Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:30:45 -0600, James Heilman wrote: @Yaroslov 1) A merger within a WMF project is supported by admins from both WT and WV. WV is going to be meeting on the possibility of merging June 9th in Germany 2) Wikimedia's mission is to provide freely available educational

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

2012-04-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:44:48 +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: Whether they also want to socialise with other editors is somewhat a secondary consideration/distraction. I disagree. A lot. Of course that is your prerogative. But I think in holding that view you've critically lost sight of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

2012-04-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Consider, for example, that Zynga and Facebook have successfully managed to get millions of people to log in at all hours of the night to milk virtualcows and harvest virtual beans (or whatever it is that people actually do in Farmville). Could we do something similar to drive particpation,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: European Mathematical Society and Springer create Encyclopedia of Mathematics wiki...

2012-04-20 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
As the librarian who sent this around said why wouldn't mathematicians who were so inclined just contribute to Wikipedia articles instead? There is some debate about that point on the EoM talk page. http://www.encyclopediaofmath.org/index.php/Talk:EoM:This_project#EoM_and_WP This does raise

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: European Mathematical Society and Springer create Encyclopedia of Mathematics wiki...

2012-04-20 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I am very much in favour of including other wikis in external links and references because I think it is a big mistake that Wikimedia projects isolate each other from the rest of the wikisphere. We do not treasure other wikis enough, behaving as though we were different from them, even better,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User retention statistics?

2012-04-22 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Thank you all for the replies, I need some time to process this information. Cheers Yaroslav 1. What is the average lifetime of a Wikipedia editor (for instance the one with at leat 1000 contributions)? I recollect smth about two years, but I am pretty sure I have never seen any research on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedians in Other Languages Needed

2012-04-24 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:40:20 -0600, James Heilman wrote: Hello All The project we have been working on to develop medical content and translate it into other languages is going well. We have an initial set of 13 top importance GAs ready for translation by Translators Without Borders. Article

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 29 May 2012 13:23:25 +0100, Tom Morris wrote: On 29 May 2012 13:08, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: The difference is that Wikipedia is usable in the real world, whereas OSM, for the most part, is not. Yes, TomTom is dying.  But it's because of Google, not because of OSM. I'd

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:22:12 +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russian). Unless I am missing something key; whilst this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:07:48 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, very encouraging. We should suggest to the various language Wikipedias that they monitor laws in their home country, and each time one is considered (or even proposed!)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:47:25 +0200, Nikola Smolenski wrote: On 11/07/12 09:40, Milos Rancic wrote: Yep, I forgot it. BTW, note the comments below RIA Novosti news on Russian Wikipedia strike [1]. That baseline fluctuates a lot :) [1] http://en.ria.ru/society/20120710/174509543.html By the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:21:26 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: Milos, do you have any evidence that what you have written is correct? Just a single fact? So far the law was accepted in the second reading basically unchanged

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:23:22 +0200, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: Ok, let me may be provide a bit of a background. 1) The law is formally directed against child pornography, drug trafficking, hate between religions etc. The idea is that every website (whatever it means) where information

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:14:48 -0400, Anthony wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: The law just passed the third reading without any changes. It has to be now signed by the president and will be enforced in the present form on November 1, 2012

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:34:46 -0400, Nathan wrote: Is there a service provider exemption for entities like Wikimedia in Russia? Not that I know of. Is it possible that making the Russian Wikipedia inaccessible for a period in order to protest a Russian law might be considered political

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:37:57 -0400, Kirill Lokshin wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Svip svi...@gmail.com wrote: Consider, for example, article number 4 million: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izbat_Al_Burj. It's a city of some 70,000 people -- is anyone really going to claim that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:28:36 -0400, Michael Peel wrote: On 14 Jul 2012, at 14:01, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: This is actually a very good example. The article was started by Dr. Blofield who is widely known as geostub creator. Nope. Take a look in the article history - it was created

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:13:27 +, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov wrote: You can always check the list of users identified to the Foundation: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Identification_noticeboard Alex Which means the answer is no: not all committee members have been identified. Cheers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:13:05 -0300, Béria Lima wrote: The question is: They will? (For disclosure, I'm a member of GAC - since the beginning last year - and I'm identified since 2008.) _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

2012-07-27 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Irrespectively of the en.wp Arbcom decision (which I do not want to discuss and I am not qualified to discuss) I think it is a very good thing that wm.uk issued a statement. I wish other Chapters would follow the lead, if needed. When Vladimir Medeyko, the president of wm.ru, and, I believe,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-29 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Well, despite my best efforts, the discussion has been redirected back to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget#2012-13 In other words, it is now on the bottom of a discussion page that has not been touched in 3 years simply because it says something about the WMF budget.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects

2012-07-29 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Is it really only a problem of language? Why should the WMF meet ArbCom members, for instance? It doesn't seem a suitable way to understand a community. I'm not saying that there are easy alternatives of course. :-) Nemo For instance, Russian Wikipedia community is strongly divided for already

Re: [Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects

2012-08-05 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:12:08 +0200, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, I repeat my proposal that every wiki-website (project) should install a (international) contact person, and these contact persons should be following a mailing list with specified information for them. They inform the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] commons promotion

2012-09-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:48:28 +0200, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: Hey Agreed that we might want to focus on wikipedia as a destination for the pictures (please donate your pictures for use on wikipedia) Jan-Bart Btw it occurred to me that we never (to the best of my knowledge) tun a Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CNET News: Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia

2012-09-19 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:39:52 -0600 (MDT), Fred Bauder wrote: Spotted this in my news feed, http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/ sincerely, Kim Bruning Promoting of Gibraltar, and warring over it, is not a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please can someone put 50p in the meter

2012-10-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:33:28 -0400, Alhen wrote: All normal in Bolivia. Alhen @alhen_ alhen at wikipedia, wikihow, wikispaces, and most places. Promotor de Wikimedia Bolivia 00-591-79592235 For me it is intermittent: sometimes it works today, sometimes it does not. Right now it is ok.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:44:49 +0200, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board vote on narrowing focus

2012-11-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
BTW, a lot of the organizing work for Wiki Loves Monuments in the US was done by three volunteer Wikimedians who also happen to be WMF employees (Kaldari, Sarah and Matthew), but did this in their spare time. Not trying to underestimate their contribution, I am afraid this is better worded

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Under block threat on fr.wp because of request on meta

2012-11-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:55:42 -0400, Newyorkbrad wrote: The more intriguing question to me, as an editor who has been a member of the English WP ArbCom for five years, is why French has decided to no longer have an ArbCom. Or is it just that there is disagreement about the membership or method

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A place for project wide discussions

2012-11-16 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:07:56 +0100, Juergen Fenn wrote: 2012/11/16 Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl: I agree to Ziko's point of view. I think we are at a crucial point in the Wikimedia movement because we now have the opportunity to finally create a common village pump for all projects. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-12-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Today, the outgoing Arbitration Committee of Russian Wikipedia finally decided that the decision to go on strike was too hasty, and the community consensus was not established. One of the organizers of the poll on the strike, as well as the admin who technically switched the access off, were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:41:06 +0100, Nikola Smolenski wrote: I guess I could write much more. But at the end, I have no solution. I could imagine some partial solutions for some of the problems, but nothing that could really bring Wikipedia to days of old. Certainly, it will not. For the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-05 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:56:52 -0600, Mark wrote: On 1/4/13 9:57 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:41:06 +0100, Nikola Smolenski wrote: I guess I could write much more. But at the end, I have no solution. I could imagine some partial solutions for some of the problems

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-05 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 03:11:03 +, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: The lack of flagged revisions is a key contributor to this state of affairs. The English Wikipedia is ridiculously vulnerable to vandalism. Is it surprising that that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-09 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:32:00 +0100, Nikola Smolenski wrote: On 09/01/13 10:03, Kim Bruning wrote: Having said that, there have been suggestions to introduce social networking features in Wikipedia. WikiLove is a step in that direction. So, what could be the next step? Befriend users and see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:24:12 +, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: David Gerard, 09/01/2013 00:32: This has often made people wonder if the causes are external (Facebook? Facebook is also almost non-existing in Russia,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:59:28 +0100, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Yaroslav M. Blanter, 10/01/2013 18:11: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:24:12 +, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: No, incorrect. Facebook exists in Russia and is somehow

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:34:46 +0530, Yann Forget wrote: Hello, I agree totally with Tim's assessments of the situation, and it is quite the same on the French WP, and that's why I stopped editing there. Happy New Year to all, Yann Welcome to the club. I retired from Russian Wikipedia about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors

2013-01-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:37:56 +0200, Rui Correia wrote: Dear Colleagues Let me start off by pointing out the fact that I am never sure about exactly what issues are handled on this list and secondly when are the issues of a specific language Wikipedia handled among that community and when are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors

2013-01-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:46:57 +0100, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: On the other hand, nothing ever will be done about it outside these projects. I do not see WMF ever stepping down, under any circumstances. One can open RFC on Meta, which has 100% chance of Sorry, obviously meant stepping

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard

2013-01-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:45:52 -0800, Steven Walling wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: As one step toward properly welcoming Wikivoyagers... are many of them on this list? It would be cool to get some replies and short introductions from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:30:13 -0600, Keegan Peterzell wrote: Greetings, ... This is the first of further future documentation of traffic received to the general OTRS queues. In the report you will find data breakdowns for OTRS admin logged action, all info queues, breakdowns of info queues

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:56:58 -0500, Rjd0060 wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: All info queues and permissions queues were included in this report. If a language is not listed, it is because there is no queue for that particular language

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:12:17 -0500, Rjd0060 wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: Thanks for your response. I actually meant not the list of queues, but the list of queues for which breakdowns are available - they only exist in four of five

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Legalised Piracy

2013-01-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I'm not sure what this means for the movement - I'm sure there will be a long and lively discussion - but it's a very interesting turn of events in IP law. Well, on the one hand wikimedia host works in US, on the other hand, how many works/articles hosted by wikimedia whom all authors are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strange, surprising, bold and unnecessary - reply to the WMF board statement

2013-02-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:18:34 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: Pretty much everything the WMF and chapters do is stuff editors don't care about. If editors cared about it, they would do it themselves and they would be WMF and chapter people not editors (some people manage to be both, although it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project

2013-02-08 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:57:41 +, Andy Mabbett wrote: I'd like to ask your support the project I started: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/ asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample of their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian internet censorship

2013-02-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:43:25 -0600, Samuel Klein wrote: Russia seems to be experimenting with Internet blacklist and whitelist programs. Is ru:wp likely to be affected by this? http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/02/03/russian-internet-censorship-imitates-satire/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiWomen's History Month

2013-02-15 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:18:52 -0800, Sarah Stierch wrote: [Pardon the cross-posts - and the English message] - Please forward as well! Hi everyone, March is Women's History Month, and this will be the second year for WikiWomen's History Month, an *international* collaborative event that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiWomen's History Month

2013-02-15 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:10:40 -0800, Sarah Stierch wrote: Hi Yaroslav, I'm pretty limited on my volunteer time right now due to my work, but, you can find a to-do list that is being build out (at least for English Wikipedia) here:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2013 scholarship now accepting application

2013-02-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:52:13 +0100, Lodewijk wrote: oh... so replying with I will bring my own food wasn't such a good idea after all? ;-) I guess if you have written somewhere that you are Dutch this one becomes redundant. Everybody knows that Dutch bring their own food everywhere.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?

2013-03-05 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 05.03.2013 15:38, Andrew Gray wrote: On 5 March 2013 14:34, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I today discovered and nominated for deletion a large hoax article written in 2008 (Yuri Gadyukin on en.wp). Is this the longest ever living hoax we had on any project, or were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of a Wikipedia article

2013-04-05 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Do not they have Swiss, Canadian, and Balgian administrators to restore the article? Cheers Yaroslav On 05.04.2013 19:41, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote: Hi there, I guess you might be interested to hear that Direction Centrale du Renseignement Intérieur (Central Directorate of Interior

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LangCom work now fully transparent

2013-04-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 17.04.2013 10:42, Milos Rancic wrote: The [new] list of the Language committee [1] is now open for read-only subscribers. The new archives will be open. During the previous two years any valid member of the community could apply for observer status. Since a week ago, everybody can follow the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 30.04.2013 01:12, Florence Devouard wrote: Le 4/30/13 12:04 AM, Nathan a écrit : In the past years, we have seen several times organizers of Wikimania plain disappear after the event. Burn-out. I do not think it is a good outcome. For no-one. And I do not think it is a good idea to slap a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board FDC elections?

2013-04-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 30.04.2013 12:14, James Alexander wrote: Very side note: I'm not sure if you're talking in the past sense or not here but I did want to stick up for Wikiversity a bit here in the more presente tense. I don't think I've checked in the past couple weeks but I've trolled the recent changes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania

2013-04-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 30.04.2013 13:23, Katie Chan wrote: On 30/04/2013 11:49, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: My personal experience after being an active program committee member on the 2010 Wikimania Organizing Committee was that my activity there (and I believe in the end of the day we did a good job

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 11.05.2013 21:26, David Gerard wrote: On 11 May 2013 19:45, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: i would have expected a movement blog behind this URL, appropriate to the usage of the domain, but i am not sure if i am completely misreading this? Comcom has been actively seeking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 12.05.2013 20:44, Florence Devouard wrote: The multilingualism we hoped so dearly has always been an issue. It is poorly dealt with on the Wikimedia Foundation blog. Poorly dealt with on the Foundation Wiki. Poorly dealt with on OTRS. :( Florence If someone approaches me and asks to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Given that the deadline for the list moderators passed several days ago, may be could voluntarily stop at this point with the thread and not really try to figure out whether moderators are needed? Cheers Yaroslav On 13.05.2013 13:57, Huib Laurens wrote: I take the asshole back. Sorry for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.05.2013 14:07, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: This isn't a comment aimed at anyone in particular, so I'm not going to quote anybody, but can we please stop hijacking this thread, and posting about how Wikimedia Foundation staff are also humans and how the WMF was badly organised X years ago —

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-25 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Nemo, I think someone posted a list of good questions in this thread awhile back. I tried to find them but I gave up after ten minutes. If you can find them would you please repost them? If you can't find them either then I'd ask you to repeat the questions that you remember and think are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] evaluation of electronics articles

2013-05-28 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 28.05.2013 19:40, phoebe ayers wrote: I ran across this paragraph in the preface to O'Reilly's new book Encyclopedia of Electronic Components. [1] I'm not sure that I've ever seen an evaluation of Wikipedia's electronics coverage before, but to me this sounds like a pretty good description

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Simple English hits 100k this week

2013-05-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 30.05.2013 04:36, Sarah Stierch wrote: And...urm...I wrote the article that hit 100k. That's not the point, but, just felt the need to preface... http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Announcements#May_29.2C_2013 Simple English is a Wikipedia that is for children and adults learning

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 03.06.2013 14:29, David Gerard wrote: On 3 June 2013 13:22, Lionel Allorge (lionel.allo...@lunerouge.org) lionel.allo...@lunerouge.org wrote: If it is so urgent, why start a new contest ? It would be a lot faster to take the second best choice from the first contest. This was the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again

2013-07-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 10.07.2013 20:45, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: Hi again, so I spent some time looking into the problem and wrote a short summary at http://twkozlowski.net/russian-wikipedia-under-threat-again/ (shameless promotion mode=off /) -- if anyone cares about what's happening outside of the US, that is.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process

2013-07-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 17.07.2013 07:03, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: David Cuenca, 17/07/2013 00:36: Thanks for pointing that out, I have seen that there is a proposed process https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_project_process#Adopting_an_existing_project_into_Wikimedia However it is not that clear what is the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 06.08.2013 20:03, Nathan wrote: I'll take on faith that anti-Americanism doesn't explain why you jump to this conclusion when there are many that make more sense, but how do you explain then the fact that the English Wikipedia (which, presumably, has a similar North American bias) is having

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The failure of Google, looking for open source alternatives

2013-08-25 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 25.08.2013 11:58, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: Bear in mind that OSM is a community such as we are, with its own habits and ideas. The idea of OSM is to have everything in one databse which structure is very open. You can actually put there almost everything which can be connected with the points,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

2013-10-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 02.10.2013 14:03, Florence Devouard wrote: Dear friends It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, Kumusha Takes Wiki. Hi Florence, you may want to look at WikiVoyage as well. There, we badly need reasonable info on Africa, and it can come without sources as soon as it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Overloaded with CentralNotices

2013-10-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Concerning FDC and similar notices: Could we may be once ask users to sign up for possible evaluations, and then send to those who signed up messages via the echo? (With no obligation to actually participate)? Basically meta-active users would sign up, and others would stop getting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 14.12.2013 21:28, phoebe ayers wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I think this is an interesting point, but I'm not entirely sure I follow don't we always worry about verifiability for images? We certainly try to ensure that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Public Domain Day

2014-01-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 03.01.2014 15:03, Romaine Wiki wrote: hello all! January 1st was Public Domain Day [1] and after xx years of copyright, it expires on the first of January of the year after. As result hundreds of images were restored on Commons on the 1-1-2014, but many of them did not get a place in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-08 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 08.01.2014 15:22, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Hi, Is there any plan to allow using the Thanks feature to thank anonymous Wikimedia users? A Hebrew Wikipedia user asked me about this, saying that it may be even more useful to thank anons than logged-in users. How would they know someone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.01.2014 23:57, Risker wrote: I dunno, guys. I certainly would take a talk page message over a mechanical thank any day of the week. More particularly, I notice a significant trend in using thank notifications to express agreement with people without having to actually say yeah, I agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 14.01.2014 15:53, David Gerard wrote: On 14 January 2014 14:42, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: What does indeed make a difference and creates a sense of human interaction is custom messaging over templated messaging. It's the human interaction bit. I was *delighted* when I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 09.04.2014 21:03, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot imagine discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it so I wouldn't miss all those interesting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 10 years of wikimedia-l

2014-04-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 18.04.2014 00:13, phoebe ayers wrote: Hello everyone! ... -- phoebe Thanks Phoebe for - how should I say - an exciting post? I enjoyed reading it a lot. And, well, yes - happy birthday to all of us. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 17.06.2014 16:47, Osmar Valdebenito wrote: If you take a look at the undeletion requests after the URAA discussion, most of the images restored were deleted afterwards anyway.[1][2] The only exception that I've seen are some German stamps that haven't been deleted (yet). The problem is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 17.06.2014 18:13, Jeevan Jose wrote: Accidentally, I have one of these FFD nomination pages on my watchlist. Yesterday it was renominated for the THIRD time by the same user (the second one was keep as well). And I can not act on it anymore. Apparently, at some point the user will get an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Underwater photos and videos / WMRS Microgrants 2014

2014-07-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 15.07.2014 06:42, Milos Rancic wrote: For the last month or so I want to share with you the initial success of the Microgrants 2014 project of Wikimedia Serbia. However, there are a number of stories and it was too much to me to write about all of them at once. So, I am splitting it, which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Underwater photos and videos / WMRS Microgrants 2014

2014-07-19 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 18.07.2014 22:05, Milos Rancic wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Jan Ainali jan.ain...@wikimedia.se wrote: I see that the video is marked CC BY-NC-ND. Will all other videos also be under that license? That's their proprietary, artistic work. We are getting scientific/educational

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 12.08.2014 02:26, svetlana wrote: If we accept the policy in principle, I don't care who enforces such policy, that be community or WMF. Such policy does not go against community entirely, unless WMF shows a will to reject community patches related to issues which community finds important.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.08.2014 02:48, svetlana wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, at 10:46, svetlana wrote: this community thinks that its power structures allow to tromp onto other people sysops aren't even held accountable they are elected once for an infinite term nobody reviews their contribution in position

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.08.2014 05:57, Pine W wrote: Two points I have heard off list are that 1. While it may be that disabling MV by default for logged-in users can be done, disabling it for those not logged-in is effectively another major UI change which a study shows likely will make some of them leave and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-21 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 21.08.2014 14:26, Risker wrote: On 21 August 2014 05:31, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: ... I went to look at some of those same articles using my smartphone with the desktop option turned on. Many of them timed out without fully loading; others took several minutes. There was a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-21 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 21.08.2014 15:24, Risker wrote: On 21 August 2014 09:18, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 21.08.2014 14:26, Risker wrote: On 21 August 2014 05:31, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: ... Many of these templates have over 100 links in them; a surprisingly large number

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-21 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 21.08.2014 21:17, Steven Walling wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Or, have them filled from Wikidata. Then, {{Infobox}} would be all the wikitext you need. This could also help to abstract infoboxes to load a placeholder/hint on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-05 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 25.08.2014 06:07, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: On 08/24/2014 11:19 PM, Pine W wrote: I have heard people say don't force an interface change on me that I don't think is an improvement. I do not recall a recent interface change deployment that wasn't accompanied with, at the very least, some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 06.09.2014 13:39, Quim Gil wrote: On Saturday, September 6, 2014, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: So we think a support forum like the Teahouse, and its equivalent in other languages may be a good place to start -- provided the hosts agree that there are no dealbreaker issues for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 06.09.2014 19:18, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, The subject is discussion / talk space not article space editing.. Yaroslav please stay on topic..Surely Marc has more than 13 edits in all kinds of discussion on multiple wikis. Thanks, GerardM On 6 September 2014 19:14, Yaroslav M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow - it does not flow

2014-09-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 06.09.2014 23:14, Romaine Wiki wrote: Hello all, I did a couple if simple tests on MediaWiki on Flow pages with often occurring edits. The tests failed. ... So, there is flow, and instead of the community can work with it as it needs to work with, it does not flow but got stuck... To

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 11.09.2014 10:53, Peter Southwood wrote: Exactly what I was thinking. Doesn’t mean it would necessarily work, but you are not alone... Cheers, Peter Actually, if I get it correctly, Wikinews uses three pages per item (news, talk, and smth else). Cheers Yaroslav -Original

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 05.10.2014 14:24, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote: Pine, IMO the minimum thresholds should be set at levels such that any staff member who has employed for a reasonable period of time is likely to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding

2014-10-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 10.10.2014 18:56, Fæ wrote: As for transparency, you are not in a strong position to lecture, considering that your behind-the-scenes actions got me banned from the English Wikipedia just a couple of days after Phillipe Beadette had a supposedly personal and private conversation with you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monument for Wikipedia in Poland

2014-10-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 10.10.2014 20:33, Michael Peel wrote: This is very, very cool. :-) I don’t suppose the monument is freely licensed? Can Creative Commons licenses even be applied to monuments? Thanks, Mike First, yes it can. A sculptor can give a permission, which would mean that every photo of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Earth Brasil - Exhibition

2014-10-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 15.10.2014 18:33, Rodrigo Padula wrote: Hello fellows! Concluding our participation and activities on Wiki Loves Earth, we organized an exhibition during the event Paraty em Foco in the historical city of Paraty - Rio de Janeiro. ... Rodrigo Padula

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

2014-11-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.11.2014 21:08, Geoff Brigham wrote: Hello rubin16 and all, ... I appreciate the additional questions, but, as these are matters currently under consideration, I'm not in a position to share further right now. Thank you, Geoff Hi Geoff, thanks for your clarification. As I guess

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 04.12.2014 02:30, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:46 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: John Mark Vandenberg wrote: i.e. specifically asking previously highly productive volunteers who have stopped contributing whether they feel the increase in funds has not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2014-12-14 06:49, Bruentrup wrote: Hi One of those 6 successful DMCA's of 2014 was filed by us. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/DMCA_India_Against_Corruption_logo I would suggest to the list moderators that every poster identified as IAC would be blocked on sight, due to the high

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