Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-23 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 6:59 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 03/22/2014 02:45 PM, Russavia wrote: It's already been established that there is massive copyvio in there, and I think it is absolutely unacceptable for a copyvio to still be in this article under the circumstances.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Setting ticket prices

2014-03-24 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:47 AM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.vewrote: Wait, are we in kindergarden? I think Rupert's email was sent off-list, so basically there is no need to bring it up to the list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
If nothing else, the existing community quality rating system (i.e. FA, GA, etc.) should be used. It may not be perfect at the individual article level, but it does scale well. On Mar 26, 2014 6:36 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: Philippe, The Public Policy Initiative produced

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is Wikiquote in decline or just stagnant

2014-03-25 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
See the graphs for 5+ editors here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm It is wikinews that has been loosing contributors since mid 2008, and new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Reminder: Nominations open for affiliate-selected board seats

2014-03-29 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
There are 36 hours remaining for nominations for the affiliate-selected seats. Self-nominations are allowed. The two existing chapter appointed board members, Patricio Lorente and Alice Wiegand, are currently the only candidates, which will save a lot of volunteer time in the selection process.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 April 2014 15:23, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: After

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian Open Street Map receive ALL VOICES GRANT

2014-04-20 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Anna Torres a...@wikimedia.org.ar wrote: Hi Isabella, Great news! Congratulations to all of you :) In Argentina we are planning to build up a fundraising strategy this year. Is there somewhere we can take a look to the project? While the WMID team puts online

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yann - Commons is unique in that AFAIK it's our only project that, by it's very nature, effects other projects, as well as outside collaborations. Well, no, it isnt. Wikidata also has a direct effect on the other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-15 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 9:42 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Nathan wrote: A lot of the issues Kevin is probably referring to revolve around the 2011 debate, and many of the most blatant problems have since been cleaned up. Perhaps some of the most blatant problems have been addressed,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
I think intersection is the most significant cause of the current categorisation system. My understanding of the current reasoning behind categorisation as seen on Commons and elsewhere is that: 1) the lack of category intersection causes the very specific categories, which are essentially saved

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On May 29, 2014 5:33 AM, Thyge ltl.pri...@gmail.com wrote: Please raise and discuss questions about policy on meta. This is not the place. Regards, Thyge Wil, I suggest that you do go to http://meta.wikimedia.org and find pages about these issues. *Read the archives of the talk pages*. And

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Wil, On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Stepping in to add another aspect to both questions, as I think it might focus the discussion. Child Protection: Are children encouraged to use commons through any programs or outreach efforts of any kind? Who are you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking Wil from this List

2014-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: I'm starting a thread with the correct title, so that everyone knows that we're discussing whether I should be banned and for what reasons. Like Sam said in another thread, I doubt you would be blocked on this list, and there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: As I mentioned to Sam, I have just one more thing to say here before I let you guys deliberate on whether to block me. I've been getting tons of private emails from people who say that they don't want to see me blocked, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-05-29 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 5:43 AM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is a fascinating discussion, but one which has been addressed in much greater depth elsewhere: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=net+neutrality+wikipedia+zero It would indeed be interesting to hear EFF's take on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:12 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Many new features (e.g., the improved search backend) are deployed fairly regularly without fanfare or objection. Indeed, change-aversion tends to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
'On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:02 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Or .. sometimes the licensing and attribution information isnt correct In the common case, Media Viewer provides more prominent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offwiki

2014-07-13 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Wil Sinclair wrote: Hi all, I've started a new wiki called Offwiki: http://offwiki.org. Our community discusses potential changes to Wikipedia and its Wikimedia sister projects that aren't easily discussed in forums like this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Unacceptable -- CheckUser abuse gone uninvestigated

2014-08-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Are you able to specify which policy or statement entitles you to the information you request? I can find no basis for it in the privacy policy, the Meta checkuser policy or the checkuser page on Commons. Can you also outline for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Unacceptable -- CheckUser abuse gone uninvestigated

2014-08-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: .. I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that the logs are maintained indefinitely but the data is retained for only 3 months (i.e. the results of the check that is recorded in the log). The checkuser log are kept

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure you're correct about what is being disappeared, Fae. I believe that the Guardian is referring to an article of theirs that is now not seen in Google search results for certain terms. The article makes it pretty

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-05 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:27 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure you're correct about what is being disappeared, Fae. I believe that the Guardian is referring to an article of theirs that is now

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:08 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: On 10 August 2014 15:51, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: You'd been threatening to implement super-protection for a long time. I see you finally made good on this very bad idea. This is certainly bold,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Now, having observed that not only user Eloquence (aka Erik Moeller) himself engaged in the enforcement of superprotect right on de.wp [1] but soon after a workaround was published a change was deployed [2, 3] as counter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:01 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Before this, there was no expectation that a page could be protected such that sysops could not alter the content

[Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Hi, Has Odder / Tomasz Kozłowski been put on moderation? I'm informed his emails sent to this list havent come through to the list for nearly 24 hrs, and he has not been notified of having been put on any moderation, and the moderators havent responded to queries sent directly, and havent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] how global.js works? (was: Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you)

2014-08-14 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The big question is not so much where and when things happen, the big question is who supports all the muck. There have been enough instances where changes to for instance common.js brought down servers.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 August 2014 05:31, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-21 9:30 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: It would *seem* that every user converted to the mobile site is a step towards extinction of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-24 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 08/24/2014 11:19 PM, Pine W wrote: I have heard people say don't force an interface change on me that I don't think is an improvement. I do not recall a recent interface change deployment that wasn't accompanied

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's fix templates

2014-09-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: I'd like to add distribution as one of the pain points. I wanted to have the templates that are available on enwiki for another Mediawiki installation, but I couldn't get them to work. It seems like every template has a maze of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-05 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: This somewhat circuitously brings us back to the subject. We have a chance to rollout Flow the right way. There are some questions that come to mind that might tell us if we're headed for a big win or a bigger debacle: 1) Is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-05 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: IMO the WMF should stop focusing on English Wikipedia as a target deploy site, and stop allowing its product management team and WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-06 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-09-06 1:07 GMT+02:00 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: IMO the WMF should stop focusing on English Wikipedia as a target

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 09/07/2014 01:57 AM, Diego Moya wrote: a major property of a document-centric architecture that is lost in a structured one is that it's open-ended, which means that end users can build new features and flows on top

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback with Android on Commons

2014-09-08 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yann, The Commons app would need lots of love to continue to be worth advertising as a mainline app. It's not been updated since October, and code rot sets in after a while (I can easily reproduce crashes when logging in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback with Android on Commons

2014-09-08 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks to all in this thread for raising these issues. A discussion about sunsetting the Commons Android app is ongoing on mobile-l right now. I would encourage anyone who's interested to subscribe and comment. Hi Dam,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Tim, do you think that this list of all the useful stuff that talk pages can currently includes things that aren't being done because they are too advanced for newbie editors or too inconvenient for veterans? Regardless, you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Actually, I'd like to speak up on the name. I imagine the name reflected the enthusiasm of its first attendees, but Wikimania has all the wrong connotations in today's world. True mania is marked by little control, commitment,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote: Pine, As far as I know, government employees in most of the countries can vote only if they are citizens. So yes, of course we are not taking there democratic voice. As I didn't said a staff member can't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-06 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 October 2014 20:51, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 10/05/2014 08:24 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: I checked a few of the WMF admin staff who have been employed more than a year, and many dont look likely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-06 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: John, please explain what your point is here. I mean really, picking on individual people who voted in the election? That's crossing the line, especially as they met the voting eligibility criteria for the election involved,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness tool (for Wikimedia organizations)

2014-12-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Why does the questionnaire seemingly exclude the WMF? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organizational_effectiveness/Tool/User_guide#Preparing_to_Take_the_Organizational_Effectiveness_Questionnaire If the WMF is one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness tool (for Wikimedia organizations)

2014-12-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Anasuya! That's quite a comprehensive survey but instructive to fill out. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:46 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: No, .. from the survey itself: Throughout, we use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: I would like to expose this more, maybe after this crunch. Just keep in mind that it takes time to anonymize and process -- a time that is otherwise spent on optimizing or collaborating. One bucket of resources, many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:46 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: John Mark Vandenberg wrote: i.e. specifically asking previously highly productive volunteers who have stopped contributing whether they feel the increase in funds has not resulted in their work being adequately

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 04.12.2014 02:30, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:46 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: John Mark Vandenberg wrote: i.e. specifically asking previously highly productive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner interfering with Google results

2014-12-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Nick Birse w...@nbir.se wrote: Russavia asked me to check this to confirm it wasn't just him or his regional Google setup, and it's both correct and looking into it further it's hitting every single page on Wikipedia that Google has indexed. If you search for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner interfering with Google results

2014-12-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks John for the link. I've made an edit to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushuaia_%E2%80%93_Malvinas_Argentinas_International_Airport as I've been told that Google will update text in their search results when

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-08 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Comparisons to PBS/TV are not a useful pro-Wikipedia Zero argument, as the TV network model is itself a convincing argument effectively used by the pro-net-neutrality people as a worst case outcome of eroding net neutrality - most people agree we need to avoid the Internet descending to a TV

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, This problem is not new. It is not as if the Commons community is not aware of this perception. The perception that there might be a situation where someone is sued is not necessary shared by lawyers. They

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation global ban policy

2015-01-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. Within the past week, Philippe has posted the Wikimedia Foundation's global ban policy: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Global_Ban_Policy. Raised it on the WMF board noticeboard, as I would expect they develop

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Congratulations to MediaWiki Farmers User Group for being approved as a Wikimedia User Group

2015-01-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
*sigh* I was hoping the farmers had united but good luck to the virtual farmers of ~85% men On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Please join the Affiliations Committee in congratulating the MediaWiki Farmers User Group on their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual Report from the Wikimedia Foundation

2015-01-29 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
https://annual.wikimedia.org/2014/#editcounterinfo says The edit counter is a live count of all edits across all databases in Wikimedia’s servers. How does it work? Every five minutes or so, the system queries the databases in the Wikimedia cluster for the sum total of all edits on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Love on the wikis

2015-02-14 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Emily Blanchard eblanch...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks Fabrice! This is pure sweetness. St. Valentine's Day comes but once a year! Actually ... It is celebrated at different times in the year, in various parts of the world. And the Eastern Orthodox Church

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-17 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... All accounts that will be affected by this will be contacted on their talk page within the next couple of days.[4] All local wikis also have a publicly listed database of users who will be renamed, available

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Data privacy, encrypted links and recent change captures

2015-03-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On 01/01/2014 9:11 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: John Vandenberg, 30/12/2013 08:10: Are the Wikimedia transit links encrypted, especially for database replication? MySQL has replication over SSL, so I assume the answer is Yes. If not, is this necessary or useful, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

2015-02-23 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: But, my initial point was: Am I missing something? Would there be any reason why such grammar would have sense without ND clause? Milos, Could we not import these works onto Wikisource in original format,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

2015-02-23 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: But since Milos asked: In Wikisource changing the original is indeed vandalism, but somebody must notice that it's vandalism. AFAIK Wikisource doesn't have a proper way to authenticate that the document is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bye

2015-02-24 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
When was odder put on moderation, and what for? On 24 Feb 2015 14:49, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: John Mark Vandenberg, 23/02/2015 21:59: Which email ? the crowdfunding email? Yes, because odder is in moderation (like many others, it seems). Nemo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

2015-02-23 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Which, actually, reminds me that we definitely need a non-free repository. For example, we could get that grammar to be quoted in whole, but there is no sense to change it. But, my initial point was: Am I missing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-17 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/17/2015 09:54 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... All accounts that will be affected by this will be contacted on their talk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CAPTCHA issues discouraging new editors

2015-06-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: [I'm posting this here because although the experiences described relate to en.WP, I'm sure it applies to other projects as well] I have trained over 100 people to edit Wikipedia this year; in around a dozen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-20 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Would it be possible for the WLM banner to show on the Main Page only during 8-22 September, with the fundraising banner on every other page? -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

2015-11-15 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > Not sure we should be making such a link as the events in Paris are not > about Islam just as the actions of the women in Kentucky was not a > reflection of Christianity. Paris is not the only place its unfortunately > its

Re: [Wikimedia-l] help needed - Arkansas

2015-10-14 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > (If you don't have userinfo.js [0] in your global .js, I highly recommend > it) > > 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PleaseStand/userinfo.js IMO this should be a standard gadget available for all wikis. --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] help needed - Arkansas

2015-10-14 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
I randomly clicked user pages in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Arkansas and found many 5,000+ currently editing Wikipedians, and one 40,000+ editor. Sounds like hitting user_talk pages might be a better approach to finding suitable Wikipedians. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Given that enWP alone has 123,540 active editors as of this morning,[1] it’s > not exactly a stretch… What percentage of those are credible stakeholders in Wikimania? How many are going to be eligible for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

2015-09-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:37 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >>Much more importantly, Flow very much does cover basic talk pages. You can >>write a title and an OP and get people to reply. This has been working for >>many months already. This is my definition of

[Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
"On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:14 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > I might have missed it, but I can't see any attribution for the image… as I > doubt it will be a click through to the file page. I couldnt find the image in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cups_of_black_coffee

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:25 PM, James Heilman wrote: > 1) Yes everyone realizes that using a non free image in our fundraising > banners is not okay. It was a mistake. These things happen and we correct > them. Funny how the first response from a WMF employee was that they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A moderator's Pleas

2015-12-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Richard Ames wrote: > All - > > Please use a new subject line when introducing a new topic. Please start > the thread with a new message (not a reply) to > wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org My apologies. I have no idea how my email became a new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
"On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Lisa Gruwell wrote: > We agree with you that WMF fundraising should not use stock photography. > This was a mistake by a designer. We specify in our contracts with outside > designers that the images used should be custom artwork that WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On 3 Dec 2015 10:25 am, "Craig Franklin" wrote: > > On 2 December 2015 at 16:37, MZMcBride wrote: > > > Sadly, other sites can be more obnoxious. Some sites have interstitial > > advertisements that include auto-playing video. The Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Something is covered in NDAs. -- John ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2015-12-31 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Can the board please very clearly state whether this removal was for cause, or not!? On 1 Jan 2016 12:03 am, "Patricio Lorente" wrote: > Thank you to everyone who responded to my email about the Board’s recent > decision. We recognize this is the Board's first removal

[Wikimedia-l] Wikidata training in Oceania, SE Asia (Was: Quality issues)

2015-12-20 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Gnangarra wrote: > This is going nowhere, one of the big issues is that there is a lack of > understanding on how WikiData works and whats it purpose is. > > > Wikimedia Australia solution is invest community money into bringing > someone who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board of Trustees

2015-12-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Surely there must be a board resolution that needs to be pubished regarding this? On 29 Dec 2015 9:44 am, "James Heilman" wrote: > On Dec 28th 2015 I was removed from the board of the Wikimedia Foundation. > Many thanks to all those who gave me their support during the last >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board of Trustees

2015-12-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Nod. Found it. :/ https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:James_Heilman_Removal On 29 Dec 2015 1:21 pm, "Nathan" <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 9:17 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Surely there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Redirect blog.wikipedia.org to the Wikimedia Blog

2015-11-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Why? I would prefer not, as I like the project domains to be kept clean, and I suspect it would (by effect if not intent) be abusing 'wikipedia's name to push meta content higher up in the results. Project domains should be used for that project only, so IMO it would only be appropriate to host

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-11-30 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > May we actually stop having anything with these pest? > > http://custodians.online/ I dont believe we can stop using closed access journals, as that would reduce the quality of our projects, but we can use links to them as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > I don't really mind WMF working with closed-access publishers, if that > works. > What I think is that we don't put the same effort indoing something with > the openaccess world: all the initiatives I know are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning

2016-01-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
'On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Anna Stillwell wrote: > I like the idea of a strategic plan for the movement and one for the > Foundation. > I think that is a good idea. Also agree. I'd like to see strategic plan for the movement done first, and then one undertaken

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Fæ wrote: > >> On 11 January 2016 at 00:37, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: >> .. >> This does not make sense. The existing trustees are *entirely* >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

2016-06-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On 5 Jun 2016 05:19, "Greg Varnum" wrote: > > > John asked about filing and other fees paid by Jones Day, and if the fees were separate from consulting costs. Unfortunately, we don’t have an easy, quick way to divide the Jones Day expenses into registration fees and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal for New Project - Wikilore

2016-01-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
in regards to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilore On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:55 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote: > 2016-01-18 16:37 GMT+01:00 Tanweer Morshed : >> Yeah, I do think the same as well. Wikisource is a good option for that. > > It could be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Isaac David wrote: > > Le lun. 18 janv. 2016 à 3:17, Andrea Zanni a > écrit : >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Goodman wrote: >> >>> Nor am I concerned that our information

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea > pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be > an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reinstatement of James Heilman

2016-02-27 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
If the board can not back up Jimmy's assertion he has removed for cause, I am pretty confident the community will 'select' James again, just as soon as they are given an opportunity. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Elsevier?

2016-02-14 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Lodewijk > wrote: >> that is a perfectly fine opinion to hold, thanks for sharing. However, the >> WMF should, in my opinion, only make political statements

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-20 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 2016-01-19 12:53 PM, Pine W wrote: >> >> The constitutional crisis that WMF created by using Superprotect to force >> Image VIewer on the communities [...] > > > ... except that this is not what happened. While

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Board-l] Fwd: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-22 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: >.. > The identified mistakes/shortcomings of the whole process: > > 1. In the background check performed by the HR and the legal department we > have not had a specific PR check as an immanent part. While it sounds

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook marketing inside pt.wikipedia

2016-02-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Indonesian Wikipedia has used site notice to link to their Facebook group, Twitter, and Instagram for years. Their facebook page has 97,236 likes. https://www.facebook.com/id.wiki posts often get 100 likes compare with Wikimedia Commons page, with 2,793 likes, and posts usually attract < 10

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

2016-02-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:28 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel wrote: > If we want to talk about the cost of Wikimania it will be great if the WMF > and the local team will share the costs. > > Until now Wikimania London didn't published anything: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Free as in beer

2016-02-29 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Richard Symonds wrote: > So... > > BrewDog, a Scotland-based "hipster brewery" - for want of a better phrase - > have just "open-sourced" their entire recipe collection. > > You can read more at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-09 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:14 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Jimmy Wales > wrote: >> >> I rejoined this list after a long absence, and I was immediately >> reminded why some people call it "drama-l" > > > Jimmy, if you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats update

2016-03-11 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Cristian Consonni wrote: > Il 11/Mar/2016 11:50, "Gordon Joly" ha scritto: >> Do Chapters have to ask their membership, or are they empowered to vote >> without going back to the members? > > Practices vary widely.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On 16 Mar 2016 07:07, "Moushira Elamrawy" wrote: > > Hello Fae, > > Ideation phase [0], is a term widely used in product and design context. > Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these > fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-09 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:51 AM, SarahSV <sarahsv.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:42 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> Are we still waiting for Jimmy to agree/reject to James' request to >> release an em

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats update

2016-03-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Hi Itzik, do you mean a proper secret ballot? On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel wrote: > Hi Chris, > > How and where the chapter will vote? > I offered to do it privately, in order to avoid current votes to influence > others chapters. > > Itzik >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Kenya - copyright infringement

2016-04-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/ now has ads dancing around the screen, the donate link is gone, and the privacy policy and general disclaimer have been removed. It only has 107,391 articles according to special:statistics. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Pine W wrote: > I took

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