Re: [Wikimedia-l] Human-assisted machine translation (it was: The case for supporting open source machine translation)

2013-05-01 Thread David Cuenca
From what I read, Apertium also supports morphological analyzers (like: [1], [2] and [3]). I used the term word because it is more approachable for a first stage development. Later on it could be expanded to support languages that don't use words. In any case I think it is preferable to assist MT

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread David Cuenca
Hi Achal, For those cases there is a Wikisource clone called Wikilivres, whose server is in Canada and it is operated by a Canadian citizen. http://wikilivres.ca/ It is not very fast, but it serves as storage for such cases since the Canadian copyright law is quite permissive in that regard (50

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread David Cuenca
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.comwrote: This looks great, and I was wondering if the last point on the list (working with other entities) also includes finding a way to placehold works that have gone out of copyright in other countries, and are hosted on,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Flow Portal(s)

2013-05-16 Thread David Cuenca
Hi Brandon, Thanks for the announce and also for the effort of letting the door open for suggestions and feedback. I regard Flow as an excellent tool for centralizing all communications in one spot and I really hope user involvement is as high as this tool would deserve. So far the test page

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Somebody Will

2013-06-03 Thread David Cuenca
Hi Sumana, The interpretation could be better, the melody could be merrier, and still, I liked the lyrics. Thanks for sharing! Seeing this I wonder if it would be possible for the WM movement to gain more presence, or better said, some presence in the cultural creation world. For instance, if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

2013-06-18 Thread David Cuenca
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: The base fact figures for sv:wp is Increase of views +23% on yearly basis, WM:DE +3, WMF:Fr +8 (all mature wikipediauser communities), nl with +14 and wm:it with +16 also very good figures (Spain Russia, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy

2013-06-18 Thread David Cuenca
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote: [...] These 'Economy of X' are designed for laypersons to see the economic reality of the world. So it could be considered a set of articles for http://simple.wikipedia.org? Cheers, Micru

[Wikimedia-l] Impressions from LODLAM 2013

2013-06-21 Thread David Cuenca
Maybe also relevant for this list. -- Forwarded message -- From: David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:47 AM Subject: Impressions from LODLAM 2013 To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org, Discussion list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Erik Zachte on bot-generated articles

2013-06-23 Thread David Cuenca
Maybe better when the human generated content is greater than the one originally added by the bot. Otherwise I can imagine someone adding one comma to each article just to make it show up in the stats... Cheers, Micru On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Per A.J. Andersson p...@telia.com wrote:

[Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process

2013-07-16 Thread David Cuenca
I've seen that there is a new Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process

2013-07-16 Thread David Cuenca
, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: David Cuenca, 16/07/2013 22:29: I've seen that there is a new Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should

[Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful

2013-07-16 Thread David Cuenca
Hi! This morning I presented a submission (if you can call it that...) for a Wikivoyage logo... actually it flies and it's alive :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Logo_2013/Submissions#Option_19_-_Snake_on_a_magic_towel It promised not to eat Rory nor Tux... yet :) If only someone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful

2013-07-16 Thread David Cuenca
I knew it! Not even a day and the Wicked Towel Organization already complaining! On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: I've had enough with these snakes on my magic towel... . ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-17 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: That'd be easy to solve were it not for the fact that - on enwp at least - TOR has been (and is being) used almost exclusively for block evasion and vandalism. Interestingly enough(?), our desire for transparency and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process

2013-07-19 Thread David Cuenca
Yaroslav, If the SPCom is not yet a WMF committee, what is the status? Who is expected to take action? Micru On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: On 17.07.2013 07:03, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: David Cuenca, 17/07/2013 00:36: Thanks for pointing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-22 Thread David Cuenca
It seems there was a problem in what the definition of success is. For the WMF success was to deploy the VE according to the plan and budget and to reach certain usage percentage. For the community it was a different kind of metric, maybe a more thoroughly tested product or a slower and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-23 Thread David Cuenca
Thanks, James, for the flexibility that you are showing here. I think the Visual Editor is already great and it will become even better after polishing it.I am committed to test it as much as I can and to send some proposals. That haters can disable it completely will leave more room for

[Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-24 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I think your anti-Americanism is misplaced. Let's look at some of the key people involved in the VisualEditor project. Erik is German, James F is British, Roan Kattouw is Dutch, Timo Tijhof is Dutch. If you were to skim the list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-24 Thread David Cuenca
doesn't help in creating an international work environement. Micru On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:44 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: I don't agree with Romaine's view that it is a cultural problem, but it is true

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-24 Thread David Cuenca
Nathan, you are wrong in shifting to me the burden of proof. The budget states that there are rising costs associated with the current location. That doesn't mean that the slots are going unfulfilled, it is always possible to raise salaries or import workers. But is this the best strategy? Have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Progress...

2013-07-26 Thread David Cuenca
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.netwrote: If systemic biased editing is not considered your statement would be true. However, one of the side effects of our volunteeristic methods is that systemic bias resulting from editing by groups and interests with

[Wikimedia-l] Collaborative machine translation for Wikipedia -- proposed strategy

2013-07-26 Thread David Cuenca
After Erik's email about supporting open source machine translation [1], I've been researching options and having talks with several machine translation researchers about what would be the best way to integrate MT into Wikipedia. Unfortunately I couldn't find a single solution that, on its own,

[Wikimedia-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata

2013-08-08 Thread David Cuenca
wiktionar...@lists.wikimedia.orgHi, If there is someone in Wikimania interested in participating in the talks about the future support of Wiktionary in Wikidata, we will having a discussion about the several proposals. http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Support_of_Wiktionary_in_Wikidata

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata

2013-08-10 Thread David Cuenca
To add up a couple of comments to what Denny said, from my experience with Wikisource, reaching out to international, loosely connected communities is already a big challenge on its own. I would like to invite Wiktionary contributors to take a look to this Individual Engagement Grant project that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-13 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: [...] It might lead to a glorious future, where we really create an open source system that allows everyone to write in every language and express a wide range of human thought. As much as I love this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-22 Thread David Cuenca
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: As with so many things, it will be hard to assess cost/benefits without making some effort. A safe bet could be to try with an existing pair or develop a pair with an estimated high demand. Is there a pair where some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread David Cuenca
to cover will fall in the latter group, not in the first two. 2013/8/23 David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: As with so many things, it will be hard to assess cost/benefits without making some effort. A safe bet could

[Wikimedia-l] Questions about the login

2013-08-31 Thread David Cuenca
1) Is there any way to know if I have other sessions open and close them (like in Gmail)? I used another computer and I don't remember if Iogged out. 2) Why when I go to the Watchlist or any other page requiring to be logged in, I am not redirected to the login screen? Maybe there is a hidden

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions about the login

2013-08-31 Thread David Cuenca
AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Is there any way to know if I have other sessions open and close them (like in Gmail)? I used another computer and I don't remember if Iogged out. Not yet. There is an extension Extension:SecureSessions that implements this, and hopefully

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

2013-10-26 Thread David Cuenca
Hi Jake! How are you doing? I just tried your game and I found a bug after earning the first badge. I was supposed to do an edit with italics and bolding, the think is that I already had bolded text in my profile, so I just saved without editing. The interface prompted me You Added bold, italics,

[Wikimedia-l] Preparing a proofreading contest for Wikisource's 10th aniversary

2013-11-06 Thread David Cuenca
On the Wikisource mailing list we are discussing about a contest to celebrate Wikisource's 10th aniversary. The contest would be from Nov 24th till Dec 1st. During that time the participants would proofread a selection of books and they would get points per page. The one with the most points

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A five-minute task new volunteers can do

2013-12-03 Thread David Cuenca
Good to know that Commons is developing its own mini-Wikisource :) Cheers, Micru On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote: I've just blogged about a five-minute task new volunteers can do:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How lovely live communication works worldwide

2013-12-03 Thread David Cuenca
Maybe try this one? http://videoconf.wikimedia.ch/ Cheers, Micru On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com wrote: Somehow, I don't know how we get that happen, almost every time we use live communication to communicate about projects to enrich and improve the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How lovely live communication works worldwide

2013-12-03 Thread David Cuenca
* Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48 2013/12/3 David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com Maybe try this one? http://videoconf.wikimedia.ch/ Cheers, Micru On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-11 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:37 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Has there been any discussion about simply accepting Bitcoins but not exchanging them? snip I don't have a strong opinion on whether WMF should or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: URGENT call for geographical diversity in Wikimedia @ GSoC

2014-03-13 Thread David Cuenca
I would suggest blogging about GsoC and maybe posting about it on the wp discussion pages. There is only one week left! On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear Wikimedia contributors, please help spreading this call for Google Summer of Code candidates in your

[Wikimedia-l] OpenStreetMap iD editor usability study: Looking for test persons

2014-03-22 Thread David Cuenca
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jan B antof...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:15 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] iD usability study: Looking for test persons To: t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, I want to inform you of a usability study of the iD editor that I'm currently planning to

[Wikimedia-l] RFC on page namespaces managment (feedback needed, help too)

2014-05-01 Thread David Cuenca
Hi, Thanks to all who have submitted their comments on the proposed page namespace association handling and the necessary database schemas: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Associated_namespaces

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you!

2014-05-02 Thread David Cuenca
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: I've been warned that joining the Wikimedia movement is a bit like drinking from a firehose, and so I'd consider myself, right now, to be excited, curious, optimistic, and just a tiny little bit daunted. Actually it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-08 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: In highly structured databases, adding properties that may be useful for your research and the work of others would require altering the structure itself, like adding a field, for example. That isn't easy, because the powers

[Wikimedia-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-15 Thread David Cuenca
Hi, During the Zürich Hackathon I met several people that looked for solutions about how to integrate external open datasets into our projects (mainly Wikipedia, Wikidata). Since Wikidata is not the right tool to manage them (reasons explained in the RFC as discussed during the Wikidata session),

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-15 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the pointer, How can I put this open data on Wikidata is a question that I have been asked many times, this page was needed. Thanks for your comment! On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Samuel Klein

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-15 Thread David Cuenca
, this is generally not an issue, but how do you see this with data that can be manipulated? I don't really see how you can upload datasets as whole blobs that will keep all the pieces together the way a .djvu file keeps the text with the images. Jane 2014-05-15 16:46 GMT+02:00, David Cuenca dacu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-15 Thread David Cuenca
. But am I correct in thinking that you asked the question primarily out of a desire to think about how we could use externally managed data sets? -Robert Rohde On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:25 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, During the Zürich Hackathon I met several people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-16 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: Definitely agree that we needed something like this. There's a lot of confusion about what Wikidata is for, and what is and isn't appropriate for it - both from outsiders and from within the Wikimedia community. I've

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Search (it was Commons' frontpage...)

2014-05-16 Thread David Cuenca
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.comwrote: A quick visit to stats.grok.se indicates that the Search feature of English Wikipedia was used 63 million times last month [...] Long time ago I played around with the idea that our endeavor for free knowledge would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Search (it was Commons' frontpage...)

2014-05-16 Thread David Cuenca
have this enabled by adding one line to common.js Thanks, GerardM On 16 May 2014 11:46, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: A quick visit to stats.grok.se indicates that the Search feature

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-16 Thread David Cuenca
the minimum for the upload wizard). Wikidata can help with the template fields as properties. Jane 2014-05-15 18:14 GMT+02:00, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com: Jane, Thanks for your input! I never thought as datasets as incorporating images, but just as a table (whose elements might

[Wikimedia-l] Dealing with GLAM data (it was: How to deal with open datasets?)

2014-05-16 Thread David Cuenca
the artwork template - you can use the fields or not, as long as you include the minimum for the upload wizard). Wikidata can help with the template fields as properties. Jane 2014-05-15 18:14 GMT+02:00, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com: Jane, Thanks for your input! I never thought

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Search (it was Commons' frontpage...)

2014-05-16 Thread David Cuenca
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Portals like wikiwix.com and http://search.creativecommons.org have existed for a long time, but soon they'll be able to get much more from Wikimedia projects (after some more CirrusSearch deploys and Wikidata data

[Wikimedia-l] Task-oriented mailing lists

2014-05-20 Thread David Cuenca
Hi, this year in a Gsoc project, following a proposal by the student, we are using a dedicated mailing list for his project. I think it is a great solution because: - interested people can follow the project without bothering usual mailing lists - the evolution of the project is recorded and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-renewal of Wikimedia UK fundraiser agreement

2014-05-21 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Ok, but did anyone in the world really believe for a second that WMF was ever going to change their mind after they managed to centralise UK income in WMF bank accounts? Sometimes it is better to take a step back

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC recommendation round 2 announced

2014-05-26 Thread David Cuenca
After reading the report I really hope that the FDC continues prospering and growing. There are very insightful recommendations to be found there and I hope they are put into practice. I also think that this kind of report reinforces and shows in full splendor the spirit of community

[Wikimedia-l] Today I became member of WMDE

2014-05-28 Thread David Cuenca
Till now I had mixed feelings on the nature of Wikimedia Deutschland. On the one hand, I was (and I am) very thankful for creating one of the projects I'm active with, Wikidata, and supporting the one I most attached to, Wikisource. On the other hand, I was wary of its professionalization process

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-28 Thread David Cuenca
Wil, I have been following the conversation and I can feel your good-hearted nature. Please do not be offended when they say wait to you. They mean no harm to you, just the opposite. I know how frustrating it is to have to wait, because all of us have gone through the same... Just to give you an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread David Cuenca
A question to Yana et al.: Is there any reason for the WMF to promote/sign Zero agreements instead of the local chapters/user groups? I mean, if that ability was subsidized to the chapters we could have a different strategy depending on the country, because: - in some places the benefits of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: How would an affiliate have the ability to sign any agreements for the delivery of WMF content? The agreements cover access to WMF-owned websites. I can see local affiliates being helpful with translation, advice and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot now starting with plant species

2014-06-16 Thread David Cuenca
It would be interesting to know what needs to be improved, so... what prevented you of using the data? And from which different perspectives? Cheers, Micru On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: we have now spent one year trying to use Wikidata

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot now starting with plant species

2014-06-16 Thread David Cuenca
of articles to Wikidata which our botefforts requires (where you need to be 100% sure of the quality and be able to correct these automatically if problems) Anders David Cuenca skrev 2014-06-16 15:40: It would be interesting to know what needs to be improved, so... what prevented you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata // was The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-18 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: At the current time, I have yet to see how the Wikidata theoretical use improves finding images on Commons today. After regularly getting emails over the past two years raising expectations of how these problems will be solved

[Wikimedia-l] Rethinking Commons paradigms with Wikidata // was The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-19 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: In the meantime, it might be an idea for folks to avoid claiming that any issue that pops up on Commons can be solved in Wikidata, unless they can produce a working case study rather than discussion about proposals. One of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rethinking Commons paradigms with Wikidata // was The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-19 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Though I like the IMSLP approach, I still like the totally free format of Commons galleries, and many categories have more than one gallery, so a standard approach may not work well. I do think WikiData can help with image

[Wikimedia-l] Interesting comment system for Wikipedia

2014-06-20 Thread David Cuenca
Hi, I really liked the way the comments are implemented on this website https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/5e7ed624986d Basically the comments are associated to each paragraph, and a little number appears next to it. When clicking it, it displays the comments. I can imagine that it would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interesting comment system for Wikipedia

2014-06-20 Thread David Cuenca
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Feature_map#1._Ratings_and_Reviews https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46440 The difference with the OKFN annotation tool is the way of presenting the number of comments.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interesting comment system for Wikipedia

2014-06-20 Thread David Cuenca
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Markus Glaser markus.gla...@wikimedia.de wrote: There's already a similar implementation for MediaWiki. It's basically a modification of Extension:Comments and it allows to associate comments with sections. You can see it live at WebPlatform.org [1]. And that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interesting comment system for Wikipedia

2014-06-20 Thread David Cuenca
Perhaps also relevant: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/washington-post-new-york-times-and-mozilla-team-up-for-new-web-site-comment-system/2014/06/19/fa836e90-f71e-11e3-8aa9-dad2ec039789_story.html?hpid=z3 On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rethinking Commons paradigms with Wikidata // was The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-20 Thread David Cuenca
Which btw is open source http://levan.cs.washington.edu/ngrams/README.txt On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 7:42 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: And all this about structured data gets even more interesting when you combine it with machine learning, like in LEVAN https://www.youtube.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interesting comment system for Wikipedia

2014-06-21 Thread David Cuenca
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:19 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: This isn't to say that this new endeavor is focusing on an easy problem or a problem that doesn't need additional attention. Global communication is a very tough nut to crack, without a doubt. But it feels like some of these

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rethinking Commons paradigms with Wikidata // was The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-22 Thread David Cuenca
An example of a crowd-sourced tagger: http://tagger.thepcf.org.uk/tutorial/ Something similar could be thought for Commons if the property depicts were available. On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 7:48 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Which btw is open source http://levan.cs.washington.edu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling

2014-06-26 Thread David Cuenca
Erik (and others), is there any coordination page where groups could place, take, or discuss requests for development or requests for maintenance? I saw often that sometimes the hard-to-achieve consensus is found, but there is no way to evaluate the idea further. What now happens is: - several

[Wikimedia-l] Great editor for Wikipedia infoboxes/templates connected to Wikidata

2014-08-09 Thread David Cuenca
User:Vlsergey from ruwiki presented yesterday at the Wikidata Meetup a new wonderful infobox editor for Wikipedia infoboxes: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Edit_directly_from_infocard_.2F_infobox And also an improved authority template which you can see in action at Obama

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-14 Thread David Cuenca
Erik, I'm impartial about the mediaviewer, but I have the feeling that this is a recurring a pattern: 1) contributors ask for some change to improve their experience or the reader's experience 2) their request is ignored because either it doesn't fit in the big picture, or there is no mechanism

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-14 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: A pattern we see over and over is that the developers talk at length about what they're working on in several venues, then it's released and people claiming to speak for the community claim they were not adequately

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: how should this be solved? To me it's saying that no matter who is informed, the WMF can never expect that their work won't be overruled. That is problematic (regardless of who has the final authority) A

[Wikimedia-l] Email from tccgrp, is this legit?

2014-08-18 Thread David Cuenca
Hi, I received an unsolicited email stating that In collaboration with the global Wikimedia community, we are working with the Wikimedia Foundation to help movement organizations understand how they have an impact and asking me to fill out a survey. However there are no references about which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Email from tccgrp, is this legit?

2014-08-18 Thread David Cuenca
them feedback! On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I received an unsolicited email stating that In collaboration with the global Wikimedia community, we are working with the Wikimedia Foundation to help movement organizations understand how

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-19 Thread David Cuenca
I think those are wonderful steps and I really hope that the German wikipedians are ready for dialogue. Given the big number of people that might want to answer Lila's questions, shouldn't they be asked in a more public page, or organized in a more international/multilingual way, for a delimited

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-24 Thread David Cuenca
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:38 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Pi zero at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/9622503 writes, The non-Wikipedian sisters are the growth sector of the wikimedian movement, and the WMF by dissing them is strangling the wikimedian movement's

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

2014-09-12 Thread David Cuenca
Hi, It is nice that there are several official blogs. However it is hard to navigate from blog to blog to discover what is going on at each chapter. Would it make sense to link to all official blogs from http://blog.wikimedia.org/ ? Cheers, Micru ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

2014-09-12 Thread David Cuenca
for its contents.* On 12 September 2014 13:00, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It is nice that there are several official blogs. However it is hard to navigate from blog to blog to discover what is going on at each chapter. Would it make sense to link to all official blogs from

[Wikimedia-l] Experiences with community living?

2015-02-14 Thread David Cuenca
Hei ;) These last months I have been visiting and living in several intentional communities to learn and understand what works for me and what doesn't. If done right, it is a great environment to have a simple life full of joy and happiness. I was wondering if anyone else in the WM movement is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing Inspire Campaign Grantees

2015-05-02 Thread David Cuenca
Liam, that is true, originally I submitted an idea because of the specific topic of the campaign, which later on evolved into a more generic project which could potentially address other kind of issues. BUT, without the original hook, perhaps I would have never submitted anything. I hope the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Involved people matter; and some hot topics (was: Community health (retitled thread))

2015-06-04 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Milos, thanks for your long email because it highlights some problems I mentioned already in another long email (Building a we in the wikimedia movement). It is in fact hard to deal with social systems, but nevertheless important if we want the movement to survive to itself. The greatest enemy are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

2015-06-06 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Congratulations to the winners! However I must say that the results of this election are hilarious. The person with the most support votes doesn't win because of oppose votes :D El sáb., 6 de jun. de 2015 3:22, Johan Jönsson brevlis...@gmail.com escribió: Congratulations, Dariusz, James and

[Wikimedia-l] Is Phabricator appropriate for managing non-coding projects?

2015-06-04 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi, I am looking for a space where I can set up projects like: - clean up a wiki category - set up book scanning tasks - track a survey stages (planning, translation, ad, analysis, etc) Is phabricator a good place for that? I guess that with appropriate project/subproject separation then the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group

2015-05-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Congratulations, new user group members! On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North Carolina Triangle

[Wikimedia-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

2015-05-29 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Dear all, I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects about the organizational future of User Groups. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ew8cVJhqqenGUAVVaTQqkisyPyd1tSX-zbVfi-Uuo8U/edit?usp=sharing Cheers, Micru ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Survey: What do you think of our social media feeds?

2015-05-29 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Thanks for the initiative! Micru El vie., 29 de may. de 2015 8:53, Hasive Chowdhury nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd escribió: Just complete the survey. Nice initiative. -Hasive WMBD On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 28 May 2015 at 20:57,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmcon15] Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

2015-05-30 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
. I would be happy to advise on some of the proposed ideas if there are people interested in leading them. A. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:04 AM, David Cuenca Tudela dacu...@gmail.com wrote: ​ Dear all, I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmcon15] Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

2015-06-02 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: could you pleas share that on Meta? On 30 May 2015 at 06:13, David Cuenca Tudela dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Asaf and Juan Bautista, Thanks a lot for your comments, I am glad to have some feedback on these ideas that were discussed during the WMCON

[Wikimedia-l] Building a we in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
During this Wikimedia Conference 2015 there was a paradigm shift in the way problems are expressed. It was highlighted that the wikimedia movement is not only about gathering and sharing knowledge, but also about the people behind it, about finding ways to enhance the togetherness that is created

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a we in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:22 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I don't know how you're going to shoehorn we into Wikimedia movement. I guess, similar to putting the me in team, it will require transposing letters? Or perhaps dropping letters altogether (since we[!] already have a W and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a we in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: How can we [l]itigate against this, while making our projects more social? Hi Andy, regarding your question I guess there is no definite answer, perhaps it is something inherent to social systems, so in a way there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a we in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I third that! However we are entering the field of privacy, because as useful the virtual meetings can be, they might be intrusive if you are in your home and you show your whole house to the world. As long as people are happy about that, then I do not see any problem in increasing the number of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On > Behalf Of Ed Saperia > Sent: Friday, 26 February 2016 10:51 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization > > A Wikimedia monastery! ^_^ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 26 Feb 2016, at 08:39, David Cuenc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I think there are more ways of supporting volunteers than just paying them cash. For instance another option could be to offer them a place to stay, food and healthcare. That is how many volunteer programs work, like workaway or woofing, and I don't see anything wrong with it. Would it be an

[Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-02-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I am starting a new thread because I disagree with the idea that the WMF should be a high-tech organization as the other thread by Brion seemed to suggest. Yes, technology is a tool that we use in our mission to gather and process all forms of human knowledge, but in the end the driving force is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-02-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
directly? Cheers Micru On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > David, you appear to be agreeing strongly with me, not disagreeing. :) > > -- brion > > On Sunday, February 28, 2016, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> > wrote: &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-02-29 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
James, I think it is very nice to put measures against paid editing, but it would be nicer to put measures to get editors more free time to edit voluntarily... There are not that many suggestions on how to do it, so it could be that it cannot be done. Cheers, Micru On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:14

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-03-01 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
for its users and administrators across all its projects, > and purge all rogue editors (along with their self serving > so-called""community" policies) who are damaging the credibility of > its projects, including through paid editing. > > David > > [1] > http://www.bus

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