Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiconference USA in the media

2014-06-07 Thread Pine W
That article in the New York Times seems to describe the view of a curious outsider's view on hard-core Wikipedians personally, and it does seem a bit stereotyped, but since I wasn't at the conference I can only guess. Some of us are discussing the idea that WMF Programs Evaluation could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality on different language version

2014-06-10 Thread Pine W
Hi Anders, may I suggest that you ask your good question on Wiki-Research-l? I know some work has been done on this subject but it's not at my fingertips. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l Pine On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Balázs Viczián

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Israel’s Ministry of Education Wikimedia Israel Agree On New, Unique Initiative

2014-06-11 Thread Pine W
I'm forwarding this good news from WikimediaAnnounce-l that mysteriously wasn't received by Wikimedia-l. I'm sending this to Wikimedia-l and Education-l. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:58 PM

[Wikimedia-l] FW: Integration Wikipedia into primary and secondary schools in Serbia

2014-06-11 Thread Pine W
And forwarding more education good news, this time an announcement that was sent to Education-l. (I boldly made some formatting tweaks. My previous email address sometimes had these problems with formatting too.) Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Mile Kiš mil...@vikimedija.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC Advisory Group recommendations

2014-06-11 Thread Pine W
Thanks Anasuya and to the FDC AG. These points make sense to me as someone who's actively talking with fellow Wikimedians about forming a Wikimedia thorg. Goodness, what happened on Wikimedia-l today? So many good things were announced. Pine On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Anasuya Sengupta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement on Wikipedia from participating communications firms

2014-06-11 Thread Pine W
I appreciate this, WWB, especially after the grilling I gave you about proposed edits to the Hedge fund article! The fact that you and your clients are persistent, willing to be open about your associations, and willing to abide by Wikimedia's CoI's standards even if it makes adding content take a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement on Wikipedia from participating communications firms

2014-06-12 Thread Pine W
Hi Kevin, I agree that the volunteer bandwidth for reviewing requested edits on English Wikipedia is a constraint. There are several backlogged queues on English Wikipedia at the moment, and I would be interested in hearing ideas for how to shrink the backlogs. We can discuss on the English

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Israel’s Ministry of Education Wikimedia Israel Agree On New, Unique Initiative

2014-06-15 Thread Pine W
Hi Yves, The Wikimedia Foundation runs a project called the Arab World Education Program that I hear is successful. You can read about it on the Wikimedia Blog and in the This Month in Education newsletter. I haven't heard of an Arab country providing a national-level endorsement to the program

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner and chapter members

2014-06-19 Thread Pine W
I recall hearing about this idea before at least once. I'm emailing this to Steven Walling to get input from the Growth team. It's an interesting idea especially if WMDE tried it and had success. Pine On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:29 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Wmde

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 23 -- 18 June 2014

2014-06-22 Thread Pine W
Thanks for acknowledging us. (: Pine On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Richard Ames rich...@ames.id.au wrote: I would like to publicly thank the contributors to the Signpost; most are listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom Thanks, Richard.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Joint office Jakarta - Wikimedia Indonesia, HOT Open Street Map, and World Wide Web Foundation

2014-06-23 Thread Pine W
Oh, I like hearing about collaborations like this! We are working on collaborations with other open source groups here in United States Cascadia also. (The existence of our Cascadia group is pending approval from Affcom.) In addition to sharing a building, are you sharing administrative staff or

[Wikimedia-l] Wicnik reminder

2014-06-23 Thread Pine W
This is a reminder mostly for US Wikimedians and US-based WMF office employees but also in case Wikimedians in other parts of the world want to join us. Wicnik, Wikimedia's annual summer picnic event, is happening again this year. Are you signed up to participate? Bring food, sports equipment,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Joint office Jakarta - Wikimedia Indonesia, HOT Open Street Map, and World Wide Web Foundation

2014-06-24 Thread Pine W
] http://www.makingallvoicescount.org/project/open-content-in-kalimantan-wikipedia-openstreetmap-for-transparency/ . On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, I like hearing about collaborations like this! We are working on collaborations with other open source

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling

2014-06-26 Thread Pine W
I will add this to my ever-growing list of possible projects for Cascadia. There are a few other projects under consideration that have received little WMF support but I feel are movement-aligned and would interest the public or the contributor base. In order for Cascadia to work on these

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Education Program update: Rod Dunican is leaving the Foundation

2014-06-27 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the update, Anasuya. As you have probably heard, I'm currently working on an article for the Signpost about the education program, and I might have a few questions for you off-list sometime in the next several days or next week. Pine On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Anasuya

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Pine W
Trillium, I am having difficulty understanding how retaining copies of possibly forged identification documents helps anyone with holding accountable any rogue functionary or OTRS user. Can you explain that please? Surely someone who intends to misuse the tools will be smart enough to forge an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Pine W
Hi Pajz, The idea that a previously trustworthy functionary or OTRS volunteer might later go rogue has occurred to me, so let's work with that example for a moment. Let's hypothesize that we have a good way (90% confidence) of verifying all submitted identity documents and that those documents

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)

2014-07-02 Thread Pine W
Hm. If we're assigning some special status to Meta-level committees, there are many more of them in addition to the Board, AffCom and FDC. Just to name some of them: we have 4 grants committees that I know of, the board's Audit Committee which has some non-Board members, the Research Committee,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rethink of observability

2014-07-02 Thread Pine W
Hi Mingli, may I suggest that you post some of your interesting thoughts in IdeaLab so that others can work with them and build on them? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Idealab Pine On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the addendum. :-)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comment on the content, not the contributor - with staff?

2014-07-03 Thread Pine W
In the past, this mailing list has been used for discussions of staff conduct, which I am not sure is the best idea when identifiable people are involved. I suggest that a first line of approach would be to discuss the matter civilly with the people directly involved including the employee and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation

2014-07-03 Thread Pine W
Nice work. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: David, thanks for posting that link here. Magnus, it looks like you've made (yet another) excellent tool, and described the problem it aims to alleviate in an eloquent and accessible way. Great to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

2014-07-03 Thread Pine W
Sounds like a local issue for ES wiki. I'll ask Hahc21 to look at this. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com wrote: es.wiki creating user pages Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200 From: nemow...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] red cross

2014-07-03 Thread Pine W
Definitely the ICRC sounds like a good partner organization. My first thought is that it would be good if they made their photography available on Commons. There might also be some opportunities for collaboration in Wikipedia Zero-like accessibility initiatives, and with the Wiki Med Foundation.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Monthly report of activities in Belgium: June

2014-07-03 Thread Pine W
Thank you Romaine. It's nice to hear of Wikimedia Belgium's progress. Those photos are making me hungry. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: (Translations of this report are also available in Dutch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comment on the content, not the contributor - with staff?

2014-07-03 Thread Pine W
trustees. I am including Gayle on this email. She may be away from her email due to the US holiday weekend but I hope she will comment when she is available. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/07/14 18:16, Pine W wrote: In the past, this mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

2014-07-04 Thread Pine W
in the deletions? Thanks. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Harold Hidalgo hah...@gmail.com wrote: How can I help? 2014-07-04 0:20 GMT-04:30 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: Sounds like a local issue for ES wiki. I'll ask Hahc21 to look at this. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Leigh

[Wikimedia-l] Wiknic reports and photos

2014-07-07 Thread Pine W
Wiknic New York City 2014: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6,_2014_one.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6,_2014_two.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6,_2014_three.jpg

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Human Resources Office Hour with Gayle

2014-07-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Patrick, Can I request that there be a policy that from now on all WMF office hours will be announced at least two weeks in advance? Many of us have schedules that we need to shuffle to attend meetings especially on short notice. Thanks, Pine On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Pine W wiki.p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiknic reports and photos

2014-07-08 Thread Pine W
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Wiknic New York City 2014: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6,_2014_one.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6,_2014_two.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2014-15 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2014-07-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Tilman, 1. Would WMF please document in the FAQ that Global Education, excluding the US/CAN program, is funded and managed through Grantmaking, and the US/CAN Education Program is run through the independent Wiki Education Foundation? 2. Would someone please produce a redline version of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W
I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does Geographic diversity for the board as a whole mean as a skill? Thanks, Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W
I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly needs people with management expertise. Pine On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/07/2014, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W
for sharing this with the community. 2014-07-09 9:56 GMT+02:00 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly needs people with management expertise. Pine On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/07/2014

[Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W
This discussion has closed on English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_Viewer/June_2014_RfC Will WMF deactivate MediaViewer on English Wikipedia per community consensus? Also, as WMF probably knows, Commons is currently having a similar discussion:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2014-15 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W
, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tilman, 1. Would WMF please document in the FAQ that Global Education, excluding the US/CAN program, is funded and managed through Grantmaking, and the US/CAN Education Program is run through the independent Wiki Education

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2014-15 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2014-07-11 Thread Pine W
those working on this program have, over the years, done an admirable job of working through the inevitable disagreements. Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-11 Thread Pine W
Just a note that I am drafting a request to the Board about governance of WMF product launches. Similar problems have happened enough times that I think the Board needs to step in with a more active role. I am also taking a look at the policies around office actions as they relate to product

[Wikimedia-l] Thank you Mobile team

2014-07-11 Thread Pine W
While we're talking about technology issues on WIkimedia-l, I'd like to say that now that I've worked my way over a few speedbumps with mobile editing I'm happy with the direction that mobile editing is going, so thank you Mobile team. Pine ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-12 Thread Pine W
I have made a suggestion to the WMF Board. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Suggestion_for_the_Board:_Technology_Committee In the near future, I plan to look at the policies surrounding office actions as they apply to product decisions made by local

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-13 Thread Pine W
I have requested that the Board clarify WMF policy about office actions with regard to the software features of wikis. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Request:_clarify_policy_for_on-wiki_Office_actions Pine On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Pine W wiki.p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-13 Thread Pine W
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Media_Viewer/June_2014_RfC#Proposal_to_reach_consistency.2Fagreement_first.2C_before_actioning_this_RfC Gryllida. On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, at 15:03, Pine W wrote: This discussion has closed on English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_Viewer

[Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Pine W
Hi community members, I'm wondering how many people might be interested in having an IRC meeting regarding the community's relationship to WMF and potentially developing our own strategic plan that would be independent of WMF. In the past few days I've heard some defense of WMF but mainly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-15 Thread Pine W
Hi all, OK, I've been reading this plus the emails that I got off-list. It seems that there are a lot of diverse ideas and priorities, and probably the best way to gather and prioritize them is through a strategic planning process somewhat like what WMF and the community did in the last time

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-15 Thread Pine W
Hi all, I am willing to support a more detailed RfC policy that describes where and how notices should be distributed for different kinds of RfCs, although for the MV RfC I feel notice was adequate and there was lots of opportunity for anyone who felt that notice was inadequate, including WMF, to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comment on the content, not the contributor - with staff?

2014-07-15 Thread Pine W
Hi Isarra, I did bring this up with Gayle near the end of her office hour on July 9. The first hour of these logs is with Language Engineering and the second is with Gayle. I was hoping that she would respond on Wikimedia-l as well and I didn't want to speak for her which is why I didn't comment

[Wikimedia-l] US National Archives to upload all holdings to Wikimedia Commons

2014-07-17 Thread Pine W
For those who may have missed the Signpost coverage: the US National Archives included Wikimedia in their 2014-2016 Open Government Plan. [1] [2] [3] According to the Signpost coverage, National Archives Wikimedian-in-Residence Dominic McDevitt-Parks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dominic said

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Underwater photos and videos / WMRS Microgrants 2014

2014-07-20 Thread Pine W
In general, sarcasm on large public lists is risky, and in my experience sarcasm is best tagged with sarcasm/sarcasm or ;). Pine On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Yes, but that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Catching copy and pasting early

2014-07-21 Thread Pine W
It should be relatively easy to catch a significant percentage of those copyright violations with the assistance of automated search tools. The trick is to do it at a large scale in near-realtime, which might require some computationally intensive and bandwidth intensive work. James, can I suggest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Catching copy and pasting early

2014-07-22 Thread Pine W
James and others, I would like to encourage you to participate in the discussion now happening on the Research mailing list. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2014-July/date.html Pine On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:58 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: @ Pine: I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMCON14 - Feedback evaluation financial overview

2014-07-28 Thread Pine W
Hi Fae, Wenke and others. Wenke, thanks so much for reporting soon after your conference. This thread ties in nicely to the generalized discussion about the costs and benefits of conferences. WMF Evaluation is planning to perform an analysis of conferences this year [1]. Also, I have asked a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Egypt Wikimedians User Group

2014-07-28 Thread Pine W
In this week's Signpost we have scheduled a report about Wikipedia in Education in the Arab World. If the Egyptian user group Wikimedians would like to have one of their members interviewed for the article then please email me off-list as soon as possible. Pine On Jul 28, 2014 2:24 PM, Enock

[Wikimedia-l] Petition: Sign Your Name for Free Access to Wikipedia on Mobile Phones

2014-07-29 Thread Pine W
Petition announcement is available on the Wikimedia blog. [1] Videos are available on Wikimedia Commons, Vimeo and YouTube, in lengths from 11 to 21 minutes. The shortest version on Commons is at [2] and longest is at [3]. Pine [1]

[Wikimedia-l] Invitation: Research Hackathon on August 6 and 7

2014-07-30 Thread Pine W
The Wikimedia Research Hackathon on August 6 and 7 takes place parallel to the general Wikimania Hackathon in London. Wikimania Hackathon information is available at https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon Research Hackathon information is available at

[Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-30 Thread Pine W
There is a post on the blog saying that bitcoin is accepted but there are several questions about why WMF is asking for contact info. Is that an IRS requirement? Might want to post the reason in the blog entry. AFAIK with the nonprofits I donate to none require personal info for small

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-30 Thread Pine W
bitcoin as property (like, eg, shares) rather than currency, it triggers different - and presumably more complex - reporting requirements. Andrew. On 30 July 2014 20:20, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: There is a post on the blog saying that bitcoin is accepted but there are several

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-30 Thread Pine W
as laws in other countries. For example, we are required to send a receipt for tax purposes to U.S. donors who give over a certain amount and we have already today received gifts through bitcoin over that threshold. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Nonprofits

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-30 Thread Pine W
, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lisa, Hm, that is different from my understanding of the IRC. You are required to offer a receipt, not to actually send one if the donor declines, right? Then you could have a checkbox to disable personal info and the receipt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-30 Thread Pine W
at 2:39 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: In the crowdsourced world, I like to think that we evaluate ideas and programs based on their merits rather than who makes a decision. I grant that some heirarchy is good and necessary, and in this case the heirarchy made a reasoned decision

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-30 Thread Pine W
for every scenario like this, we find it safest just to ask for the information. Best, Lisa On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Heh. If this discussion gets too technical we can move it off-list. At the moment if Fundraising just wants to say we'll work

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-31 Thread Pine W
This may be technically possible but it may also be time consuming to implement, and and in the interest of using Fundriasing Tech time in optimal ways it may be that preserving donor anonymity from the IRS is a lower priority if the Foundation can meet its fundraising goals without doing this. I

[Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-07-31 Thread Pine W
In today's WMF Metrics and Activities Meeting [1] Jessie Wild's presentation starting around 1:05:00 compared the meta-level grantmaking programs. The presentation is about 12 minutes long. Jessie, I have two questions, and other people may want to ask questions as well. 1. I'm aware that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-07-31 Thread Pine W
Hi Jessie, Thanks for the quick reply. Issue 1 may be challenging to measure even with Wikimetrics. Can we talk about this during the Research Hackathon next week if we can set up a time off-list? Thanks for the info about issue 2. I am grateful to learn that you did an evaluation of PEG. It is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Pine W
to me that WMF is a funder that cares about _movement resources_, including volunteer time, and not just dollars out of its own budget. A. On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jessie, Thanks for the quick reply. Issue 1 may be challenging

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Library: June/July Books and Bytes Newsletter and Final Report

2014-08-01 Thread Pine W
Thanks Jake. TWL was used as a positive example by Jessie Wild in her grant programs evaluation. Pine On Aug 1, 2014 10:54 AM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, The June/July double-issue of our Books Bytes Newsletter is out:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Egypt Wikimedians User Group

2014-08-01 Thread Pine W
Thanks to the Egyptian Wikipedians for their swift responses to Signpost inquiries, this week's Signpost Education Report will include a focused discussion about Egypt, in addition to the planned report about the Education Program in the broader Arab world. For those who haven't been following

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Kenya - copyright infringement

2014-08-03 Thread Pine W
I took a look at this. From my brief investigation, this appears to be a good-faith effort by someone to locally host a Kenyan version of Wikipedia. The donation button properly links to https://donate.wikimedia.org. The server geolocates to Estonia. I am forwarding this report to Legal. I hope

[Wikimedia-l] Multilingual office hours

2014-08-04 Thread Pine W
Most office hours are understandably in English, but I for one would be interested in supporting language diversity in our office hours. I believe that at least three WMF employees in the Grantmaking Department speak some Spanish, and Spanish is spoken by a large percentage of the global south,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Multilingual office hours

2014-08-04 Thread Pine W
are able to speak it, would be more feasible. Am 04.08.2014 21:39 schrieb Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: Most office hours are understandably in English, but I for one would be interested in supporting language diversity in our office hours. I believe that at least three WMF employees

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-05 Thread Pine W
Hm. I wonder if the engineering community liason role could be adapted to address the suggestIons here. Also I would like to know what the liasons currently do besides file bug reports and respond to dev process questions, which are good to do but not what I would call strategic change management.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-06 Thread Pine W
, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: MzMcbride, I'm not sure that WMF is overstaffed, but I would like to see more specific performance metrics for some groups. The FDC commented on this as well

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-06 Thread Pine W
6, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hm. Garfield is the closest person I know in the Foundation to the FDC in its role of evaluating the Foundation's Annual Plan for the entire organization. The only other people I can think of who might be able to comment for the whole

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] Transparency and right to be forgotten notices from search engines

2014-08-06 Thread Pine W
I see how you could read it that way, but remember that to be included on Wikipedia information should be notable and written in NPOV fashion, and the BLP policy applies. If someone wants to contest information in their BLP we have more subtle tools for handling disputes than pure removal,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] Transparency and right to be forgotten notices from search engines

2014-08-07 Thread Pine W
it might be possible to work some of them out e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gerry_Hutch#Removal_from_Google_Search Simon -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W Sent: 07 August 2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread Pine W
Quim, can you clarify your comments about the Technology Committee? The committee is my proposal as a community member; it is not a top-down, Board-created idea. Its membership is designed to be broadly representative of the MediaWiki user community. The Board mandate is necessary to give TechCom

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-08 Thread Pine W
Quoting MZMcBride: ...the two issues (a rush to deploy features versus resource allocation for unwanted features), while sometimes intertwined, can certainly also be discrete. I agree with you in this point, and the Technical Committee is intended in part to improve both situations. Quoting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-09 Thread Pine W
? Pine On Aug 8, 2014 1:10 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Quim, it seems to me that the methods used by Features have repeatedly produced troubled results over the years, so it's time for a different approach. Note

[Wikimedia-l] Lila's keynote speech at Wikimania 2014

2014-08-09 Thread Pine W
Hi all, I would like to encourage those of us who may have missed Lila's keynote speech at Wikimania to listen to it. [1] In her speech, Lila takes a long view of Wikimedia's history and future. She talks about incremental and disruptive changes that are happening socially and technologically

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread Pine W
Lila, I hope you are aware of the issues being described in this thread. Would you please state your views on this situation? Pine On Aug 10, 2014 6:09 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski twkozlow...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 August 2014 01:05, John Lewis wrote: The people who were actually responsible

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-12 Thread Pine W
FWIW, Lila's comments were made before the start of this email thread about superprotect. Pine On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding comments from Lila from https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALilaTretikovdiff=9454366oldid=9339030

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-12 Thread Pine W
Straniu, Jimbo's comments in his keynote about forking concerned encouraging competent editors who can't work cooperatively with other people to fork in a way that would be better for everyone in the long run. I don't believe this disappointing confrontation between the WMF and volunteers were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-14 Thread Pine W
FYI, Lila had chosen to engage in discussion on her meta talk page. Numerous editors are commenting there. Discussion also continues on the meta RFC and on the English Wikipedia arbitration workshop page. Pine On Aug 14, 2014 12:03 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Erik On Thu,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread Pine W
Gerard, I believe that the disputes about MediaViewer are mostly about the desktop platform's version, as most editors use the desktop platform to edit. In general terms, I have yet to hear someone say that the Mobile platform is a low development priority. I am familiar with Mobile-l. Mobile

[Wikimedia-l] Recruiting for Wikimedia security newsletter

2014-08-18 Thread Pine W
Hi, In collaboration with Chris Steipp, I am considering starting a monthly security newsletter for Wikimedia, focused on common risks and mitigation techniques. The target audience is the broad Wikimedia community including developers, WMF and chapter employees, and volunteers with high risk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recruiting for Wikimedia security newsletter

2014-08-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Wil, Yes, this newsletter will be similar to those on the page you linked. The relevance of an article about check fraud is that Wikimedia thematic organizations should be aware of financial security issues that could impact them, and check fraud is one of those issues. Yes, a how-to article

[Wikimedia-l] Accounting software for thematic orgs

2014-08-19 Thread Pine W
Hi all, There are online small business accounting software packages. Do any thematic orgs have experience with them? Any recommendations? I am thinking about proposing Quickbooks Online for the Cascadia user group, but as this Forbes article says, there are competitors:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-20 Thread Pine W
Erik, I am curious to hear your thoughts about the proposed Technology Committee. That idea has some community support and had been discussed at some length on the WMF Board Noticeboard. Pine On Aug 19, 2014 11:55 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:48 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-24 Thread Pine W
Yes, we could look at Google's infoboxes as doing us a favor because they decrease the load on our servers. We would need to account for those views in some way if we are interested in quantifying success in the sense of total views of our content regardless of where it is reproduced. However, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-24 Thread Pine W
I have heard very few people say don't ever change the interface. I have heard people say don't force an interface change on me that I don't think is an improvement. VE was a good example. The sentiment of the community wasn't that VE''s concept is wrong, it's that the implementation and rollout

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-25 Thread Pine W
The issue is not just that individual users may want to opt out, it's whether it should be activated by default for readers. There is also the matter of licensing information. I'm not aware of where thermonuclear was was threatened. There were, and continues to be, discussion about forking. MV is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-28 Thread Pine W
widely that changes will be considered as long as they are reasonable and do not interfere with our prime directive. Again, it is about the readers not super users. Thanks, GerardM On 25 August 2014 11:16, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is not just that individual users may

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-31 Thread Pine W
Just in terms of the amount of everyone's time that MediaViewer, Superprotect and related issues are absorbing, this situation is a net negative for the projects. Also, the amount of emotional hostility that this situation involves is disheartening. Personally, I would like to see us building on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-01 Thread Pine W
martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 31, 2014 11:46 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Just in terms of the amount of everyone's time that MediaViewer, Superprotect and related issues are absorbing, this situation is a net negative for the projects. Also, the amount

[Wikimedia-l] add use of wikimetrics to my resume

2014-09-05 Thread Pine W
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] add use of wikimetrics to my resume

2014-09-05 Thread Pine W
Sorry, that was intended as a note to self. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikimedia-l] Where should we organize ideas for the Strategic Plan update?

2014-09-05 Thread Pine W
Heh. That was not my first time when I started typing my email address and instead Gmail autofilled wikimedia-l. This is what I get for choosing wiki.pine instead of pine.wiki. I need some coffee or more sleep. Anyway, this is what was supposed to go to Wikimedia-l: Do we have a central place

Re: [Wikimedia-l] add use of wikimetrics to my resume

2014-09-05 Thread Pine W
liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Note to self: Add Familiarity with dangers of the 'reply-all' and 'auto-complete address' functions in e-mail clients. ;-) -Liam On 5 September 2014 13:52, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, that was intended as a note to self. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-05 Thread Pine W
FWIW, ironically the tangled discussions about MediaViewer across multiple pages have made me think that having a more organized way to read discussions would be a good idea. My understanding is that this is one of Flow's objectives. If Flow can achieve this in a way that is helpful and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015 [UPDATE]

2014-09-05 Thread Pine W
Hi Varnet, I have emailed Affcom or individual members on more than one occasion for an update about the Cascadia Wikimedians user group application. We finished our response to Affcom's last question on August 7, which was almost a month ago. We have projects that we would like to start that are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-06 Thread Pine W
Something that that would be useful is a video demonstration of Flow in action. I like the goal of VE in principle, and I hear lots of comments to the effect that it is improving over time. MediaViewer seems to be on the road to improvement. I understand where both of those are headed. But I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow - it does not flow

2014-09-06 Thread Pine W
rik, I appreciate your engaging with this *early* enough for design decisions to be adjusted before Flow gets to major rollouts. Romaine, if the Dutch uses of features like templates are not being taken into account in how features are designed, I suggest contacting the Engineering community

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