Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-13 Thread Dan Szymborski
This is largely my feeling as well. If you look at one of Andrew's links: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review/brainstorm You'll see some quite vigorous opposition to the name change and robust support for explicitly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Dan Szymborski
Given the typical response rate for polling is extremely low, even among groups of people who agreed to be polled, the 20% metric is absurd. If you put out some random notice among a million other emails to 9,000 people on various lists submitting a proposition to change the name to Fart Factory

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread Dan Szymborski
I'm not sure I could design a process more guaranteed to result in complete resistance from the community if I tried. It's gobsmacking that far more effort was made on putting together a nice little junket to Tunisia than any sort of effort to seek community-buy-in. The working groups had

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Wikimedia-movement apolitical?

2020-04-29 Thread Dan Szymborski
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:00 AM Bill Takatoshi > wrote: > > > And again, I doubt even 5% of the long term editor base is opposed to > > campaign finance reform > > > I doubt even 5% of the long term editor base has any opinion on this > “campaign finance

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Preparing for feedback on naming convention proposals

2020-05-02 Thread Dan Szymborski
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:25 AM Samir Elsharbaty wrote: > The 2030 Movement Brand Project is now moving into Phase 2: naming > convention proposals [1]. This is the most anticipated phase of this > project. It will ask the movement to evaluate which proposal(s) best > communicate who we are so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Wikimedia-movement apolitical?

2020-05-03 Thread Dan Szymborski
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:18 PM James Salsman wrote: > > "Wikipedia should support any political movement that makes > > people's lives better because they will then have more time to edit > > Wikipedia," is an incredibly dubious line of reasoning. It would > literally > > cover anything in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Update on Branding

2020-06-22 Thread Dan Szymborski
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 12:26 PM Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > Hi Gnangarra > > I find your request for Nat to resign uncalled for…. and not in the least > because of the common misconception you have with regards to the role of > Board members of the Wikimedia Foundation. > > > Resigning is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Brand Project] Rescheduling Naming Convention Proposal community review

2020-06-21 Thread Dan Szymborski
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 6:58 PM Zack McCune wrote: > Hi GerardM, > > Indeed! > > > As I mentioned in my earlier message, the process will be multilingual. We > want to ensure that as many people as possible from across the movement > have the opportunity to participate, so we are working hard to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: next steps

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Szymborski
Question about the timeline: will the community's opinions be ignored at the July or at the August meeting? Or is this considered a continual process? This information would help people with their planning. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:37 PM Zack McCune wrote: > Dear all, > > We want to confirm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: next steps

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Szymborski
A survey in which the board's decision cannot possibly be disputed sounds like a perfect fit rather than an unfit one. On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:35 AM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > It is not methodologically sound to continue using a survey which is unfit > for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Update on Branding

2020-06-22 Thread Dan Szymborski
OK, you say that you take "full responsibility" for the situation. What exactly does "full responsibility" entail? How will the relations between the board and the communities differ compared to the moment *before* full responsibility was taken? Is the board changing the degree to which it will