Re: [Wikimedia-l] Academics and accessible writing

2012-05-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
not a good solution. I am afraid that most of those Wikipedians who could need readability lessons are not aware of the problems they cause to readers. Kind regards Ziko -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-25 Thread Ziko van Dijk
/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht

[Wikimedia-l] Chapter report: WMNL, May and June

2012-07-22 Thread Ziko van Dijk
://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Nederland/201205 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Nederland/201206 -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Chapters Association: Standing Orders, a new proposal

2012-07-25 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, In accordance with the Chair, I have published a new proposal for standing orders of the WCA Council. More explanations here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Standing_Orders Kind regards Ziko ___ Wikimedia-l

[Wikimedia-l] Washington diary

2012-08-02 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Please allow me to send a link to my 'Washington diary' about Wikimania in Washington; it is mostly about the proceedings of the Wikimedia Chapters Association. Kind regards Ziko http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ziko/Washington_diary ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects

2012-08-04 Thread Ziko van Dijk
-- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Should we lock StrategyWiki?

2012-08-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Ziko van Dijk
-- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l

[Wikimedia-l] WCA: a short update

2012-08-24 Thread Ziko van Dijk
proud to see that the WCA attracts the chapters and would like to see more of them knocking at the door. Welcome to WMUA, and more about the WCA follows soon. Kind regards Ziko van Dijk Deputy Chair of the WCA Council ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Chapter reports WMNL

2012-09-09 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Here are the reports for the activities of Wikimedia Nederland in the months July and August 2012. Kind regards Ziko van Dijk http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Nederland/201207 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo for new travel guide

2012-10-06 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia offices

2012-11-11 Thread Ziko van Dijk
of this kind, to have a better picture of the movement. Could you have a look at that page and update it? Kind regards Ziko -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC recommendations on funds allocation, Round 1, 2012-13

2012-11-16 Thread Ziko van Dijk
it will be financed in future, and I am confident that there will be found a reasonable solution. Kind regards Ziko -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

2012-12-03 Thread Ziko van Dijk
___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: Wikimedia Foundation restructure (Global Dev Engineering)

2012-12-07 Thread Ziko van Dijk
-- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, A week ago, as I found out now, a new association has been found in New York: Wiki Med Foundation, Inc. (!). We have the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., we have some other Wikimedias, we have MediaWiki... how is the ordinary man on the street supposed to have the slightest chance to understand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Chapter reports WMNL

2013-01-06 Thread Ziko van Dijk
I don't see a reason for this tone, and I think that everyone who is interested in the reports will easily find them. Kind regards Ziko 2013/1/6 Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl: Dear Ziko, Op 5-1-2013 17:19, Ziko van Dijk schreef: Hello, See the chapter reports from the Netherlands

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Chapter reports WMNL

2013-01-06 Thread Ziko van Dijk
. :) Sarah Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2013 11:06 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: I don't see a reason for this tone, and I think that everyone who is interested in the reports will easily find

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

2013-01-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

2013-01-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe

[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard

2013-01-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
. Kind regards Ziko -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Here in the Netherlands the banner can be seen e.g. on de.wikipedia.org. I don't know what to think about it, it makes a commercial impression similar to an advert (which it actually is). Kind regards Ziko ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

[Wikimedia-l] Strange, surprising, bold and unnecessary - reply to the WMF board statement

2013-02-05 Thread Ziko van Dijk
now undue assumptions about an organization that is not even one year old. After such a statement, I honestly ask myself what should be my assumptions about the WMF board and its true intentions. Yours sincerely, Ziko van Dijk Deputy Chairman of the WCA Council Wikipedia editor since 2003

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strange, surprising, bold and unnecessary - reply to the WMF board statement

2013-02-07 Thread Ziko van Dijk
-- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l

[Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Ziko van Dijk
exiting to follow the evolution. Kind regards Ziko van Dijk -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht

[Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Wikimedia Board of Trustees On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: Dear Council Members and everyone interested in the WCA, On 16/17th February 2013 a number of Council Members visited the London Conference I had proposed in mid January to talk about the way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-21 Thread Ziko van Dijk
___ Charles ANDRES, Chairman Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 21 févr. 2013 à 16:25, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl a écrit : Hi, Michal and I will soon come up

[Wikimedia-l] Improving the knowledge about the Movement

2013-02-23 Thread Ziko van Dijk
/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Research Kind regards Ziko -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Election for WCA Chairperson

2013-02-25 Thread Ziko van Dijk
list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board FDC elections?

2013-04-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
the thorgs. Kind regards Ziko -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wikimedia.nl Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement partners

2013-04-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wikimedia.nl Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- 2013/4/29 Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com On 4/29/13 1:03 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: Hi all, Here is a question that came

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-03 Thread Ziko van Dijk
-- Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-03 Thread Ziko van Dijk
in the age of Wikileaks it is really important to make clear who is what and who. Kind regards Ziko Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-06 Thread Ziko van Dijk
mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Ah, thanks for the information. And this encyclopedia of life, isn't that the project suitable? Kind regards Ziko Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association

[Wikimedia-l] WCA/Journal: if you report anyway, why not in the Journal, too?

2013-06-16 Thread Ziko van Dijk
chapter reports, so why not putting the highlights in a short contribution for the Journal? Kind regards Ziko http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Journal Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Erik Zachte on bot-generated articles

2013-06-23 Thread Ziko van Dijk
. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president

[Wikimedia-l] Congratulations

2013-06-24 Thread Ziko van Dijk
be a lot less democratic in the world. Kind reards Ziko http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Results -- Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Uruguay recognized as newest chapter

2013-07-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Are there Urugyans on this list? Otherwise, it might make more sense to give the general email or chair's mail address and congratulate there. :-) Kind regards Ziko Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania: list of attendees

2013-07-15 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania Hong Kong: invitation to the WCA WOS (seminar for organizations)

2013-07-16 Thread Ziko van Dijk
discuss about our three action fields: Advice (peer review), Research, Outreach. Please have a look at our seminar page on the Wikimania wiki, and join by adding your name to the list. Kind regards Markus Glaser, WCA Council Chair Dr. Ziko van Dijk, Deputy Chair http://wikimania2013

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners

2013-07-17 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

[Wikimedia-l] WCA/Journal accepts your contributions (as always)

2013-07-24 Thread Ziko van Dijk
to follow. Will the Journal play the same important role on Meta Wiki as the Kurier in German Wikipedia? Kind regards Ziko http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Journal Ziko van Dijk voorzitter

[Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
) Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Don't worry, Marc, Superbass uses irony and is pro VE. Ziko Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-30 Thread Ziko van Dijk
It's interesting how an essentially social question (being welcoming to new people by a Visual editor) turns quickly into a debate on software. Ziko Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-30 Thread Ziko van Dijk
power with regard to the potential community of the future. I do have the impression that people were used as guinea pigs who did not ask for being that. :-) Kind regards Ziko Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Chapters Association - report in the Journal

2013-08-08 Thread Ziko van Dijk
-- Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Chapters Association - report in the Journal

2013-08-08 Thread Ziko van Dijk
from HK as well Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Mobile: +49-1520-7226062 Twitter: @jaancornelius Am 09.08.2013 00:33 schrieb Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nljavascript:; : Hello, Please allow me to send you a link to the Journal with my report about the WCA Council meeting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Ziko van Dijk
-- Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-18 Thread Ziko van Dijk
, doesn't show very much activity. Everyone can join and post. But I can imagine scenarios in which a chapter decides to change that. Kind regards Ziko Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland

[Wikimedia-l] Hong Kong diary

2013-08-20 Thread Ziko van Dijk
in Wikimedia country. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ziko/Hong_Kong_diary Kind regards Ziko Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-26 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hear, hear. Ziko 2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be seen by many more people, they do us a service. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The next Wikimedia Conference (AKA Chapters' Meeting)

2013-08-30 Thread Ziko van Dijk
://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] How to force to enable Visual Editor

2013-10-15 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl 2013/10/15 Srikanth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-23 Thread Ziko van Dijk
javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimania 2015 - Call for Jury volunteers

2013-11-05 Thread Ziko van Dijk
...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Interactive WMF org chart

2013-11-08 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Very nice, useful overview. Thanks a lot. Ziko Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spokeswoman Catrin Schoneville is leaving Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. on January 31, 2014

2013-11-22 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement Sarah Stierch

2014-01-09 Thread Ziko van Dijk
=unsubscribe -- Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation + Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director selection process

2014-01-21 Thread Ziko van Dijk
javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation + Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director selection process

2014-01-31 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl 2014-01-31 Craig Franklin cfrank

Re: [Wikimedia-l] online survey invitation

2014-02-10 Thread Ziko van Dijk
neutral to nearly all questions. I'm sorry. :-) Ziko Dr. Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

[Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-30 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dr. Ziko van Dijk Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-07 Thread Ziko van Dijk
-- Dr. Ziko van Dijk Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Henning, To describe Eric's action I am tempted to use a metaphor that includes black uniforms and heavy boots. But that would not be appropriately written by a German to a German. You may find yourself very smart with this kind of wording. Let me tell you from a North German to a North German:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-24 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, I am very grateful for Gerards remarks. Sometimes I see a lot of black/white-thinking in the Wikimedia movement, with statements such as this is all bad (and, occasionally, this is all good). I am more comfortable with shades of grey, they don't have to be fifty, but at least 5 or 10. On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New movement org?

2014-08-26 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, I'm not sure whether this is a case for the whole movement (and this list...) Kind regards Ziko 2014-08-26 22:03 GMT+02:00 Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk: I edit OpenCorporates when I can. :-) On 26 Aug 2014 21:02, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: how

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-01 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Thank you very much, Marc, for this clear and sound statement. It seems to me that there are many discussions that are far away from the real points, like the multitude of information on our pages. I once counted how many links there are on the German main page of Wikimedia Commons, I stopped when

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-08 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, a) This discussion actually belongs to a talk page on Meta or Mediawiki.org, for example :-) b) All my experience in teaching Wikipedia tells me that the talk page system is absolutely outdated and inappropriate. It is, sorry to use this word, *ridiculous* that you have to teach people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-11 Thread Ziko van Dijk
There is no reason to change the name, and no reason to invent a second Wikimania. Also because of finances, the Spring meeting should be really limited to people who make the movement work better. I repeat that, in my opinion, some newer or smaller organisations don't fit really in, or should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell

2015-06-22 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Fabrice, Thank you for your work, you leave the Foundation and all of us richer. I hope that your ideas will still make an impact on the movement. All the best for your next plans, Ziko Am Dienstag, 23. Juni 2015 schrieb Oona Castro : Dear Fabrice, it was a pleasure to collaborate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-19 Thread Ziko van Dijk
An excellent idea, Chris. I am curious what are the exact reasons for having the fundraising banner in September. We were always told that December is the best month. It is no secret that many (and which) chapters run the WLM event in September. Maybe the FR team can explain about that, so that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] possible power point or pdf file

2015-08-06 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Maybe related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgchlOrhI4 (Wikimania 2013) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR1hvyeJkE4 (Wikimania 2014) Kind regards Ziko 2015-08-06 17:47 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org: Hello Mardetanha, Le jeudi 6 août 2015, 19:52:17 Mardetanha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does Foundation have 3rd party standing against Harald Bischoff?

2015-07-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Some people on the one hand like to complain on the interferences and interventions of the Foundation, and on the other hand want its involvement when it suits them. Pointing to the wealth of the Foundation and by that legitimizing any spending, is not really convincing. Ziko Am Montag, 27.

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conferentie Nederland, November 28th, 2015; Call for speakers

2015-07-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
://www.wikimedia.nl/projectpagina/programma So, if you have something to communicate and want to meet people in the Low Countries, with regard to Wikipedia, free knowledge and our other topics: the WCN might be a very suitable conference for you. :-) Kind regards Ziko van Dijk programme coordinator

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

2015-11-08 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Thanks for the explanations. I always thought of the Superprotect function as a technical way to react in a social-legal space of tension. A discussion about the technical function is much less interesting than about the real issue, of how to improve the MediaWiki software with regard to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advertising in Central notice?

2015-11-07 Thread Ziko van Dijk
It's normal, when you hire a company for a survey, you mention the company, for various reasons. Kind regards Ziko 2015-11-07 22:36 GMT+01:00 Itzik - Wikimedia Israel : > Thank you, I responded also there. I found the link to their full website > (where the privacy doc is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Departure

2015-09-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
My best wishes and a huge THANK YOU, Garfield! Many people in the movement learned a lot from you, including me. Kind regards Ziko 2015-09-12 20:20 GMT+02:00 Itzik - Wikimedia Israel : > Garfield, > > It was a pleasure to work with you. Your announcement sadness us all, as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-04 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Of course it is the committee to have its say about Wikimania. If I understand it well, the main problem was that the bid period was from August to November 2015, and some groups were working on their bids. They feel that they could have saved a lot of work if they had known before. Kind regards

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-05 Thread Ziko van Dijk
2015-10-05 18:16 GMT+02:00 Nathan : > The WCA council was a bureaucratic mess that seemed almost doomed from its > inception. I think the comparison is inapt. > No, there was hardly any "bureaucracy", the problem was that Council members did not met their tasks, did not show

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-05 Thread Ziko van Dijk
> On 15-10-05 05:26 AM, Gnangarra wrote: >> I think we are stuck with Montreal and to change now isnt going address the >> problems this decision has created > I think that this is a very unhappy wording; there is nothing wrong with the bid or the city by itself. As much as I find the wasted

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please stick to the 30-post limit

2015-12-31 Thread Ziko van Dijk
I very much agree with Fae on this. Certainly, some people will always post more than others, e.g. because they have a specific task in the movement. But often I wonder whether a post on this list was really necessary. For example, sometimes it makes sense not to react immediately to another post

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-26 Thread Ziko van Dijk
I can't find something wrong with Pundit's argument based opinions and explanations. Kind regards Ziko 2015-11-26 12:33 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Some explanations simply read as weasel words. Nothing was lost in > translation. You either have an opinion and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] WMF Board of Trustees appointments and officer positions

2016-06-23 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Patricio, You have been chair, and board member, in times difficult for our movement. You have invested a lot of time, and even if I did not agree always with you for 100%, I knew that a good conversation was possible. Please accept my unconditional respect for your commitment. Kind regards

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3

2016-02-09 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Anna, Thank you for your work, I enjoyed seeing some of it in Mexico. All the best for the future! Kind regards Ziko 2016-02-09 21:21 GMT+01:00 Vira Motorko : > Thank you, Anna, for whom you become for me and for us! > > Where are you going next? :) > > *--* > *Vira

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Patricio, Thank you for the information. I would be interested in an elaboration of the advantages and disadvantages of a community election, though. Kind regards Ziko 2016-01-29 16:27 GMT+01:00 Patricio Lorente : > Dear all, > > > I am happy to announce the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reinstatement of James Heilman

2016-02-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Thanks for the contributions. I can imagine that it is reasonable * that the WMF Board deems it impossible to work together with a specific board member; * that the WMF Board deems it impossible to publish the reasons for the removal; * that the WMF Board calls the removed board member to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A quick note about the future

2016-02-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello Jimmy, Thank you for the note. I was wondering about the eligibility of James, because the page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/James_Heilman_removal_FAQ#Can_James_be_a_candidate_for_a_community-selected_seat_again.3F says: "Due to the removal from the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

2016-02-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Brion, thank you for starting this thread and for your caveats. Among the challenges when creating new movement entities, or organs, I think there are at least two which we have experienced in the past: a) A certain part of the Wikipedians has a very individualistic mind and may not want to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

2016-01-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
I cannot word it better than Michael Snow, so I won't try. Kind regards Ziko 2016-01-27 8:39 GMT+01:00 Michael Snow : > Hello Arnnon, > > It is good to hear something directly from you. I am sure your intentions in > the position you were appointed to are positive and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

2016-02-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
There pure costs shouldn't be the main or only argument. What does the movement pay, for what? How are the goals of the movement served by Wikimania or other conventions? The better we understand that the better our conventions are. For example, for the programme of the Wikimedia Conference

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT

2016-02-19 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Ido, Thank you for your e-mail. I am also grateful to many other people who have contributed to give us a better understanding of the past and the present (it is a lot of work). I would like to read your opinion about two things that I find astonishing and urging for a remedy: * How it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Massive Online Open Course about Wikipedia

2016-04-06 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Congratulations for this project! I have looked at some figures, and some videos, and it looks very impressive. I'm gonna have a closer look in the nearby future. It would be great to have something like that in other languages. Kind regards Ziko 2016-04-05 19:25 GMT+02:00 Brill Lyle

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-23 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Actually, I am quite appalled by the article. Whether one wants to see something positive in pirating or not, the Wikimedia servers are not meant for this purpose (for good reasons). Breaking rules and taking abuse of an opportunity is not a goal by itself. Kind regards Ziko Am Mittwoch, 23.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Armenia candidate for the board

2016-03-02 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, I cannot say much about the specific case, but in general: in small countries it is not unusual that there is only one national encyclopedia, and that it is directly or indirectly published or supported by the government or an institution close to the government. A good example is the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A quick note about the future

2016-03-01 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Jimmy, Thank you for the clarification. I very much appreciate signals that lead to a better understanding and coming to terms with each other. I am happy to read that you wouldn't, as a person, object to a return of James to the board. However, the FAQ says in the introduction: "The Board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-03 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Actually I favor very much the idea that, after the election, there is a public list of the chapters that did cast the vote. (Not necessarily, which chapter supported which candidate, but that is another discussion. In 2012, the list of candidates was not published at all, by the way.) I

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