Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia

2013-02-08 Thread Jane Darnell
...without the necessity of going through unnecessary legal fees in using the patented concept without the consent of... - Is that a copyvio? * See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll 2013/2/8, Fae faewik+comm...@gmail.com: On 8 February 2013 10:22, David Richfield

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] FOP in Europe: does this include WWII monuments with art?

2013-03-02 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks for sharing! If I browse the categories here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Monuments_and_memorials_of_World_War_II_by_country It seems there are plenty of photos with what appears to be sculptures. I guess the risk of being slapped with a copyright violation in these cases is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] FOP in Europe: does this include WWII monuments with art?

2013-03-03 Thread Jane Darnell
After discussing this issue with the daughter of a Dutch WWII veteran (yes, she's old!) I have come to the conclusion that the logic for handling photos of artwork on Dutch WWII memorials should follow the same rationale as this one:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement *please read*

2013-03-28 Thread Jane Darnell
That's big news. I agree with Jan-Bart, Phoebe (thanks for the laugh), Manuel, and Isarra. In my own editor's corner of Wikipedia, I have increasingly come up against the limits of Wikipedia against international copyright law on the one hand, and the inability to express my concerns in 160 bytes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Adopt a page

2013-03-30 Thread Jane Darnell
As a fundraising tactic, I think this is a good idea, but it is hard to define and put a price on it. I would guess you would charge more to sponsor high-profile articles, the way a parks commission can advertise donor names on park benches, where the more prominently placed ones get a higher

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map

2013-04-06 Thread Jane Darnell
Alex, This is an excellent idea, though not a project I would jump into with a mad dash. I find economic summaries very entertaining, but I would be at a loss about how to collect the data you need for my region (among other things). I think you need two things to start off with; a group of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Economy of the United States

2013-04-08 Thread Jane Darnell
Alex, Very cool, that is exactly what I meant! Now you need to offer team members the red links to work on. You do this by linking out from your overview page to the subpages. I did one example for [[Finance and insurance (industry)|Finance and insurance]]. I see that we already have a redirect

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map

2013-04-08 Thread Jane Darnell
Mathieu, I just watched a Dutch documentary about this same issue last week. The main gist of the documentary is that the corporations avoid taxes in a structured way: they go to tax havens or take advantage of economic arrangements where the the first five years of residence are tax free in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Jane Darnell
Perhaps you could just imitate the QRpedia model, which says, this article is not available in your default language, and serve up links to the languages it *IS* available in. After all, presence on Wikidata means presence on *at least one Wikipedia*, if I'm not mistaken. 2013/4/25, Erik Moeller

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Jane Darnell
them 2013/4/26, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Jane Darnell, 26/04/2013 08:52: Perhaps you could just imitate the QRpedia model, which says, this article is not available in your default language, and serve up links to the languages it *IS* available in. This should definitely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-26 Thread Jane Darnell
We already have the translation options on the left side of the screen in any Wikipedia article. This choice is generally a smattering of languages, and a long term goal for many small-language Wikipedias is to be able to translate an article from related languages (say from Dutch into Frisian,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Jane Darnell
I can sympathize with the issue, namely, that it would be nice if only Foundation employees could be allowed admin access on their own wiki. I recall a similar issue (which was not so widely blown up) for our WMNL board wiki in the Netherlands (and yes Phoebe, that is a very boring wiki). I find

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is anyone motivated to lead a study/projet to integrate a Tatoeba-like project within Mediawiki

2013-05-18 Thread Jane Darnell
I noticed that on Commons, there is a need for sentence fragments, such as Portrait of a woman facing left at three-quarter length Though whole sentences is a major step towards machine translation, sentence fragments might be more practical for multi-lingual project endeavors such as Wikidata

Re: [Wikimedia-l] evaluation of electronics articles

2013-05-29 Thread Jane Darnell
I know you are all assuming while reading this thread that the situation is much better in humanities subjects such as biographies of 17th-century artists, but strangely, you could say that it's about the same, because the emphasis (through the centuries) there is often based on opinions formed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hacking Brussels: 1st EU Policy Monitoring Report (May)

2013-05-29 Thread Jane Darnell
Why does this thread start with Hacking Brussels instead of Keep Wikipedia free to read and re-use for all IPs in EU countries? Also you might want to link out to a page explaining zero access, because that sounds like no access 2013/5/29, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Recognition of Amical Wikimedia

2013-06-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Congrats to the Catalan army! I became a fan during the Teylers project last year and have noticed since then that they are particularly good at GLAM projects. I think part of their success is based on their ca-wikipedia though, because European countries without a specific language-pedia never

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this

2013-06-19 Thread Jane Darnell
Hi Alex, I sense some frustration here. I think what you are doing is brave and needed, and you could probably use some help. The pages on economics and economics policy are some of the most neglected on Wikipedia (that and plastics and ..., but let's not go into a whole list of neglected topics,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!

2013-06-19 Thread Jane Darnell
The problem with static offline versions of Wikipedia is that it doesn't allow any interaction at all, so you are virtually cutting off the ability of the reader to become an editor. I am sure many people will feel that prisoners probably don't have a lot of positive information to contribute, or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Erik Zachte on bot-generated articles

2013-06-23 Thread Jane Darnell
I totally agree (disclaimer: I don't have a bot, but I have been actively flooding the engish wikipedia with artist stubs for years, and have used municipality stubs created by bots to anchor their hometowns, working places, and death towns) 2013/6/23, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: tl;dr he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Erik Zachte on bot-generated articles

2013-06-28 Thread Jane Darnell
In the Dutch Wikipedia they are called beginnings 2013/6/28, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: I learnt yesterday that the Welsh Wicipedia does not have 'stubs'. It has 'Little Acorns' - so much nicer and more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-27 Thread Jane Darnell
I have tried and failed to use the Visual Editor several times in the past few weeks, and as with all new technologies, I consider myself a follower rather than a leader, so I was very interested to look up the Dutch feedback that Romaine was reporting. One of the comments was that it was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-27 Thread Jane Darnell
AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I am happy to report that I just discovered what the problem is. I had turned off the Show edit toolbar option in my preferences (probably over a year ago), so I wasn't seeing the top part of the VE edit toolbar, which includes the hyperlink icon, among

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Love it! 2013/8/7, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de: I have been thinking about this for a while, and now finally managed to write it down as a proposal. Details are on meta on the following link, below is the intro to the proposal:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Actually, an offline version of WIkipedia, though useful in remote locations and for secure-internet areas like schools (or prisons), is probably not as desirable as copies of specific content, such as a Wikipedia dump of the Paleontology portal or something like that. For people who wish to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Ah, I believe these are editor's edit-measurements based on IP address, which is something quite different from base of operation. I tend to edit pages geo-located in the US when I visit those places, and I imagine many others not based in the US do the same. The same holds for all other countries

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Radiological images

2013-09-18 Thread Jane Darnell
Just chiming in here because I have uploaded some x-ray images in the past and was wondering about public domain artworks - lots of research on attribution of art is based on x-ray images, and I just assumed it was OK - uncopyrightable image of PD work 2013/9/18, Peter Southwood

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Someone wants to put their promotional photo on Wikipedia. What's best practices?

2013-10-12 Thread Jane Darnell
In the Netherlands, we have Wikiportret for promotional photos of living people It gets used pretty often On Oct 11, 2013, at 9:44 PM, David Gerard wrote: I just got a phone call and followup email today asking about how to upload a photo to be on a Wikipedia article. This has got to be an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-30 Thread Jane Darnell
Dj pundit, I second your skepticism. Especially since most Dutch Wikipedians have no idea what WMNL is, according to a survey. It only follows that they would therefore be completely buffaloed by a sitenotice inviting them to comment on a grant for it. Romaine is doing highly valuable work

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-10-31 Thread Jane Darnell
they have them, are consistent with the FDC's desire to hear from a wide range of people, which I think is appropriate and good. Thanks, Sue On Oct 30, 2013 2:37 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Jane Darnell, 30/10/2013 09:30: I second your skepticism. Especially since most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices (Tilman Bayer)

2013-11-01 Thread Jane Darnell
approved during the General Assembly of Sept 21. Regards, Frans Grijzenhout (secretary WMNL) 2013/10/31 Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org Hi Jane, On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: @Sue, I understand the idea behind doing this and applaud the idea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-12 Thread Jane Darnell
information that subjects want removed. - Jane Darnell Yes; we are working on it. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Photographs_of_identifiable_people#Undiscussed_addition and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Contact_us/Problems#Consent_Issues Jee On Thu, Dec 12

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-14 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks for that link, Phoebe! I am concerned about the issue surrounding the comment the real BLP problems happen when heavyweight (in edit count terms) Wikipedia users swing their weight around Maybe such Wikipedians have a problem with the BLP person in real life, or is closely related to some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-14 Thread Jane Darnell
Well I don't see any problem with starting off by taking a survey among OTRS users, or in trying to collect data to classify problems that are reported. Once we know what the popular problems are, can we better help stop the flow of unwanted trash-talking on BLP's. I think the underbelly that we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-14 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks Jee for those links. It strikes me as odd that on a Commons:Contact us page there is no link to any explanation about how it all works. In my (limited!) experience of helping BLP subjects, it has helped them enormously just to talk about how Wikipedia works. Sometimes they are certain that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-15 Thread Jane Darnell
Craig, Phoebe, and Yaroslav, those are all very good points. Until Google improves its image-recognition software, most photos appearing in google images are triggered by text in the image description. It should be easy to tag problematic image desriptions, especially when more people than the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-15 Thread Jane Darnell
known to Wikidata will grow a lot bigger. Thanks, GerardM On 15 December 2013 10:24, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Craig, Phoebe, and Yaroslav, those are all very good points. Until Google improves its image-recognition software, most photos appearing in google images

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The British Library releases 1 million images

2013-12-19 Thread Jane Darnell
I like the stray text around the images - it shows that the picture is from a book, rather than a separate unattached file like a photo or engraving, and the captions are necessary in most cases. The problematic images are the ones of letterheads and margin decorations, which, though perhaps

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Public Domain Day

2014-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Romaine, I was wondering about the same thing as Yaroslav. As I have understood the URAA stuff up to now, I think a work by Kandinsky (died Dec 1944) is problematic but this one for example is OK (author died in 1943, but the work is dated before 1923):

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Multimedia Vision for 2016

2014-01-17 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes, an interesting vision indeed and I like these use cases. Having read the other thread about the copyright difficulties with video codecs and I understand this vision is a long way off, but I like this short intro to keep us all on point about what we would like to see: ease of use in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

2014-01-24 Thread Jane Darnell
I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about Art Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects. With Reasonator I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-10 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes, he would definitely have enjoyed this one 2014-02-10 9:51 GMT+01:00, Leinonen Teemu teemu.leino...@aalto.fi: On 8.2.2014, at 13.51, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I love this thread - it make me think of Matti Wuori in the movie The man without a past Heh :-) These days, I also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-28 Thread Jane Darnell
This would be the more concise open letter that I think all projects could support, no? Sent from my iPad On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-02-28 7:00 GMT+05:30 geni geni...@gmail.com: Now if someone could get the US to follow the law of the shorter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-01 Thread Jane Darnell
15:38 GMT+01:00, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com: Apparently they got no response: http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2014/03/01/5137/Wikipediafailstomeetdeadlineonpolicerequest On 10 February 2014 15:41, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, he would definitely have enjoyed this one 2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-03-03 Thread Jane Darnell
This is a good idea in theory, but the tags-per-country could become endless, and I wonder who would be brave enough to upload images to such a project, as the uploader would be responsible for the freeness of the uploaded content and the associated completeness of license tags. Perhaps if you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikipedistes documentary in Catalan TV

2014-03-04 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks for posting - I loved the documentary! For me the most obvious difference between the groups shown in your various meetings and the get-togethers we have in the Netherlands is the age of the participants. I think we in WMNL attract a lot more gray hair than you do. I think it would be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding programs for individuals.

2014-03-04 Thread Jane Darnell
I just found this link serendipitously while asking for help at the village pump in order to translate the IEG grant process pages into Dutch: https://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Financi%C3%ABle_Ondersteuning_Kleine_Activiteiten I knew we had the Support small projects program within WMNL,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding programs for individuals.

2014-03-04 Thread Jane Darnell
Um, definitely a +1 for claiming NemoFind as official WMF trademark btw 2014-03-04 9:55 GMT+01:00, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: I just found this link serendipitously while asking for help at the village pump in order to translate the IEG grant process pages into Dutch: https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board Wikimedia Nederland

2014-04-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Frans, Congratulations on your new role and I wish you and your team of boardmembers all the best, Jane 2014-04-07 22:26 GMT+02:00, Frans Grijzenhout fr...@wikimedia.nl: It is with great pleasure that I present to you the new board of Wikimedia Netherlands (WMNL). During our General Assembly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-08 Thread Jane Darnell
Gerard, I think you mean There are organisations that want to share CC-0 information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share CC-0 information under a CC-by license. We are fine with organizations sharing CC-by information under a CC-by license, no? O and I agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you!

2014-05-02 Thread Jane Darnell
Lila, What Pine said, and David, I was thinking of responding to the same quote, but your response says it so much better than I could! Thanks for posting the link and I can't agree with you more (at times on Wikipedia I act like one of the football players, but of course most of the time I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sue exit interview

2014-05-09 Thread Jane Darnell
done 2014-05-09 7:35 GMT+02:00, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com: Hi. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_exit_interview/Sue_Gardner is accepting questions until 23 May 2014, 12:01 UTC. Passing along institutional memory is important, so please participate! MZMcBride

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-15 Thread Jane Darnell
David, This is an interesting question. I think that a dataset is just like any other table such as the ones included in Wikipedia, with lots more entries and maybe even pieces attached that can't go on Wikipedia such as pictures, audio, short films, pieces of software code, or other media. So I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-16 Thread Jane Darnell
), then it is easy to keep the whole dataset together, you just need to consider it a text file, and then you upload a new one, like any other file in Commons :) Micru On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: David, This is an interesting question. I think that a dataset

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dealing with GLAM data (it was: How to deal with open datasets?)

2014-05-16 Thread Jane Darnell
, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: David, This is an interesting question. I think that a dataset is just like any other table such as the ones included in Wikipedia, with lots more entries and maybe even pieces attached that can't go on Wikipedia such as pictures, audio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-28 Thread Jane Darnell
What I think is funny about this whole article and this email thread is that the quality of Wikipedia is not brought into relation with anything else. For example, I know that one of the main causes of death in the Netherlands today has to do with improper dosages of medicine, caused both by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase participation

2014-06-01 Thread Jane Darnell
Of course I am just a sample of one, but in my personal circle of female friends, most of them only interact with a smartphone or tablet and though they may own a full-fledged computer, they only interact with that machine for certain boring and obligatory tasks such as filing taxes and printing.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase participation

2014-06-01 Thread Jane Darnell
. If anything, the fact that more women own any such equipment only goes to reinforce what we already know, which is that not many girls/ women are taking part in editing the Wikipedia. Rui 2014-06-01 9:30 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: Of course I am just a sample of one, but in my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase participation

2014-06-01 Thread Jane Darnell
the WP. And no, I have never edited on an iPad - why should I, if I work on as big a screen as I can get that is still small enough to pack into a travel bakpack? ;-) Rui 2014-06-01 20:47 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: I'll bet you have never tried to edit Wikipedia on an iPad

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread Jane Darnell
Nemo, thanks for that - it really made me laugh. Jane On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking twice is nice and that's what mailman moderation is about. Just for this month we could half the soft quota (https://meta.wikimedia.org/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rethinking Commons paradigms with Wikidata // was The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-19 Thread Jane Darnell
Though I like the IMSLP approach, I still like the totally free format of Commons galleries, and many categories have more than one gallery, so a standard approach may not work well. I do think WikiData can help with image navigation somehow, but I am just not sure how. As I understood Lua, this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lets delete everything from commons (was The tragedy of Commons)

2014-06-22 Thread Jane Darnell
Well I am not an admin, but as on all other projects, you must play by the rules. I noticed the deletion notice for your letter claimed it was a derivative work, implying that the file was uploaded as artwork. It either included a logo letterhead that has not previously been uploaded (see [1]) or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)

2014-07-12 Thread Jane Darnell
Magnus - another great tool, thanks! I just noticed that somewhere someone made an article for something just down the street from me. I guess I should go take a picture of it now! Jane On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Until then...

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Jane Darnell
I am interested in community strategy to tackle such things as 1) exposing missing, confusing, or outdated local policies by using policy comparisons cross-wiki 2) handling multi-language issues such as highlighting article-for-deletion discussions for each language in which the article exists,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Jane Darnell
Well maybe all of you are independently wealthy, have laptop and and will travel, but as I see it, for the rest of us, without travel budget facilitated by WMF and chapters, I don't see how we can achieve meetups to do any brainstorming at all. And poring over lists of ideas tucked away in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Catching copy and pasting early

2014-07-21 Thread Jane Darnell
Isn't that what Corenbot does/did? I always found it very confusing though whenever I ran into it, and the false positives are huge (so many sites copy Wikimedia content these days) On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: It should be relatively easy to catch a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-26 Thread Jane Darnell
I have seen good results with the thank feature. It is easy to use and seems appreciated. When thanked users write to me in response, I have noticed that a specific and neutral I read your edits about xyz and appreciate them seems to be more likely to encourage more edits about xyz rather than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-28 Thread Jane Darnell
I agree with Gerard, and would add that a good portion of the new readers and missing female editors do not own or operate a desktop and are only available on mobile and tablet, so this is not only where the new readers are, but also where the first edit experience is for most women (and sadly,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-28 Thread Jane Darnell
, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Gerard, and would add that a good portion of the new readers and missing female editors do not own or operate a desktop and are only available on mobile and tablet, so this is not only where the new readers are, but also where the first edit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-28 Thread Jane Darnell
...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: You can start by asking around in your own circle of aquaintance, and I'll bet that such research will make you quickly realize that hard stats will be very hard to discover, since in my circle, most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-02 Thread Jane Darnell
I don't think people yell MediaViewer is broken as much as they yell MediaViewer broke my workflow!. The problem is that no one cares about some editor's personal workflow, so maybe we should be documenting use cases that could be used for new old editors and developers alike On Tue, Sep 2,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot+Bot Acadeny

2014-09-17 Thread Jane Darnell
I think this is great news. Can't wait to see what comes out of the Bot Academy. I love the name too! On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Many years ago... on en.wp, RamBot created thousands and thousands of articles about towns and cities in the United

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Jessie's IDEO adventure

2014-09-18 Thread Jane Darnell
I have also seen some significant improvements in both the chapter reporting structure and the feedback loops, and of course this directly impacts the overall ability to achieve strategic goals just by being able to measure success and failure. Jesse will be sorely missed, but um, is this IDEO?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Wikimedia stewards and What the weirdest, wildest, most successful participatory project in history tells us about working together

2014-11-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks for the link! My worst ever experience on Wikipedia was a run-in with treinstel, so a very interesting read indeed On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I've had a number of discussions with our stewards over the years. Many of them are dedicated, polite,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Jane Darnell
My takeaway from this mail was that someone finally noticed that Commons does, in fact, thank you for your uploads now. That was a positive byproduct of Wiki Loves Monuments in 2011-2012! On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Steven, Quite seriously, if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Jane Darnell
fop On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: What about this file? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2007-11-21_Hammamet-VW-2.JPG The image is of a car, and the car has a logo and design motif on it that is surely eligible for copyright. COM:PACKAGING doesn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Jane Darnell
Marco there's hope! http://www.northbaybusinessjournal.com/102821/ip-minefield-monkey-makes-copyright-history/ On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote: All sniping aside,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Jane Darnell
Are you kidding? Most of WLM photos in the Netherlands have cars in them - these all fall under fop On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:23 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 December 2014 at 18:19, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Yup - it is in the Netherlands - yay! Nyet. Netherlands

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Jane Darnell
holds - insofar as it is a copyrightable work, it is copyrightable under part 11 (applied arts) and not part 6 or 8 of article 10. André On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Are you kidding? Most of WLM photos in the Netherlands have cars in them

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-12 Thread Jane Darnell
Gerard, Thanks for adding all of those statements to Wikidata! Thanks to you, I have been able to match up thousands of artists in Mix-n-Match! Like you, I am not afraid of a 1%-3% error margin, especially when tools like Mix-n-Match mean we can uncover such mistakes quickly and efficiently.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-12 Thread Jane Darnell
Ha! Thanks Liam, let me be the first to admit that I'm guilty as charged! I would have used the clip of Paul Newman from Cool Hand Luke on communication, but maybe that just shows my age. I have one comment on your comment about Wikidata metadata handling. Yes this is currently done locally on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Jane Darnell
No, tagging is different. GerardM blogged about this with the example of horse. You can tag a photo as being of a horse by putting it in the horse category, but in no time it will be filed under some subcategory of horse. There are relatively few images in the top horse category. Moreover, most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
As a member of the IEG committee I am happy to say that there is no need to panic. WLM is highly successful project and no one is talking about shutting it down, or any other project for that matter. The current campaign is scheduled to be one of hopefully many, targeted at the community in order

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
. Bad idea. Romaine 2015-01-03 15:33 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: Nope. Gendergap is about the gap in female participation, not in female-related topics. The Dutch Wikipedia has a severe gap with only 6% female participation. I would say

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: As a member of the IEG committee I am happy to say that there is no need to panic. WLM is highly successful project and no one is talking about shutting it down, or any other project for that matter. The current campaign is scheduled to be one of hopefully

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
I find it interesting to discover via this conversation that it has not been defined yet! On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. Gendergap is about the gap in female participation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
pointless political flim flam already in our Wikimedia community without masking events as GenderGap for the sake of faking metrics. Fae On 3 Jan 2015 15:50, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: ..and I am hoping to see lots of gendergap paint On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Lodewijk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Teemu, Of course! Not only that, but I think that an internal survey already shows that WLM attracts a higher percentage of female contributors than any other project that measured it. Don't assume by the subject heading of this thread that any WLM project is being shut down. In fact, nothing is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
wanting them to be 50-50 is not fair if the subjects are 20-80 spread. Or maybe there are gender neutral topics also. So yes, there are certainly things that are not defined, but what the gendergap is, seems to be defined. Romaine 2015-01-03 16:48 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks Lila! On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: For everyone here: I've asked our Grantmaking team to comment and clarify the details of this plan. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Answering to Teemu and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New financing model for editations

2015-03-19 Thread Jane Darnell
I totally agree. It would be good though to have some WMF sponsored swag on hand for minor prizes that the chapters could give out for unusual contributions that pop up at local edit-a-thons though. I am not sure you would need to track it heavily on the financial side - I was thinking along the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia

2015-03-05 Thread Jane Darnell
these are just as active, respected etc as the men Anders Jane Darnell skrev den 2015-03-05 15:54: Anders, Very ironic to read the word fraternity here when we are in the middle of the whole Inspire campaign launch, but I assume there are women in that group and they are just lost

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia

2015-03-05 Thread Jane Darnell
Anders, Very ironic to read the word fraternity here when we are in the middle of the whole Inspire campaign launch, but I assume there are women in that group and they are just lost in translation? Jane On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: Very,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Towns

2015-04-30 Thread Jane Darnell
Monmouthpedia? On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 9:58 PM, d...@bisharat.net wrote: What is the status of the Wiki Towns effort? I first heard of it at Wikimania 2012, but looking at the list of actual projects, it appears to have had limited appeal. Noting also that in a couple of cases there were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 60 Minutes episode link

2015-04-06 Thread Jane Darnell
Yup - just watched it in the Netherlands, with lots of Viagra ads too! It's a great piece and I hope it helps spread the message that Wikipedia is a non-profit written by volunteers. One of the outcomes of the WMNL reader and editor survey was that most of the Dutch public didn't know that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-05 Thread Jane Darnell
Amir, This tool is great in theory and sounds wonderful but I am personally having some trouble putting it into practice.The short video was VERY helpful, but I am afraid I still ran into some problems on my second attempt at a translation. Here is a roundup of links:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] GLAM Mailing lists

2015-06-09 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes, this mailing list is still alive, and the membership is open to Wikipedians who understand how to jump the hoops of the meta page. The meta page is not only the place where you can sign up for the list, but also the place where you should discuss this list if you object to it in any way. I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Jane Darnell
אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-06-05 12:41 GMT+03:00 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com: Amir, This tool is great in theory and sounds wonderful but I am personally having some trouble putting it into practice.The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-22 Thread Jane Darnell
What I absolutely *love* in this piece is that it's by our own GLAM-Wiki podcast host Andrew Lih and it's in the New York f***ing Times! Yay! Plus I totally agree with his lead point, which holds for all languages: One of the biggest threats it faces is the rise of smartphones as the dominant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Jane Darnell
Actually, considering how effective the blackout was for SOPA, I think another action based on the most prominent images we stand to lose would be in order. So the take on the London Eye and maybe some popular buildings, art and bridges in Euro-FoP countries? I don't know if you could rig a java

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can Wikipedia Survive? op-ed

2015-06-24 Thread Jane Darnell
Gerard, I disagree. I love reading all the nonsense as well as all the thoughtful articles. And sometimes it's the nonsense that triggers me to clean it up and learn something. If there is one thing I have learned in my time in the Wikiverse, it's that there are lots unexpected gems of information

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