[Wikimedia-l] article feedback tool, do the links really point where they should to?

2012-05-01 Thread rupert THURNER
when looking at an article, a little improve this page popped up at the bottom. can it be that some of the links are misguided? learn how to edit does not link to the learn how to edit page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Editing). but it links on a page telling how

Re: [Wikimedia-l] article feedback tool, do the links really point where they should to?

2012-05-01 Thread rupert THURNER
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: when looking at an article, a little improve this page popped up at the bottom. can it be that some of the links are misguided? learn how to edit does not link to the learn how to edit page (http

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

2012-11-06 Thread rupert THURNER
hi erik, there is a lot of good reasoning in your mail. you talk of engineering functions and product functions already existing. which ones are these, what is their responsibility, and how many people work in these functions currently? rupert On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:03 AM, Erik Moeller

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: FDC recommendations on funds allocation, Round 1, 2012-13

2012-11-16 Thread rupert THURNER
i (personally :) ) would like to have more details as well. especially how FDC calculated the amount they found acceptable. rupert. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey Lodewijk, So a few points, first of all you have a very subjective view

[Wikimedia-l] telenor and serbia, india, ... experiences after one year?

2013-01-08 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, as the telenor cooperation now runs nearly for one year, are there already any experiences out of it? is it a reality meanwhile, how many users benefitted from the offer, are there any other learnings? here for example serbia, and india are not listed:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] telenor and serbia, india, ... experiences after one year?

2013-01-09 Thread rupert THURNER
...we had a few difficulties launching them earlier but they should be coming online soon. And we plan to have several other big launches to announce within the next few weeks. Stay tuned. oh...and Happy New Year too! --Kul On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Wikipedia: International and cross-cultural issues in online collaboration

2013-01-20 Thread rupert THURNER
this sounds interesting - but what are the conditions of this book and articles written? will there be available for free? rupert. On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga ezalvare...@wikimedia.org wrote: (Sorry for the cross-posting, but today is Saturday.) *Important

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Wikipedia: International and cross-cultural issues in online collaboration

2013-01-20 Thread rupert THURNER
wrote: 2013/1/20 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com this sounds interesting - but what are the conditions of this book and articles written? will there be available for free? I too have the same question. Will it be available in CC-BY-SA license like Wikipedia critical point of viewhttp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread rupert THURNER
my first thought when i read this was should i use my free time to edit wikipedia so that somebody donates money to wmf, and they use it to pay oppenheim? On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: I don't understand. The board hired and pays to a company to find a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-02-19 Thread rupert THURNER
hi jan, nice to hear that! i am wondering how such very active advocacy fits with wikimedia's educational, non-political mission statement, and how you plan to work with dedicated platforms like lobbyplag [1][2] [1] http://lobbyplag.eu/ [2]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-09 Thread rupert THURNER
that would be a brilliant idea :) where can one vote for this? On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@wikimedia.org wrote: Folks, please, stop with this irony and let's move the office from San Francisco to Brazil. *Then* we can begin to speak about suits, ferraris and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, not sure where to put this on the talk page, but i'd really like, if they want to become affiliated and want to receive movement money, that they drop their 25/12 eur membership fee per year which blocks most people now to become member. rupert. On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Bence

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread rupert THURNER
movement money. I don't see why thematic organisations should be treated differently. Dimi 2013/3/10 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com hi, not sure where to put this on the talk page, but i'd really like, if they want to become affiliated and want to receive movement money

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread rupert THURNER
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, a welcome topic :) MZMcBride writes: I think we need to decide, as a community, whether this is something we want. If it is, we should set up an endowment fund sooner rather than later, so that people willing to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread rupert THURNER
currently the bylaws say: transfer the money to any 501(c) organisation. wmf would not be allowed to be charitable in switzerland as it is not guaranteed the donors money end up what it was ment for: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Bylaws#Section_2._Distribution_of_Assets. rupert. On Fri,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Crisis of conscience Fwd: [REA]

2013-04-01 Thread rupert THURNER
it seems that CEO of taylor francis, Roger Horton [2], wanted to charge nearly 3000 USD to publish an article accessible without paywall in their journal of library administration [0]. they belong to informa, with its CEO, Peter Rigby [1]. would 3000 usd in future be then a fair price the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

2013-04-27 Thread rupert THURNER
hahaha ... sure. about 400'000 of these are sold for 3000 eur every year, having a population of 8'000'000. and this number includes the ones used by people not living in switzerland like yours as well ;) rupert. On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board FDC elections?

2013-04-27 Thread rupert THURNER
also agree to simplify the rules. what i'd really love would be to better standardize and with it simplify volunteer community, for all elections and votes. and at least my wish would be that people who donate their time by sending code patches to software considered essential to run the site are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

2013-05-05 Thread rupert THURNER
hehehe, victor, you are cool. because its a private initiative you use your wikimedia mail account to advertise for it, in the video you make sure that everybody konws you work for wikimedia foundation? the price you give is interesting as well. on your money collection page you write the devices

[Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: I'm not going to respond to all the points raised in your e-mail, Sue (partially because most of them are just too general), so let me just mentioned some of them. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Sue Gardner

Re: [Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-20 Thread rupert THURNER
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:54 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2013 15:40, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not the right person to say it categorically, but as far as I'm aware, there haven't been any non-staff Admin level users on the blog, at least for some

[Wikimedia-l] prism and certificate authorities, snooping https

2013-06-15 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, i saw on the wmf statement on meta that https everywhere should calm people. thats a good start already. 3 years ago the EFF (electronic frontier foundation) warned about https. Soghoian and Stamm write about especially about certificate authorities (CA): [...] Microsoft’s Root

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!

2013-06-19 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi Robert, no censoring, filtering, or monitoring. Its the full French wikipedia. Afaiu emmanuel it was not discussed, but he explicitly pointed out that all articles are there including the ones about arms. Rupert Am 19.06.2013 03:46 schrieb Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com: Very cool. I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The GAC wants you!

2013-07-13 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, many thanks for that great invitation! i'd really consider this, if the GAC process would be less work and would target imperfect people. the grants incentive should imo be changed to get more for the bucks. what do i mean with this: 1. if the GAC decides to grant money to somebody, it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-24 Thread rupert THURNER
If WMF is serious about letting development activities grow in other countries this might be taken into account in FDCs allocation policy. Last year Wmch offered to pay one additional developper for wikidata. It was refused because of too much growth. For wmch this would have been just money flow

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-31 Thread rupert THURNER
Am 31.07.2013 15:07 schrieb Risker risker...@gmail.com: On 31 July 2013 08:36, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2013 10:59, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: de:wp convinced you. What would it take to convince you on en:wp? (I'm asking for a clear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] NSA

2013-08-01 Thread rupert THURNER
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 01/08/13 14:15, Anthony wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Ryan Lane rl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I would be fired and jailed before I knowingly let that occur. If this was the case I'd very surely not be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread rupert THURNER
Personally i think this is a bad idea, especially with respect to all the nsa discussions. If wmf is not able to host it might be hosted by one of the chapters, or wikinews might accept a new article type blog, what you think? Rupert Am 05.09.2013 19:34 schrieb Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-08 Thread rupert THURNER
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: What should not be missed out in the discussion is the fact that blog post according to current guidelines should be written on the wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hours to discuss VisualEditor

2013-09-28 Thread rupert THURNER
in general on VisualEditor, although the deployment schedule needs to be updated. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Portal :) (The September 24 deployment was postponed to September 30th.) Maggie On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:50 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] : WMF resolution on neutral point of view

2013-10-02 Thread rupert THURNER
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... I, for one, share your perception that NPOV is a problem on some (perhaps most) Wikipedias, asaf, could you please elaborate a little bit what you mean by this? do you not share the experience that the editors were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Interactive WMF org chart

2013-11-09 Thread rupert THURNER
nice technichs. for the contents: the org-charts i know have the board on top, not the executive director. rupert On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Nov 8, 2013

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

2013-11-14 Thread rupert THURNER
There is such a case in http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Cameroon, reference is on the talk page. would you be so kind to mark or refer to it correctly? rupert Am 13.11.2013 12:46 schrieb Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Chris McKenna

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

2013-11-15 Thread rupert THURNER
or something like this ? Alternatively, find someone neutral and nice to help fix things so that you can come to a mutual understanding ? I understand that you both see things differently, but ultimately, you both are here to make things move on. Flo On 11/14/13 2:36 PM, rupert THURNER wrote

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Textbooks Which Borrow Heavily from Wikipedia

2013-11-25 Thread rupert THURNER
so the books could be uploaded to wikibooks, or wikimedia commons, one could produce an epub or openzim file out of it for the people not having a kindle? sounds great to me ... rupert. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:26 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Have come across a collection of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Closure of Community Logo Consultation

2013-12-08 Thread rupert THURNER
Thank you for this decision! Rupert. Am 08.12.2013 02:05 schrieb Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org: Hi all, The consultation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation has been closed on the question about the community logo registration. Many thanks to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] National Museum of Korea releases images of artifacts and old books.

2013-12-18 Thread rupert THURNER
just out of interest, is there any template on wikimedia commons which follows dublin core? the only reference i could find was: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Dublin_Core rupert. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:42 AM, RYU Cheol rch...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your attention,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2013-14 Round 2 FDC/annual plan grants timeline moved out by a month: proposals due April 1, 2014

2013-12-18 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi srikant, while i fully understand that it was not practical for you last year, i highly appreciate that over time and with more input (yours as well) a better balance is found. Ie a round every 6 months which solves similar problems you had, and wmf beeing able to present its real budget

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New year's plans for editor engagement

2014-01-02 Thread rupert THURNER
hi pine, as a volunteer, my personal stance is that editor engagement is best experienced on a personal, pragmatic, and not-meta level. let me give an example: when i met anasuya sengupta last year i was very impressed by her. such a nice and welcoming person to talk to. such a bright person,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2

2014-01-06 Thread rupert THURNER
existing users to assume good faith, be civil, and invite new people to edit on an individual basis. Pine Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:14:45 +0100 From: rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New year's plans

[Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] New Program Evaluation report: Wiki Loves Monuments

2014-01-25 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:37 PM, LiAnna Davis lda...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:45 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: lianna, where did you get that number from? I want credit for this report to go where it belongs -- the Program Evaluation team! I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation + Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director selection process

2014-01-31 Thread rupert THURNER
Me too. Wikipedia is what it is through the community, and a CEO well respected in the community who, over the years proved to have handled many situations with care, and involving the relevant stakeholders is, at least imo, the best what can happen to the wmf. Rupert. Am 30.01.2014 16:56

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Scope of Wikimedia Conference

2014-01-31 Thread rupert THURNER
Imo it would be a big benefit. Rupert Am 31.01.2014 20:32 schrieb Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com: Should movement organisations in planning come to the Wikimedia Conference? This is a question that has been asked, does not yet appear to have a definite answer, and indeed it is not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

2014-02-10 Thread rupert THURNER
pheobe, concerning your motion to vote saying: wikimedia foundation grows, the affiliated organisations do not grow the affiliated organisations are recommended to seek other funding (which the foundation did try and did not succeed very well) i am disappointed personally by you. you as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-19 Thread rupert THURNER
stephen, i think it would be wiser to tackle this technically. let mark a contribution as COI when pressing save. the community will make something out of it, you can be sure. if a person makes too often errors not marking that an edit is COI, then its easy to make a community backed rule to ban

[Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a group, and COI to an edit

2014-02-22 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way: 1. it should knows groups 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile 3. allow to select one of the groups joined to an edit when saving 4. add a checkbox COI to an edit, meaning potential

Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a group, and COI to an edit

2014-02-23 Thread rupert THURNER
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way: 1. it should knows groups 2. allow users to store

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Press Release: Wikimedia Indonesia Receive Grant from The Ford Foundation to Preserve Indonesian Culture By Content Digitalization

2014-03-05 Thread rupert THURNER
excellent news! On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Isabella Apriyana isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id wrote: Hello all, We are happy to announce that Wikimedia Indonesia is awarded a grant by The Ford Foundation to support our projects on Indonesian content digitalization. Please find below

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-free images in collaborations

2014-03-08 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, i talked to james about the reasoning. it seems unequal that wikimedia's logo is restricted and allowed, the partners logo not. imo we should put the wikimedia logo's under a standard license, because the wikimedia foundation is giving a bad example without gaining a lot. rupert. On Sun,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread rupert THURNER
The more and more rules is also a concern i experience when discussing with newbies, but also with more experienced contributors. My main concern is that the terms of use are reflecting US law and English speaking countries worries. In this light they should be as slim as necessary for fulfilling

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread rupert THURNER
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: On 4/17/2014 7:37 AM, Russavia wrote: So how about a simple WMF policy that states something along the lines of: Employees and contractors of the Wikimedia Foundation shall not edit articles relating to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-18 Thread rupert THURNER
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Zack Exley zex...@wikimedia.org wrote: I haven't read this thread, but I'll explain my editing history as Wikitedium: First of all, I listed my user name as soon as I started at Wikipedia. It's still listed here on my (out of date) staff/contractor page:

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-21 Thread rupert THURNER
-- Forwarded message -- From: Zack Exley zex...@thoughtworks.com Date: Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff To: rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Yes, sorry - I was being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Assessing this round of FDC proposals, including the WMF's proposal

2014-04-27 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2014 14:35, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Risker, 27/04/2014 19:49: Well, no, I'm not misunderstanding. If a staff assessment is needed, then it needs to be done by staff. Inappropriate

[Wikimedia-l] simple and effective creation process for chapters

2014-05-03 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, out of the experiences of creating 50 chapters, and the recent frustrated feedback from persons involved in the creation of new chapters, e.g. belgium and ghana, could we please find a simple and effective way to organize the chapters creation process? existing chapters not meeting the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Howdy from Wil

2014-05-05 Thread rupert THURNER
Could we ask you to edit wikipedia as well or to write some software *griiin* Rupert Am 05.05.2014 20:30 schrieb Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com: I'm Wil Sinclair, Lila Tretikov's significant other. I've always wanted a good excuse to get involved in the Wikipedia project and the Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 strategic plan

2014-05-28 Thread rupert THURNER
Am 28.05.2014 09:31 schrieb ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com: Hi, can someone with knowledge of WMF's thinking expand on this statement from Lila? Starting the process for our next strategic planning exercise, which will be different from last time, and focused on improving our ability to

[Wikimedia-l] wikireaders project, how is this calculated correctly?

2014-05-29 Thread rupert THURNER
victor, thats great to read about the impact of the project. the idiegogo link says it raised 3'370 out of 232'000, the wmf grant link states it raised 3'000. why there is a difference? i was also wondering that in the report your partner states: 20-30% of the wikireaders could not hold any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase participation [WAS: The first three weeks]

2014-05-29 Thread rupert THURNER
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Fæ, 29/05/2014 16:07: Perhaps we should have some more memorable on-wiki short-cuts to link and find these reports? I suggested Erik Zachte that we could override the default [[MediaWiki:statistics-footer]]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-05-29 Thread rupert THURNER
another sad day, wikimedia foundation as the vicarious servant of the telecom industry on its way destroying net neutrality. and another day where wikimedia foundation helps driving an illegal practice according european and brazilian laws :( for the ones in the US, read and file here comments

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-05-29 Thread rupert THURNER
participation is another aspect. wp zero allows free reading. it does not allow free participation. write emails, search for references, download and adjust code. just as a side note, the oxford university stated: until 2012, europe, i.e. 10% of the worlds population, produced 50%+ of wikipedias

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-01 Thread rupert THURNER
-gratis?_ga=1.143290485.1915805894.1400742323 Overview Wikipedia Zero: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mobile_partnerships 2014-05-30 6:59 GMT+02:00 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com: participation is another aspect. wp zero allows free reading. it does not allow free

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-04 Thread rupert THURNER
, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:45 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Yana, may i suggest that you try

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons and OCILLA

2014-06-08 Thread rupert THURNER
Would it make sense to deploy a server in another country under a domain not owned by the foundation? E.g. Switzerland? Rupert Am 08.06.2014 14:10 schrieb Jeevan Jose jkadav...@gmail.com: BTW, why we have separate policies for Commons and Wikipedia? I just noticed that photographs deleted

[Wikimedia-l] GLAM track, wikimania 2014: 11 US/UK, 2 DE, 2 cooperation, 2 rest of the world

2014-06-09 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, fyi, a statistical analysis about the GLAM track and where the presentations are from: 4 entries are US: https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Open_Authority:_A_New_Way_to_Talk_to_GLAMs https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_Future_of_Libraries_and_Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Court decision in Jones v. Dirty World Recording Entertainment LLC

2014-06-17 Thread rupert THURNER
What does this decision mean in simple English? Rupert Am 17.06.2014 09:08 schrieb Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com: On Jun 17, 2014 3:55 AM, Kevin Godfrey kevin.darkli...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 Jun 2014, at 4:17 am, edward edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: On 16/06/2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation (was Wikiconference USA in the media)

2014-06-20 Thread rupert THURNER
you know that we agree on most topics lodewijk. but on this one we do not :) i d be glad if i can make a picture of something by what i read and not by what i am allowed to read by an arbitrary list moderator, who probably does not even have my cultural context. if somebody does write too often

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interesting comment system for Wikipedia

2014-06-21 Thread rupert THURNER
interesting. there might be other applications as well which could benefit from references to paragraphs. like wikidata, book creation, especially for education. educational material often needs to be for a region and does not want to have information for multiple countries in it. rupert Am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lets delete everything from commons (was The tragedy of Commons)

2014-06-23 Thread rupert THURNER
that sounds like a rather simple statement to make. is there a reason the isreali govermmemt does not want to do that, or is this somenthing which follows autimatically? Rupert Am 22.06.2014 11:22 schrieb geni geni...@gmail.com: On 22 June 2014 08:30, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: The

[Wikimedia-l] red cross

2014-07-03 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, did anybody of you already have contact with the red cross or the icrc? concerning wikipedia, offline, commons, maps, wikinews? would there be any topic interesting for a cooperation? rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Catching copy and pasting early

2014-07-21 Thread rupert THURNER
hi james, this sounds interesting. the only obstacle i see is that neither the service nor the software nor the database are open. by using turnitin we would give up on the principle of opening contents, at least in this area. this might be perceived bad for opening content, editor retention, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Unacceptable -- CheckUser abuse gone uninvestigated

2014-08-02 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:25 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Are you able to specify which policy or statement entitles you to the information you request? I can find no basis for it in the privacy policy, the Meta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-04 Thread rupert THURNER
hi jessie, nice to hear this from you! how will the central cost be considered, e.g. grantmaking department of the wmf? rupert Am 04.08.2014 15:56 schrieb Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org: I put the slides on commons immediately after the presentation:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, Admins are currently given broad leeway to customize the user experience for all users, including addition of site-wide JS, CSS, etc. These are important capabilities of the wiki that have been used for many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

2014-08-11 Thread rupert THURNER
brandon, erik is an intelligent person. and of course at the end persons are acting, not organizations. if german elected community members, trusted ones, think it is not good enough, why not just let it be? its easy to get the reasons and act on it. wikipedia was and is community driven. your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-12 Thread rupert THURNER
magnus, a vote always has 3 options. * i am for it * i am against it * i can live with the outcome of the vote so i did not vote. because i can live with both. but i do respect the vote. i do respect admin decisions, i even voted for some admins. at the end it is very simple. the one who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-12 Thread rupert THURNER
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Like many other old hands, it seems to get in the way of my workflow. Not an issue for me, as long as I can turn it off. hehe, i suppose

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread rupert THURNER
Am 13.08.2014 15:56 schrieb Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread rupert THURNER
Am 13.08.2014 21:53 schrieb Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:20 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Am 13.08.2014 15:56 schrieb Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com : On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-20 Thread rupert THURNER
thank you erik, and martin for this! currently more than 600 persons express that this story should be resolved by reverting to the state before it started: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/Superschutz . while i thought originally who cares, i do think now beeing sorry is expressed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-21 Thread rupert THURNER
Am 22.08.2014 04:18 schrieb Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious to hear your thoughts about the proposed Technology Committee. That idea has some community support and had been discussed at some length on the WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group

2014-09-14 Thread rupert THURNER
hi kirill, what does lgbt stand for? i tried to look it up on the portal link, but no luck. btw the portal page does not work very good in mobile view, as half of the tabs are hidden. rupert Am 14.09.2014 03:51 schrieb Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, I'm pleased to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-09-23 Thread rupert THURNER
just to make the broad support one voice broader, i agree that supporting the ecosystem as sj called is vital. i also like the term give back as wikipedia would not be the same without this ecosystem. rupert rupert Am 23.09.2014 11:42 schrieb Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising reports after 2011

2014-10-04 Thread rupert THURNER
that would be indeed valuable information. rupert On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Since 2012 it's almost impossible to get information about the WMF fundraising... Does someone have insight in how WMF could be made again interested in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-06 Thread rupert THURNER
I d really love to have a simple voting right without exceptions, simple to explain. This than could be adopted as well by chapters and thematic orgs to distinguish between active and other members. I.e. have a number of billable contributions to Wikipedia or commons or be a registered developer.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

2014-10-28 Thread rupert THURNER
A nice move indeed, but I am wondering why you not chose the cc-by 4.0? Rupert On Oct 27, 2014 6:52 PM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:

[Wikimedia-l] Cc-by-sa 4.0, Wikimedia logos

2014-10-28 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi yana, would you be so kind to explain why wmf did not opt for the newest commons license, cc-by-sa 4.0? Rupert On Oct 28, 2014 9:06 PM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote: Good point. That line can now be deleted from the trademark template. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

2014-10-30 Thread rupert THURNER
On Oct 30, 2014 6:06 AM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Allan J. Aguilar ral...@vmail.me wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:15:17 -0500 Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote: To address

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

2014-11-12 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi Jon, it was always a pleasure and very constructive to work with you, as one who always had open eyes for global or other countries challenges. What are you up to in future? Rupert On Nov 11, 2014 10:11 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: With some sadness I have to tell you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

2014-11-13 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi geoff, would it be an option to just link to the Russian chapter's page for donations? Rupert On Nov 13, 2014 9:08 PM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello rubin16 and all, I wanted to follow up on Lisa's email. As she said, the decision to limit fundraising in Russia was

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Kiwix-developer] [KIWIX][GUTENBERG] 50.000 public domain books available to everybody, everywhere, offline

2014-11-19 Thread rupert THURNER
Allow me to crosspost this... -- Forwarded message -- From: Emmanuel Engelhart kel...@kiwix.org Date: Nov 19, 2014 1:18 PM Subject: [Kiwix-developer] [KIWIX][GUTENBERG] 50.000 public domain books available to everybody, everywhere, offline To: Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki

[Wikimedia-l] IMF data free of charge, license?

2014-11-19 Thread rupert THURNER
Christine Lagarde tweets that IMF Data will be free of charge next year. Anybody knows about the license? https://mobile.twitter.com/Lagarde/status/534715250927759361 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2014-11-21 Thread rupert THURNER
While this might sound attracting at a first glance the effect might be exactly the opposite what is desired. First, The wikimedia movement is not multinational like coca Cola which just buys what it needs. Wikimedia depends on volunteers. I would never donate money if it is not spent on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC funds allocation recommendation is up

2014-11-23 Thread rupert THURNER
Anders, what are the comparable numbers out of Sweden? Not generated by bots. What is the link for this? Rupert On Nov 23, 2014 2:59 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: I beleive you can find part of what you ask for in the staff assessment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

2014-11-27 Thread rupert THURNER
The day before yesterday I was presented a fundraising banner in Switzerland which redirects to the donation page of Wmf, contrary the chapters page. Rupert On Nov 26, 2014 3:18 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: Just following up, Has WMNL now received the sought information?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-11-30 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Kim Bruning kim@... writes: Washington post article http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/11/25/wikipedias-complicated-relationship-with-net-neutrality/ The response to this is embarrassing and lacking.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

2014-11-30 Thread rupert THURNER
hi mz, you are right, the whole wikipedia is built by volunteer time and could have not been built otherwise. so volunteer time clearly is worth significantly more. i sometimes feel ripped off as a volunteer. first i donate my time, and then people approach me to addtionally spend money for a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Ebola

2014-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
Excellent, James! On Dec 4, 2014 3:43 PM, Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi James, thanks for sharing. This shows exemplary the success of Wikipedia for being a trusted spot for information. It also shows its growing responsibilities. News like this are encouraging on so many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi mike, That pipes are dumb is fundamental for having cheap Internet access. Most contracts for Wikipedia zero are done with telcos which either want to catch up in getting more reach in the population, or those which have a higher price for data. Not allowing them to use wikipedia to influence

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