread Craig Franklin
On 22 June 2014 09:53, Dan Rosenthal wrote: I might point out that I've perhaps needled GerardM more than most people on this list (and even been moderated for it once years ago), but I find his posts about WikiData interesting and I read them when I can. I think Thomas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lets delete everything from commons (was The tragedy of Commons)

2014-06-22 Thread Craig Franklin
Pardon me if this has already been covered, but as I understand it the problem is not the legal status of the files in Israel, the problem is with the legal status of the files in the United States, where the Israeli Government may still have some copyright protections. So while the contents of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lets delete everything from commons (was The tragedy of Commons)

2014-06-22 Thread Craig Franklin wrote: Craig, et al On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: Pardon me if this has already been covered, but as I understand it the problem is not the legal status of the files in Israel, the problem is with the legal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Research Committee

2014-07-17 Thread Craig Franklin
I've spent a half hour or so going through this, and it looks like Nathan is on the money here. If RCOM is as inactive as it seems (except where it concerns the research of RCOM members) then it is no great surprise that external parties eventually try to do an end-run around it. Unless an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-12 Thread Craig Franklin
like what happened on de.wp? Thanks, Craig Franklin On 10 August 2014 23:27, Erik Moeller wrote: Hi folks, Admins are currently given broad leeway to customize the user experience for all users, including addition of site-wide JS, CSS, etc. These are important

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Accounting software for thematic orgs

2014-08-20 Thread Craig Franklin
, and chopped away a lot of the overhead and risk of maintaining everything on our private Wiki and in Excel spreadsheets and the like. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 20 August 2014 14:54, Pine W wrote: Hi all, There are online small business accounting software packages. Do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Craig Franklin
I agree with this wholeheartedly. When I think back to when I was new on Wikipedia, pretty early on I got an honest-to-god personal message from someone to thank me for correcting a typo ( ). It made me feel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-01 Thread Craig Franklin
be intelligently reasoned with, they only harden feelings on both sides and make a suitable arrangement being found less likely. No employee should be made to receive that sort of harassment in the course of their job, no matter how much you disagree with them. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 1

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Craig Franklin
, Craig Franklin On 5 October 2014 18:04, Pine W wrote: Hi Itzik, If I understand you correctly, you are asking about whether WMF and thematic organization bylaws should allow employees to vote in trustee elections for their own orgs. I can see how this could create

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call to Action

2014-10-08 Thread Craig Franklin
eyes will assist the engineering team in pushing through the present difficulties with software deployments. Regards, Craig Franklin On 7 October 2014 11:02, Nathan wrote: Hello and welcome, Damon. One thing I've long appreciated about the Wikimedia movement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

2014-11-12 Thread Craig Franklin
of chapter and user group press contacts being the last people to find out about potentially controversial issues like this. Regards, Craig Franklin (personal view only) On 13 November 2014 10:07, Joseph Seddon wrote: I would hate to preclude any answer from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

2014-11-13 Thread Craig Franklin
and the community, and it would be a shame if that was undone through more moments of carelessness like this one. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 14 November 2014 11:16, MZMcBride wrote: Geoff Brigham wrote: In that context, we feel that laws in Russia offer a number of possible

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC funds allocation recommendation is up

2014-11-23 Thread Craig Franklin
of a factor. Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: Unsubscribe:, mailto:wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-11-28 Thread Craig Franklin
Forget that, I'd like WMUK to fly me to Scotland so that I can, uh, research and write about various types of whisky. Cheers, Craig On 25 November 2014 at 18:59, Jon Davies wrote: And next the wine project? Count me in. On 24 November 2014 at 18:22, Christophe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-11-28 Thread Craig Franklin
in Megan Hernandez, the Director of Online Fundraising in the hope of getting a comment, just in case she's not aware of this discussion. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 27 November 2014 at 21:44, Liam Wyatt wrote: This notwithstanding, I think the issue *yet again*, is a lack

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-12 Thread Craig Franklin
Am I the only one that sees the irony in asking folks not to pick on the Commons community, then immediately asserting that enwp is the source of all drama? Cheers, Craig Franklin On 12/12/2014 4:56 PM, Pipo Le Clown wrote: As you said, the first issue of Commons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-18 Thread Craig Franklin
very much, but needed more to build cool new tools, improve the quality of the project content, and implement more innovative projects to meet our movement's goals. Regards, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there some Wikimedia project to host contents based on original research?

2015-01-05 Thread Craig Franklin
rules for the content, and make your own rules about what is and is not allowed. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 5 January 2015 at 23:42, Richard Symonds wrote: This sounds like a Wikisource idea - do we have any wikisourcerers who can give their thoughts? Richard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [treasurers] Accounting software for thematic orgs

2015-02-16 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Pine, That's great to hear, I was really pleased with how Xero worked for our organisation and I hope it's just as good for you. If you (or any other user group) need a hand with it, please feel free to drop me a line as I've a few years experience with it now. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 16

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Join the Wikimedia strategy consultation

2015-02-23 Thread Craig Franklin
On 24 February 2015 at 09:40, MZMcBride wrote: Philippe Beaudette wrote: Five years ago, I was part of the work on a strategic plan for the Wikimedia movement. Much has changed since then. Now, I’m back...and we’re working on strategic direction again. :-) Hi. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Towns

2015-04-30 Thread Craig Franklin
Indeed. Unfortunately I'm just heading out so i can't waffle at length, but there are two active projects in Australia in Fremantle and Toodyay. Cheers, Craig On 01/05/2015 7:45 AM, K. Peachey wrote: I believe Wikimedia AU did some work with this type of stuff… On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-15 Thread Craig Franklin
this particular egg, as relocating now would probably end up costing more than would be saved by moving to a lower cost centre, which is unfortunate. Regards, Craig Franklin On 10 April 2015 at 01:47, Garfield Byrd wrote: Hi Fae, We have 215 staff in total, with a hub of activity

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-04-05 Thread Craig Franklin
Hello, Might I suggest that if folks want to continue talking about this, they rename this thread, as it is no longer about Kourosh Karimkhany, and it is just creating background noise for those of us who have no desire to discuss the whole Wikipedia Zero freedom thing yet again? Cheers, Craig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Craig Franklin
I think this is dancing around the perceived problem. You can either have open, democratic, and fair elections with a result that represents the will of the electorate, or you can have a group of people who are diverse in terms of nationality, gender, ethnicity, etcetera. Not both. And I don't

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