Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread effe iets anders
it seems my email was rejected, trying to send again: Maybe I missed something, but could you please explain why the Terms of Use would be the best place to make this kind of decisions? As I understand it, the Terms of Use are Wikimedia-wide, and I'm not 100% certain this is the kind of rule

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Inc. working with Go Fish Digital, a company that whitewashes Wikipedia

2018-08-08 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for sharing, Greg. As it proves to be quite hard to filter out this kind of companies, it must be even harder for affiliates that don't have the WMF infrastructure at hand. I can imagine there exists some kind of 'blacklist' of companies that the WMF doesn't want to work with for this kind

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fallout from 2018 Wikimedian of the Year announcement

2018-08-29 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for picking this challenge up with such enthusiasm! Lodewijk On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 6:58 AM Alex Stinson wrote: > Thank you Farhard for sharing out the progress that you have been making as > a benefit of the Wikipedian of the Year! I look forward to continuing to > support these

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline announcements

2018-10-21 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Pine, I would also suggest not to get overly bureaucratic with this :) If the public meeting you refer to requires a large attendance, the 14 days makes sense for example - but I cannot recall many meetings of that style. Rather, most meetings are either scheduled taking the availability of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread effe iets anders
Perhaps stating the obvious, but please remember there were some significant flaws with the consultation by the WMF that you refer to (especially with regards to the way questions were phrased and options were limited beforehand, if I recall correctly). Wikimania's purpose is mostly pluriform and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedians of Chicago User Group first annual report submitted

2018-10-10 Thread effe iets anders
Wow congratulations :) I'm guessing this is the link you wanted to include: On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:51 PM Brian Choo wrote: > Fellow Wikimedians, > > Wikimedians of Chicago User Group has put together their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Cornelius, a quick sanity check (sorry if this was already discussed): in your overview, you don't mention any WMF staff members as such. Is that because they won't be invited in that capacity (i.e. not including staff members that happen to be in affcom, that are affiliate representatives or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hiding versions because of copyright violation

2019-01-14 Thread effe iets anders
he > project that is most abused, sometimes in ways that I'd be hesitant to > publicly describe. > > > Risker/Anne > (English Wikipedia oversighter) > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 12:29, effe iets anders > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> This is one of thes

[Wikimedia-l] Hiding versions because of copyright violation

2019-01-14 Thread effe iets anders
Hi all, This is one of these things that seems particularly hard to find, so I'd like to pick your collective brains on this: What are the various policies across our little universe on using the 'hide version' functionality to hide historical versions of articles? I would especially appreciate

[Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-17 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Kirill, (changing the topic to reflect better the more abstract case: this is no longer about WMPT, as I don't know enough about that specific instance) I appreciate your concerns for embarrassing situations. This may be the least painful approach in many of the cases. I also appreciate that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions about proposed new Chapter agreement for Wikimedia Portugal

2019-01-27 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Gonçalo, Thanks for sharing. I share most of your concerns, reading your explanation - and they seem reasonable. I find it particularly odd that such major changes are forced upon the chapter in this situation. If these changes are necessary, it would be better to discuss them in a global

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-20 Thread effe iets anders
As for process.. While I appreciate that this time, the change was at least announced before the vote, and that some board members at least engaged in some conversation - I have yet to see how this was taken into consideration by the board as a whole. It feels like the board already made up its

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Analytics] Farewell, Erik!

2019-02-06 Thread effe iets anders
I have always enjoyed Erik's insightful input - especially the insights that people don't like to hear at first. I trust that much more of that is to come in the future, so I'm not ready to say farewells :). I wouldn't be able to accurately summarize it anyway. Erik, I hope that you'll find a lot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-14 Thread effe iets anders
in favor of a >unilateral preferred action. >- Abruptly undoing administrator actions without consultation. >- *Reversal of a Wikimedia Foundation office action ><>.* > > > Dan Rosenthal > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-14 Thread effe iets anders
Great, now we have a wheelwar going on ( ). I have a hard time seeing how this would help anyone. A massive discussion where everyone tries to say something and nobody really reads everything (because how could you) is not going to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-17 Thread effe iets anders
The landscape has changed quite a bit since 2012, and there are a number of players that could offer a service like this by now. It may be worthwhile exploring them briefly (including but not limited to Google), if we believe this is important enough to invest time in (and I agree that there is a

[Wikimedia-l] Trust & Safety (was: New board for...)

2019-06-17 Thread effe iets anders
(forking the discussion to allow a focus on more general line, rather than the specifics of who wrote what, why and when) My main takeaway from this discussion would be that it's good if there is a neutral review option for actions by the T team (or the WMF in general), such as an ombudsperson. A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

2019-06-20 Thread effe iets anders
Gerard, I think your comment is highly inappropriate. I don't generally like to pile on, but this needs calling out. When discussing these sensitive topics, the very least we can expect, is a careful approach to the matter. I don't know the underlying situation well enough to establish who's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Code of Conduct committee candidates

2019-06-21 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Amir, Thanks. I agree with your assessment. Probably asking for the obvious: is there someone on the committee that knows the real world identity (and the other way around, the online pseudonym) of each member, and could flag a COI/suggest to abstain if need be? (aside from people refraining

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Open Letter to Affiliations Committee : Wikimedia India's Demand For A Fair And Transparent Hearing

2019-07-08 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks Abhinav for your email. I'm having a hard time splitting the email out in a) what is the exact and complete set of reasons that Affcom put the chapter on suspension. b) what additional complaints are part of the big picture. c) what is the response from WMIN. I realize it is really hard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing our newest chapter, Wikimedia Korea

2019-04-23 Thread effe iets anders
Refreshing to see some positive development here again, after all the complications, setbacks etc - welcome to your new status WMKR! It was always a joy to see you at work in activities, looking forward to hearing even more from you again :) Lodewijk On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:11 PM María

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement from the Board of Wikimedia Belgium (WMBE)

2019-08-02 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for the update Geert. I'll join you in thanking Romaine for the vast amounts of work that he has done over the past years in Belgium. I think this was a great trigger to get the chapter to where it is now - even if I have only seen the tip of the activities from my comfortable outsider

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Belated update from Wikimedia Portugal

2019-08-02 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for the update - I'm glad this got resolved. Lodewijk On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:50 AM Rajeeb Dutta wrote: > Great news and many many congratulations to all the winners. > Thanks Gonçalo for the update. > > Best Regards, > Rajeeb. > (U: Marajozkee) > Sent from my iPhone > > > On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcoming Ryan Merkley to the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-08-14 Thread effe iets anders
Congrats Ryan! The main question here at Wikimania is really... Will you be more like Leo McGarry or like Doug Stamper as far as it comes to problem solving? :) Lodewijk On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 07:33 Rajeeb Dutta wrote: > Congrats Ryan & all my best wishes, thanks Katherine for the update. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Affiliations Committee : Wikimedia India's Demand For A Fair And Transparent Hearing

2019-07-15 Thread effe iets anders
Thank you Kirill for outlining the procedural component. That is helpful, and paints a better picture. I know Affcom us always balancing in a tough position, not only between interests but also between different levels of transparency expectations. The piece of information that I'm struggling to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fallout from 2018 Wikimedian of the Year announcement

2019-07-25 Thread effe iets anders
Hey Farhad, really impressive how you managed to leverage this opportunity. Thank you for putting in all this effort, it's heart warming to see you and your colleagues so busy. Lodewijk On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 1:16 PM Фархад Фаткуллин / Farhad Fatkullin <> wrote: > Dear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread effe iets anders
Now imagine trying to explain the difference between a chapter, the Foundation and the community when they have the same name... Lodewijk On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 1:41 PM Isaac Olatunde wrote: > We sometimes spend several minutes trying to explain to potentials partners > the difference between