Re: [Wikimedia-l] O'Dwyer

2012-06-28 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 27/06/12 22:25, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I can’t see how keeping the current structure of the internet the same way it was in 1995 is more important than a body of law that’s hundreds of years old. Excellently put. He really can't. ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 10/07/12 08:16, Milos Rancic wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Keegan Peterzellkeegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I'll bite. This is just my opinion and based on SOPA in the United States and what our government represents. Thanks! I am responding as a non-cognitivist moral skeptic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 10/07/12 15:45, Keegan Peterzell wrote: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~ Benjamin Franklin The blackout was exactly the opposite. A little temporary (one day) safety (all the content was still available at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 11/07/12 09:40, Milos Rancic wrote: Yep, I forgot it. BTW, note the comments below RIA Novosti news on Russian Wikipedia strike [1]. That baseline fluctuates a lot :) [1] http://en.ria.ru/society/20120710/174509543.html By the way, Western media are spinning this to be an anti-Putin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 11/07/12 09:57, Fred Bauder wrote: Try http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/10/russian-wikipedia-shut-down-protest?INTCMP=SRCH It is quite possible, as in China, political censorship is the actual purpose, and pornography, and whatever, is just the excuse. Yes, but this has nothing to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-27 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 27/07/12 03:47, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:23 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: There is a contractual arrangement between the IOC and the photographer as specified in terms and conditions on the ticket. If some one makes photos available commercially then they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-08 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 05/01/13 04:47, Tim Starling wrote: For example, requiring phone number verification for new users from developed countries would be less damaging. I don't see how is this supposed to help (and I don't think most new users would want to do this; I certainly wouldn't).

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-08 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 08/01/13 11:35, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Nikola Smolenski, 08/01/2013 10:30: On 05/01/13 04:47, Tim Starling wrote: For example, requiring phone number verification for new users from developed countries would be less damaging. I don't see how is this supposed to help (and I don't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-09 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 09/01/13 10:03, Kim Bruning wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 07:45:41AM +, David Gerard wrote: Right. So anyone in this thread going into detail about en:wp policies is actually not addressing this, and the problem is on a higher level? :-/ Back to the drawing board. That actually

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

2013-01-15 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 15/01/13 09:50, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: David Gerard, 15/01/2013 09:30: On 15 January 2013 08:26, Andrea Zannizanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: * the folks at archiveteam set up this: http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It is not properly legal, read it all. Note, btw, that this page was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-15 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 15/01/13 00:21, Richard Farmbrough wrote: Of course any effort to make article source more readable meets with opposition - in the case of references in particular. And not only from those who cite CITEVAR legitimately, but from at least one admin who will block for putting references in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 11/03/13 16:14, Gerard Meijssen wrote: What we are asking for is that we ensure that the structures that exist in OmegaWiki are replicated in Wikidata for reasons that are clear and obvious. Technically there are a few things that make sense to have.. For instance.. In the Dutch language we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-24 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 24/04/13 08:29, Erik Moeller wrote: Could open source MT be such a strategic investment? I don't know, but I'd like to at least raise the question. I think the alternative will be, for the foreseeable future, to accept that this piece of technology will be proprietary, and to rely on goodwill

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-25 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 24/04/13 12:35, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Current machine translation research aims at using massive machine learning supported systems. They usually require big parallel corpora. We do not have big parallel corpora (Wikipedia articles are not translations of each other, in general), especially

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-25 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 24/04/13 12:35, Denny Vrandečić wrote: In summary, I see four calls for action right now (and for all of them this means to first actually think more and write down a project plan and gather input on that), that could and should be tackled in parallel if possible: I ) develop a structured

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Since I was thinking about how to do this for some time, I wrote some developers' notes at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Article_generation so feel free to comment if anything is not clear or not desirable. On 26/04/13 14:10, Jane Darnell wrote: Well, I am going to come out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-29 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 26/04/13 19:38, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Andrea Zanni wrote: At the moment, Wikisource could be a interesting corpora and laboratory for improving and enhancing OCR, as the OCR generated text is always proofread and corrected by humans. Try also Distributed Proofreaders. It is my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] All the lakes in Sweden

2013-05-17 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 16/05/13 23:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 16 May 2013 18:36, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: All lakes (3, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment data from a newly set up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 03/06/13 11:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Ting Chen, 03/06/2013 11:29: I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and saw the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more potential would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

2013-06-17 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 16/06/13 15:24, Johan Jönsson wrote: 2013/6/16 Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com I think that Anders is saying that the result of Wikimedia Swedish is due to a work of bots and to a work of people. It means that this result is contrary to the WMF strategy which would have more people and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)

2013-06-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 18/06/13 01:04, Martin Rulsch wrote: As far as I know, that's even planned by the Wikidata team. It isn't exactly planned by the Wikidata tema, a volunteer would need to do it. 2013/6/18 Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl Hello, I am also unhappy with the mail from Hubertl, and also