Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-08 Thread Peter Southwood
: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die" 2016-02-07 19:10 GMT+01:00 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>: > A marketing slogan that I'd like WMF to banish is that Wikipedia is > 100% written by volunteers. That's simply false. I find that point of view entirely wrong

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread rupert THURNER
lol This is why “Nonprofit: The Musical” will have, as one of its characters, a consultant robot, whose only job is to repeat exactly what an internal staff or board member says; the difference is that the robot actually gets listened to. On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Pine W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Thyge
2016-02-07 19:10 GMT+01:00 Pine W : > A marketing slogan that I'd like WMF to banish is that Wikipedia is 100% > written by volunteers. That's simply false. I find that point of view entirely wrong. The WMF does not pay anybody to edit, so editors are volunteers. I might

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Pine W
A marketing slogan that I'd like WMF to banish is that Wikipedia is 100% written by volunteers. That's simply false. Wikipedia is written by individuals with a mix of motives, and for some people those motives include financial compensation. Diverging a little into the topic of paid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What is your intention, to be "right" at all cost? Thanks, GerardM On 8 February 2016 at 00:04, Pine W wrote: > The fact that someone is not paid *by WMF* to edit does not mean that they > are a volunteer. That would be like saying that a newspaper salesperson >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Gnangarra
Some Wikipedians in Residence also get paid for their work, saying "Wikipedia is written by volunteers" is honest and doesnt have the puffary of 100%. As a community we are working to create more activities, projects and partnerships with GLAM where the people participating are being paid to edit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Pine W
The fact that someone is not paid *by WMF* to edit does not mean that they are a volunteer. That would be like saying that a newspaper salesperson standing at the door of a grocery store is a volunteer because he is not paid by the grocer and instead paid by the newspaper. As with paid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It would be a travesty when a "Wikipedian in residence" is paid only to write articles. In my honest opinion, I doubt that they have much time to write themselves. This whole negativity that this thread is part of indicates how sick the "community" is because it is not the "community", it is

[Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-06 Thread Pine W
I think that a number of us may appreciate this article, specifically people who are involved with Wikimedia affiliates, grant committees, and WMF Community Engagement including CR and PC http://nonprofitwithballs.com/2015/06/9-annoying-nonprofit-trends-that-need-to-die/ Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-06 Thread Benjamin Lees
Which of these heinous sins do we commit? On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Pine W wrote: > I think that a number of us may appreciate this article, specifically > people who are involved with Wikimedia affiliates, grant committees, and > WMF Community Engagement including CR