Re: [Wikimedia-l] simple and effective creation process for chapters

2014-05-03 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I would settle for an open process, rather than a secretive AffComm. Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 10:08:22 +0200 From: nemow...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] simple and effective creation process for chapters rupert THURNER, 03/05/2014 09:02:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] simple and effective creation process for chapters

2014-05-03 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
If this process is indeed really being revamped, may I ask why we give established chapters such dominance, even to the exclusion of the creation of less formal groups (user groups). As it stands, a chapter can (and in the case of Mexico, does) marginalize people and at least one educational

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities

2014-05-06 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Unfortunately, this is not always the case. Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 20:46:23 +0200 From: mathias.dam...@laposte.net To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities Le 06/05/2014 20:15, Leigh Thelmadatter a écrit : Where chapter support is wanted

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy

2014-05-23 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Its a very bold move on your part Will and it will be interesting how this develops over time. I dont participate at Wikipediocracy but I lurk regularly. Perhaps because I have some long-standing issues that no one addresses and its useful to know others have problems too. From: w...@wllm.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-28 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Ive been watching this conversation and I have to agree with Will here. These calls for banning/restriction of access to the list and admission that Wikipedia is full of landmines is troubling. If we have such grave problems, we should be confronting them. If Will is just stirring the pot,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-29 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I think this is a good idea, but Im interested in knowing if AffComm intends to have a more responsive way to address petitions for affiliation. There are a number of applications stuck in limbo with no indication of how and when they will be resolved. Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 08:36:09 -0400

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Edit #1 and Challenge #1

2014-05-29 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Ok! I have a training session with Tec de Monterrey students doing community service on Sat. This will be part of their introduction! Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 01:24:33 -0700 From: l...@wikimedia.org To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Edit #1 and Challenge #1 I wanted

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-29 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
One has to keep in mind, that we encourage groups to contact us as early in their group creation phase as possible, which means that the process' time will include time spent by the applying group on figuring out who they are and what they want to do.That has not been our (Wiki Borregos)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-29 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
We have been doing all of that including the board members for a year now. This is the first bit of information Ive had from you in months. This seems to work a lot faster. Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:28:49 -0400 From: gregory.var...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-29 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
think is necessary to send two copies of the same e-mail to the same people :-) M. El 29/05/2014 10:31 p.m., Leigh Thelmadatter escribió: We have been doing all of that including the board members for a year now. This is the first bit of information Ive had from you in months

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-29 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
in a very small minority of cases.) Best regards, Bence On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com wrote: OK so then why no action, no communication until I write something here? Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 22:52:40 +0300 From: ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-30 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Compare the process of forming a Meetup group. There are basic standards of behavior and usage -- applied via review after the fact, soft-security style -- and measures of activity. But as soon as you finish filling out a form describing your group, it has been created + is visible online + has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-30 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Borregos means rams the mascot of the Tec de Monterrey. Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 16:17:49 -0400 From: nawr...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osama

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-31 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Obviously, having more user groups would be great, but we do not currently know how many are not being created due to the process. It is entirely possible, that the creation of active user groups (without further investments and interventions into seeding communities) is currently maxed out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] WMF Board of Trustees: Minutes of April 2014 meeting

2014-06-16 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I am very happy to see the discussion of user groups and the concern about their lack of formation. Hopefully, the process can be amended to fit better to what was originally envisioned. From: slapo...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:49:53 +0200 To:

[Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

2014-07-03 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I am, at this moment, trying to give a workshop on Wikipedia to professors and they are having their own user pages being speedily deleted by Tarawa1943 and Taichi We have sent polite messages to them and bibliotecarios (admins) but the deletions continue. Suggestions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

2014-07-03 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
es.wiki creating user pages Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200 From: nemow...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors Risker, 04/07/2014 00:15: What project(s) are you working on? Bibliotecarios = es.wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR

2014-07-03 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Felicidades!!! From: gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 01:35:15 +0200 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR Hoi,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

2014-07-04 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: Sounds like a local issue for ES wiki. I'll ask Hahc21 to look at this. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com wrote: es.wiki creating user pages Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200 From: nemow

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Catching copy and pasting early

2014-07-20 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
This is one of the best ideas Ive read on here! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:00:28 -0600 From: jmh...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; eloque...@gmail.com; fschulenb...@wikimedia.org; ladsgr...@gmail.com; jorlow...@gmail.com; madman.enw...@gmail.com; west.andre...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Catching copy and pasting early

2014-07-21 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
to automatically report back issues, nitification of contributors and admins. all in a kind of standardized way (i.e. well defined interface), and most important, usable by everybody, for free. rupert Am 21.07.2014 04:05 schrieb Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com: This is one of the best ideas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-11 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
AHEM it is *NOT* easy to create a user group, especially if a chapter is against it. Look at how long the Wiki Borregos application has been left in limbo by Aff Comm and Ive saved some real doozies of emails from several members of said committee. Just a small taste... one of the first

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-11 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
If it is to be limited to certain people, why not just have a pre conference with Wikimania? Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:36:36 +0200 From: zvand...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015 There is no reason to change the name, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
For what its worth, I just added another 2 cents over at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference From: e...@wikimanialondon.org Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:58:00 +0100 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
this is cool, I can easily see that at least some of my articles are being translated to German! Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 16:33:52 +0200 From: nemow...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles Amir E. Aharoni, 04/10/2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Best promo videos?

2014-10-22 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
They are rare because they are not easy to make! From: a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:40:59 +0100 To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Best promo videos? [NB: cross-posted] I'm in need of a couple of short

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Best promo videos?

2014-10-22 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
: a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:24:26 +0100 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Best promo videos? On 22 October 2014 13:58, Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com wrote: They are rare because they are not easy to make! All the more reason to make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness tool (for Wikimedia organizations)

2014-12-02 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I assume this survey is only for organizations that have been recognized by AffCom? We are still struggling to get ours (despite the fact that we are one of the most productive educational groups), so I thought Id at least answer the questionnairre, but under name of organization the only

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness tool (for Wikimedia organizations)

2014-12-02 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
OK I see now the box for other not as an option for a name (which is how these things are usually set up) but underneath the original question. From: osama...@hotmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: RE: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness tool (for Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Record for edit-a-thon production?

2015-02-05 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Is there any record for the number of articles/bytes added to Wikipedia from an edit-a-thon? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Record for edit-a-thon production?

2015-02-06 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org https://donate.wikimedia.org/* On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com wrote: Is there any record

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2016

2015-01-21 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Congratulations on the official annoucement. I very much look forward to helping out with the education programming! Leigh Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:15:38 +0100 From: q...@wikimedia.org To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 200 000 articles on Slovak Wikipedia

2015-02-10 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Congratulations! Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:48:57 +0100 From: michal.matu...@wikimedia.sk To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] 200 000 articles on Slovak Wikipedia Dear community, On February 5th 2015 the Slovak Wikipedia reached 200 000 articles and is the 35th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap project-related decision

2015-01-08 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I dont think the issue is the idea of encouraging projects that increase the participation of women, but rather the message that everything else is getting shoved aside. I dont see this as sexism and playing that card is counter-productive. What I suggest is that instead of saying that for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia

2015-03-04 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
uy! I have 77617. Can I excuse myself by saying that much of that is combined with my work as a teacher using WP with students? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 18:19:24 +0100 From: ricordisa...@openmailbox.org To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editing Wikipedia for school community service hours

2015-04-13 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I agree that any community service type editing would have to be planned and done carefully as the type of work being done is everything. Obviously adding content about businesses and television shows would have no community impact, but documenting cultural topics, marginalized peoples, and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2015-04-22 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
+1 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:51:25 -0400 From: aleksey.bilo...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections My two cents: no, no, no, absolutely not, by all means no, never. I am strongly, strongly, strongly opposed to such a move.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Early Bird Registration Open for Wikimania 2015!

2015-05-08 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I have already registered, but the fee is steep (1460MXN, ~100 USD), quite out-of-reach of students and more than a few teachers here in Mexico. From: eyo...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 10:15:26 -0700 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editing Wikipedia for school community service hours

2015-04-15 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
April 2015 at 02:28, Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree that any community service type editing would have to be planned and done carefully as the type of work being done is everything. Obviously adding content about businesses and television shows would have no community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community Brazilian Group of Education and Research

2015-04-12 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Welcome! Im definitely interested in what you all are doing! Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 06:28:49 -0500 From: ma...@wikimedia.org.ve To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community Brazilian Group of Education and Research Dear all, The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of new User Groups

2015-10-18 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Im not sure now is the right time to divide affiliates. Thematic organizations and user groups are still new and there is still a heavy preference towards chapters. User groups are not necessarily small, and chapters are not necessarily large. I hear what you are saying about resources being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-16 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
If we are concerned about Google taking unfair advantage of Wikipedia, one simple solution is to allow content donations with a non-commercial restriction. Right now, the concept of "free" include commercial use. An added bonus to this is that we would get a lot more institutional donations of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-23 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
As a humanities person myself, I did read into Lila's post that the non-engineering aspects of Wikimedia would take a back seat... perhaps a far back seat to all the shiny new things happening in Silicon Valley. This may not be the case, but if it is, I can understand it as to an engineer,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-02-28 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I have to agree here. The WMF and its employees have forgotten that the mission is to support the work done on the various wikis, not make work for fireworks for themselves. Nothing we are dealing with here is new. It is just the eruption of some very long-standing problems with the WMF and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Should only the staff have a say in this vision? Almost all, if not all, of this talk is about what the staff wants. > From: yastrak...@wikimedia.org > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 03:45:28 +0300 > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

2016-02-18 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I have to disagree. money for WMF employee attendance is still WMF money... still coming from donations. I find it very interesting that so much more is spent on employee attendance then volunteer attendance. > From: meta...@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:06:28 -0500 > To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the official announcement

2016-02-10 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Im curious to see how this might affect Wiki Learning Tec de Monterrey, as we are both an education program and an affiliate. > Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:19:17 -0800 > From: mc...@wikimedia.org > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the

[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Learning Tec de Monterrey annual report

2016-04-13 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
As per the request on the Reports page on Meta, we hereby announce our very first annual report as a Wikimedia user group (sorry its late! we lack hands)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I voiced my opposition to the statement on Facebook but Yair states the case far more eloquently. Many acts by many countries could be a possible threat to Wikimedia, where do we draw the line? Why was there no community discussion prior to the statement? Sent from my iPhone > On 02/02/2017,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-07 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
The people who are loudest in their demands for consensus do not represent the Wikimedia movement. The voices loudest for the WMF doing something against the Trump administration are not representative of the Wikimedia movement either... they have been WMF employees and those closest to them.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-07 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
of us who have nothing to do with San Francisco. You complain about the WMF not listening to voices in the community but you ignore a large part of that community who disagrees with you. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Leigh Thelmadatter <osama...@hotmail.com> wrote: > The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-07 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
NB we have it worse because many of our contributors cannot come to our only office either. Thanks, GerardM On 7 February 2017 at 15:41, Leigh Thelmadatter <osama...@hotmail.com> wrote: > And yet, here is the amicus brief signed by the Wikimedia Foundation, > along with, n

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-01 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Yair is right because messages like this "empower" only those who agree with them. Taking sides in the name of the Foundation, which has the money and therefore power, is not inclusive. Sent from my iPhone > On 01/03/2017, at 12:58 p.m., Yair Rand wrote: > > An

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of WikiConference North America

2016-11-17 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
How do you sign up to be a member of the group? From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Maor Malul Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36:07 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New partnership and expansion of Wikimedia Israel's Education initiative - WikiCampus

2016-10-11 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Congratulations! I agree this is the way to go with education, as it gets administrative support. This has been crucial for our program, as it tells teachers that their school supports what they do. For us, such an organizational effort has given us access to resources that individual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Equally James, how is this advocacy "extremely helpful"? How does it help the building and maintainence of Wikimedia projects? How does it help the many volunteers who work on these projects? From: Wikimedia-l on behalf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
ent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:17:19 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report" On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter <osama...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Equally James, how is this advocacy "extremely hel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Austin Hair is gone

2017-12-18 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I didnt know him well, just on Facebook and reputation... but whoa! Will put my condolences up From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Andy Mabbett Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 9:17:09 AM To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

2018-04-15 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Not just English Wikipedia. All of the projects are hostile to "outsiders" Those not in English might even be worse for several reasons Enviado desde mi LG de Telcel -- Original message-- From: Robert Fernandez Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 9:17 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Cc: Subject:Re: