Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcoming Ryan Merkley to the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-08-15 Thread Jeff Hawke
"*support the strategy core team to move the Working Group recommendations into implementation within the community and Foundation over the course of the coming year."* Does that mean that it has already been decided to implement those rcommendations, irrespective to the views of the Community?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-20 Thread Jeff Hawke
Chris, There is perhaps some confusion here. Most Wikipedians are accustomed to a process of *discussion*, during which a consensus emerges and is accepted by the community at large, and implemented by community prcesses. It has perhaps not been made perfectly clear that this is a *feedback*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The timeline of the Wikimedia strategy: please reconsider!

2019-08-17 Thread Jeff Hawke
Aron The current timeline allows for nothing like that. According to the META page "Open community input will be accepted until September 15, after which working groups will refine and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-24 Thread Jeff Hawke
Board_noticeboard/July_2018_-_Board_of_Trustees_participation_in_the_Movement_Strategy_Process > [2] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Procedures > > On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 13:13, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > And this is th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-24 Thread Jeff Hawke
Original Message- > > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > > > Behalf Of Benjamin Ikuta > > > Sent: 24 August 2019 07:12 > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement S

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which script oral language will use anyway?

2019-09-03 Thread Jeff Hawke
Suhashih You are right that this could be a controversial choice -- indeed it is inherently political and there is no way of avoiding that fact. So where will the decision be taken, on what grounds and by what athority? Jeff On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:26 PM Subhashish Panigrahi wrote: > Dear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-28 Thread Jeff Hawke
Dariusz It seems very likely that the majority of the 60,000 contributors you mention are there with the intention of building an encyclopaedia based on a neutral point of view achieved by verifiable information attributed to reliable independent sources and disseminated under a free licence.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread Jeff Hawke
do not agree with Jan-Bart's prior position. > > James > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 4:40 AM Jeff Hawke > wrote: > > > Paulo, > > > > You suggest that "things will not get pretty if the Wikimedia community > > does not approve some of the recommendations&q

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread Jeff Hawke
front of us that we can all react to and help further improve to build > our > > future together. > > > > Please join us in thanking, celebrating and supporting them, rather than > > rushing to conclusions or arguing over details. Please contribute in > good &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-21 Thread Jeff Hawke
Andy On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett wrote: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke wrote: > > > the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the > > recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF > > This seems to be missing a rather crucial in