Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On 07/12/2013 04:18 AM, Eddy Paine wrote: Dan, A placeholder for people without pictures shouldn't be a problem. Thats common use. And they are all the same so thats a OK thing. The picture of Rory is a picture of Rory. It even says its a mascot and I agree with Erik we need Tux for Engineering. And no, we are not in the 1950's but as a international organisation we should still keep in mind that tattoos aren't accepted world wide. I don't think that should be a requirement. Even clothing choices are not accepted world-wide (in some places, short sleeves and/or showing your hair are considered unacceptable). I see no problem with Brandon's choice to show his tattoo. It might be nice to use a greater depth of field so his face was in focus too, but you can still see it. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM, L. Tuxwell Anonanon t...@linuxlover.orgwrote: Roary, please know that I was not distressed by any of the earlier comments in this thread. I see a vanguard of my relatives already quietly oversee the Wikimedia offices. We are a sociable clan,[1] and accept your proffered paw of peace. We find felines make fine company, with your flexible nature, thick skin and tendency toward deep furry naps. You seem to be quite warm; I hope to get to know you more closely.[2] We are working on ways at managing consistency in house at the moment and appreciate your feedback and patience. More photos coming soon enough. Meal All this talk of feed consistency makes me hungry too. I find the best-tasting feedback involves collaboration over a squid.[3] Love and Wikiwiki, Tux [1] http://bit.ly/12EeYcR [2] http://bit.ly/15HZHgi tut tut, Tux. Bitly shortener? http://ur1.ca/ :) [3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/File:Gentoo_Penguin_** feeding_its_chick_(6063656750)**.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gentoo_Penguin_feeding_its_chick_(6063656750).jpg __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@**lists.wikimedia.orgwikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org ?subject=**unsubscribe -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *http://blog.wikimedia.org/* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Hi there, 2013/7/15 Melanie Brown mbr...@wikimedia.org Hello Everyone, As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your feedback. Yes, we are in the process of creating some more consistency in our staff photos for the Wikimedia Foundation Absolutely, more consistency is important. I think everyone has to have the same tattoo as Juliana to be allowed to work for WMF. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WIKIPEDIA-Tattoo.JPG Happy inking, Steffen -- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Stepro ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate should matters escalate quickly.) Erik - to be frank I think this would be a serious mistake. A penguin would have no understanding of the Wikimedia culture. I mean they spend all their time huddling on ice-floes! What's that got to do with creating an encyclopedia? I notice that hardly ANYONE edits Wikipedia from the South Pole, despite it being the only place that everyone can agree is in the Global South. Indeed, what's the whole contribution of Antarctica been to the Wikimedia movement? Sweet fanny adams, that's what. But it doesn't even warrant a mention in the Foundation strategic plan! There is literally a whole continent that we don't care about. I suppose because you don't get many icebergs in San Francisco somehow you think Antarctica does't matter. The penguins should be much more comfortable on Wikisource. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Did she get permission to use the trademark in that way by WMF legal? :-) On 17/07/2013 1:41 AM, Steffen Prößdorf steffen.proessd...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi there, 2013/7/15 Melanie Brown mbr...@wikimedia.org Hello Everyone, As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your feedback. Yes, we are in the process of creating some more consistency in our staff photos for the Wikimedia Foundation Absolutely, more consistency is important. I think everyone has to have the same tattoo as Juliana to be allowed to work for WMF. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WIKIPEDIA-Tattoo.JPG Happy inking, Steffen -- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Stepro ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Uniform portraits? Maybe that's an idea - I am just imagining Brandon in firefighter uniform, James Forrester in the uniform of a Beefeater guarding the Tower of London, and the whole of Legal in Special Forces cammo led by Geoff carrying a pearl-handled Colt and chomping on a cigar. Make it so! This is all a style/composition question - Do we want to aim for uniform portraits on the staff page or not? On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote: Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. --Teles [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg Its not fine. Look at the colour blotching under the arm. I wouldn't expect that from the 5DII even at ISO 640. Looks like its been pushed a bit too far in post. That said looking at Matthew 's other photos the camera seems to be struggling to get the light levels right when that EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro lens is used. Not sure why though since thats a pretty good lens camera combination. Perhaps if the WMF is going to insist on taking photos of people indoors under ambient light they should get him a EF 85 mm f/1.2L II. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Erik Moeller, 15/07/2013 10:34: (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate should matters escalate quickly.) Scary. I think a copy of a recent statement on gun violence would also come handy. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/07/14/statement-president Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Hello Everyone, As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your feedback. Yes, we are in the process of creating some more consistency in our staff photos for the Wikimedia Foundation staff page, while allowing the people who work here to be seen in a way that feels comfortable to them as well. It is a nice balance that we are still refining. We will be getting a bunch of photos taken during our next all staff meeting in September, so stay tuned. :) We are working on ways at managing consistency in house at the moment and appreciate your feedback and patience. More photos coming soon enough. Mel On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Erik Moeller, 15/07/2013 10:34: (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate should matters escalate quickly.) Scary. I think a copy of a recent statement on gun violence would also come handy. http://www.whitehouse.gov/**the-press-office/2013/07/14/** statement-presidenthttp://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/07/14/statement-president Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@**lists.wikimedia.orgwikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org ?subject=**unsubscribe -- Melanie L. Brown HR Administrator Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6690 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.* https://donate.wikimedia.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Again with the cultural issues! I demand that Brandon get Rocker tattooed on his other arm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mods_and_rockers On 15 July 2013 19:27, John Andersson john.anders...@wikimedia.se wrote: As a non-native English speaker the only real problem that I can see is that the message could be hard to understand for some people. Hence, I hope that Brandon would be willing to internationalize himself a bit and add proper translations. The Swedish translation of Courage is Mod - feel free to add the new tattoo wherever you see fit. Best, John - - - - John Andersson Wikimedia Sverige Project Leader Europeana Awareness Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.anders...@wikimedia.se Skype: johnandersson86 Be sure to follow us on Twitter at @wikieuropeana Would you like to support free knowledge? Please consider becoming a member of Wikimedia Sweden! Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:47:08 +0100 From: geni...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote: Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. --Teles [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg Its not fine. Look at the colour blotching under the arm. I wouldn't expect that from the 5DII even at ISO 640. Looks like its been pushed a bit too far in post. That said looking at Matthew 's other photos the camera seems to be struggling to get the light levels right when that EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro lens is used. Not sure why though since thats a pretty good lens camera combination. Perhaps if the WMF is going to insist on taking photos of people indoors under ambient light they should get him a EF 85 mm f/1.2L II. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:47 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote: Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. --Teles [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg Its not fine. Look at the colour blotching under the arm. I wouldn't expect that from the 5DII even at ISO 640. Looks like its been pushed a bit too far in post. That said looking at Matthew 's other photos the camera seems to be struggling to get the light levels right when that EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro lens is used. Not sure why though since thats a pretty good lens camera combination. Perhaps if the WMF is going to insist on taking photos of people indoors under ambient light they should get him a EF 85 mm f/1.2L II. I find this to be a terribly sexy proposition. I would urge geni to become the new manager for equipment approvals. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *http://blog.wikimedia.org/* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
(Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate should matters escalate quickly.) Erik - to be frank I think this would be a serious mistake. A penguin would have no understanding of the Wikimedia culture. I mean they spend all their time huddling on ice-floes! What's that got to do with creating an encyclopedia? I notice that hardly ANYONE edits Wikipedia from the South Pole, despite it being the only place that everyone can agree is in the Global South. Indeed, what's the whole contribution of Antarctica been to the Wikimedia movement? Sweet fanny adams, that's what. But it doesn't even warrant a mention in the Foundation strategic plan! There is literally a whole continent that we don't care about. I suppose because you don't get many icebergs in San Francisco somehow you think Antarctica does't matter. Frankly we don't need a penguin in the HR department. We need a penguin on the Foundation Board. No, we need a penguin as Executive Director. While Sue has made some really important contributions, I have never seen her hunt fish or waddle around with an egg on her feet. That has to change and it has to change now. It's the only way we will take the South Pole seriously. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On 15 July 2013 00:06, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I'd say that yes, you want uniform pictures, with a uniform idea behind them. For example, all professional, or all slightly informal, or all crazy. It doesn't matter so much about tattoos, but they need to all have the same feel or the page just feels off... I'd say it doesn't really *matter* as such, but all having *something* in common (maybe lighting) would be nice. Ask Brandon, he's the designer ;-) - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On 15 July 2013 21:41, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I find this to be a terribly sexy proposition. I would urge geni to become the new manager for equipment approvals. geni is a Commons admin. Nitpickers so formidable that Counsel has expressed his admiration for their l33t nitpicking. You will have *the* *best* equipment ... eventually. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Small teacup - big storm Totally inoffensive. Peter - Original Message - From: Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com To: Lista da Wikimedia wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:44 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. --Teles [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:16:49 +0100 From: chriskeatingw...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images I am extraordinarily confused to the point that I had to double check my inbox that this is a Wikimedia-l thread. I'd like someone to clarify if this thread has been approved by LaffCom? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote: Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. --Teles I guess it's time to reveal the truth to all of you; Brandon doesn't actually /have/ any fingers. A sad story, really - he irrevocably damaged them throwing the horns at a Dethklok concert. You'd expect it to slow him down, what with his employment as a designer, but luckily his hair is perfectly serviceable as a contact medium with tablets - and, in a pinch, can even be used as a brush. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
This is all a style/composition question - Do we want to aim for uniform portraits on the staff page or not? On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote: Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. --Teles [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg Its not fine. Look at the colour blotching under the arm. I wouldn't expect that from the 5DII even at ISO 640. Looks like its been pushed a bit too far in post. That said looking at Matthew 's other photos the camera seems to be struggling to get the light levels right when that EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro lens is used. Not sure why though since thats a pretty good lens camera combination. Perhaps if the WMF is going to insist on taking photos of people indoors under ambient light they should get him a EF 85 mm f/1.2L II. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
I'd say that yes, you want uniform pictures, with a uniform idea behind them. For example, all professional, or all slightly informal, or all crazy. It doesn't matter so much about tattoos, but they need to all have the same feel or the page just feels off... At the moment it does look a bit odd from an external perspective when one staff member has a different style of profile picture to everyone else. If Brandon's picture was a little more focussed on his face rather than his arm, then I don't think anyone would have a huge problem - except that you'd then probably need to change other staff portraits to be informal (or allow staff to pick which ones they want to have), and the changing (and the approval and monitoring of picture changes to ensure that no-one does something stupid) could increase your workload. Who gets the final say in whether a picture is appropriate? Do you need a staff photo policy? Can I change other people's photos if I'm their friend? Could we change Sue's for a laugh on April 1? What happens if a staff member has a photo taken without a shirt on, or with a potentially offensive tattoo, or an NRA (or a political) logo on their baseball cap or shirt? Do we want to run the risk of alienating and upsetting people over such a small thing as a staff photo? How often do donors (including major gifts) see the page? Will it affect them? There's nothing wrong with a bit of style and a few changes - even lively changes - it's good to make staff appear more like 'normal people'. But it needs a bit of thought behind the scenes to make sure that there's no disruption as a result, and that everyone knows that they can change their picture if they wish. That said, we've got a community with very exacting standards, and even small changes can lead to forty emails on a mailing list quite easily... which is a bit disruptive, regardless of whether the changes are good or bad! (I also realise that I have written three paragraphs about this issue, which is about the same length as the reports I write at work...) Yours etc., Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 14 July 2013 23:37, Victor Grigas vgri...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is all a style/composition question - Do we want to aim for uniform portraits on the staff page or not? On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote: Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. --Teles [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg Its not fine. Look at the colour blotching under the arm. I wouldn't expect that from the 5DII even at ISO 640. Looks like its been pushed a bit too far in post. That said looking at Matthew 's other photos the camera seems to be struggling to get the light levels right when that EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro lens is used. Not sure why though since thats a pretty good lens camera combination. Perhaps if the WMF is going to insist on taking photos of people indoors under ambient light they should get him a EF 85 mm f/1.2L II. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
I am extraordinarily confused to the point that I had to double check my inbox that this is a Wikimedia-l thread. I'd like someone to clarify if this thread has been approved by LaffCom? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
The issue at the 26 odd email chain is that the staff member should be the main focus of their staff photo? That doesn't seem unreasonable… On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote: Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. --Teles [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with it. The images being made by professionals for that. I believe the image Brandon Harris is using since this night is not suitable for a staff picture. The ink he is showing can discourage people and the picture is all but neutral. Secondly he isn't even really on the picture his is faded out. I would strongly advice to keep the images there proffesional. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Hi, a few things... On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. There are volunteers that can also edit the Wikimedia Foundation website. Such accounts can be requested at [[m:WMFACCOUNT]]. Also, the (more) correct place to post this is to create a section at [[m:FWF]] so that people with accounts on the Wikimedia Foundation wiki can look into it and process your request I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with it. The images being made by professionals for that. I believe the image Brandon Harris is using since this night is not suitable for a staff picture. The ink he is showing can discourage people and the picture is all but neutral. Secondly he isn't even really on the picture his is faded out. I would strongly advice to keep the images there proffesional. I would agree with this, the new picture fades his face out, which would defeat the purpose of properly identifying the person in particular. I am going to let someone else change it though :) Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards, Hydriz Be social, follow/add me: Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/hydrizfb Google+: http://tinyurl.com/hydrizgl Twitter: @hydrizwiki ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more unprofessional than absentee (for lack of a better term) pictures being labeled Cloak of invisibility? Or the picture of Rory as mascot? Further, what does all but neutral mean? Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police because someone might be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is upset, and why? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with it. The images being made by professionals for that. I believe the image Brandon Harris is using since this night is not suitable for a staff picture. The ink he is showing can discourage people and the picture is all but neutral. Secondly he isn't even really on the picture his is faded out. I would strongly advice to keep the images there proffesional. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Dan, A placeholder for people without pictures shouldn't be a problem. Thats common use. And they are all the same so thats a OK thing. The picture of Rory is a picture of Rory. It even says its a mascot and I agree with Erik we need Tux for Engineering. And no, we are not in the 1950's but as a international organisation we should still keep in mind that tattoos aren't accepted world wide. Placing your tattoo on a staff page and your face faded away is provocating the fact that he has tattoo's and not proffesional. Secondly all staff pictures are made by a professional photographer? Or kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. Ed From: swatjes...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -0400 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more unprofessional than absentee (for lack of a better term) pictures being labeled Cloak of invisibility? Or the picture of Rory as mascot? Further, what does all but neutral mean? Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police because someone might be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is upset, and why? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with it. The images being made by professionals for that. I believe the image Brandon Harris is using since this night is not suitable for a staff picture. The ink he is showing can discourage people and the picture is all but neutral. Secondly he isn't even really on the picture his is faded out. I would strongly advice to keep the images there proffesional. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Funny thing is, at my work I'm trying to get my staff to take crazy picture for our public staff page. Pictures with stupid/crazy objects, cosplaying, playing games, etc. Because I believe my staff are not well represented by ID Card photos (those are great for passports, but to provide an insight of what we are... not so much). They're awesome people, with great personality and I want people from the outside to know it, and I want people to want to join us and knowing if they're hired they're walking into a mad house. So for one, I love Rory, and Brandon picture is just awesome. My 2 cts -- Christophe On 12 July 2013 10:18, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Dan, A placeholder for people without pictures shouldn't be a problem. Thats common use. And they are all the same so thats a OK thing. The picture of Rory is a picture of Rory. It even says its a mascot and I agree with Erik we need Tux for Engineering. And no, we are not in the 1950's but as a international organisation we should still keep in mind that tattoos aren't accepted world wide. Placing your tattoo on a staff page and your face faded away is provocating the fact that he has tattoo's and not proffesional. Secondly all staff pictures are made by a professional photographer? Or kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. Ed From: swatjes...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -0400 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more unprofessional than absentee (for lack of a better term) pictures being labeled Cloak of invisibility? Or the picture of Rory as mascot? Further, what does all but neutral mean? Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police because someone might be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is upset, and why? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with it. The images being made by professionals for that. I believe the image Brandon Harris is using since this night is not suitable for a staff picture. The ink he is showing can discourage people and the picture is all but neutral. Secondly he isn't even really on the picture his is faded out. I would strongly advice to keep the images there proffesional. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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You realize we have a page on Tattoos that shows just how prevalent they are throughout the world, yes? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoo Also, I think you missed my sarcasm about Rory and the invisibility cloak. They're non-issues, just as Brandon's photo is a non-issue. -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Dan, A placeholder for people without pictures shouldn't be a problem. Thats common use. And they are all the same so thats a OK thing. The picture of Rory is a picture of Rory. It even says its a mascot and I agree with Erik we need Tux for Engineering. And no, we are not in the 1950's but as a international organisation we should still keep in mind that tattoos aren't accepted world wide. Placing your tattoo on a staff page and your face faded away is provocating the fact that he has tattoo's and not proffesional. Secondly all staff pictures are made by a professional photographer? Or kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. Ed From: swatjes...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -0400 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more unprofessional than absentee (for lack of a better term) pictures being labeled Cloak of invisibility? Or the picture of Rory as mascot? Further, what does all but neutral mean? Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police because someone might be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is upset, and why? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with it. The images being made by professionals for that. I believe the image Brandon Harris is using since this night is not suitable for a staff picture. The ink he is showing can discourage people and the picture is all but neutral. Secondly he isn't even really on the picture his is faded out. I would strongly advice to keep the images there proffesional. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On 12 July 2013 09:02, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote: Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police because someone might be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is upset, and why? DFTT. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On 12 July 2013 09:11, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory will eat him. If you're going to add a photo of Tux then you'll have to add a user pagehttps://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Roryand accompanying email address too! -- Thehelpfulone https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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2013/7/12 Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com: On 12 July 2013 09:11, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory will eat him. Well, I think the real real issue is that 10 emails in 2 hours is lame for a Friday Flame :) I say we try again. Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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I think what's really offensive here is the implication that having a tat means that you're not professional. I don't have any ink myself, but I respect the choice of those who do. To be honest, I like the occasionally goofy pictures and profiles on the WMF staff page; it shows that there are real people (and a tiger!) working there and not just corporate drones. Cheers, Craig On 12 July 2013 18:18, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Dan, A placeholder for people without pictures shouldn't be a problem. Thats common use. And they are all the same so thats a OK thing. The picture of Rory is a picture of Rory. It even says its a mascot and I agree with Erik we need Tux for Engineering. And no, we are not in the 1950's but as a international organisation we should still keep in mind that tattoos aren't accepted world wide. Placing your tattoo on a staff page and your face faded away is provocating the fact that he has tattoo's and not proffesional. Secondly all staff pictures are made by a professional photographer? Or kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. Ed From: swatjes...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -0400 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more unprofessional than absentee (for lack of a better term) pictures being labeled Cloak of invisibility? Or the picture of Rory as mascot? Further, what does all but neutral mean? Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police because someone might be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is upset, and why? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with it. The images being made by professionals for that. I believe the image Brandon Harris is using since this night is not suitable for a staff picture. The ink he is showing can discourage people and the picture is all but neutral. Secondly he isn't even really on the picture his is faded out. I would strongly advice to keep the images there proffesional. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Sure; there are countries with taboos around, for example, tattoos. However, given that we run many encyclopaedias containing articles on pretty much everything, taboo or no taboo (including ink!), anyone easily offended is /going/ to be. There's a saying about horses and doors that applies here. Brandon does place his tattoo first. The tattoo, you will note, reads courage. It's what is known as a statement. Brandon is endorsing being bold, not endorsing being inked. On 12 July 2013 12:10, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Hi, I didn't say that people with thats are not proffesionals. I have multiple myself also. I am saying that the page has a lay-out with pictures that all fit together and are specially made for that page. I believe you shouldn't destroy the lay-out or style by adding personal pictures. Otherwhise you should lose the style completly. Secondly we are a world wide organisation, and there are still enough countries where tats are not accepted yet. So it can be wise to try to minimise the things on pictures that can be offensive for some people. And as last. Brandon places his tattoo first and makes his face blurry. Thats why I started posting. If both the tattoo would be vissible and his face I wouldn't have any problems at all. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Its more like making a statement on your official homepage. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Sure; there are countries with taboos around, for example, tattoos. However, given that we run many encyclopaedias containing articles on pretty much everything, taboo or no taboo (including ink!), anyone easily offended is /going/ to be. There's a saying about horses and doors that applies here. Brandon does place his tattoo first. The tattoo, you will note, reads courage. It's what is known as a statement. Brandon is endorsing being bold, not endorsing being inked. On 12 July 2013 12:10, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com wrote: Hi, I didn't say that people with thats are not proffesionals. I have multiple myself also. I am saying that the page has a lay-out with pictures that all fit together and are specially made for that page. I believe you shouldn't destroy the lay-out or style by adding personal pictures. Otherwhise you should lose the style completly. Secondly we are a world wide organisation, and there are still enough countries where tats are not accepted yet. So it can be wise to try to minimise the things on pictures that can be offensive for some people. And as last. Brandon places his tattoo first and makes his face blurry. Thats why I started posting. If both the tattoo would be vissible and his face I wouldn't have any problems at all. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Met vriendelijke groet, Huib Laurens ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Replies inline with quoted message(s)] On 7/12/2013 4:10 AM PDT, Eddy Paine wrote: ...and there are still enough countries where tats are not accepted yet. So it can be wise to try to minimise the things on pictures that can be offensive for some people You make the presumption that the Wikimedia movement is any more socially acceptable than tattoos are (at least in those countries). - -- Sincerely, Andrew FastLizard4 Adams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FastLizard4 fastliza...@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 0x221A627DD76E2616 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJR3+rbAAoJECIaYn3XbiYWbKoQAIFuwNdL3H8MhxxTJHJ3fDAR NLhq293NSTd1TJAT/4oHQvu59SChJn6TVemf5ZdM1Sr+HCwFBkX4KA3VqSObzNG1 YqmEkygeIZGWyUoYy3XnouNBo7Au5Cccw0sEz9hQT8+bYwdESlRYBclIjDKTy9W0 Swz2qzY6MwrdAWsQerJfSHWvaBwh+ZQQIxdQJovqWLD6Uwjjlq4g0lkeBdn4iFpf vYYR7+zkiN2+lVe/rPSpKh+YxTNdwn4xoWoLP4zEClsUIXedcZXEcK4Y7eB+7vsc O+lSeXaZxinuOFxHbrr+rS+wW90ZTnVAxH+inMFFB4XcgOSoWQDg8gnhxEFYRWLO IuN8UajI6m8uqKI7/RM70FZw1ZZ1rS2HSMXiH5qMLp+M5Q1id1iVklcqQAUmIMCh X+NeKHuaXiGtvrdYwvLqcq+DPby+QMFA0fMGAhuRyHmQqsoE+PMvfZcVreVObd2U 2T1dBCVoD42NxDj0b1RpJJbCkfTdZSu1ObwEWJPK836Jry5OJUtUODzMBb6eJ2F0 sg1+onA2fV8uA/p+60aTD8mjo5jujstWx0EIVhEDsY87fBceJdMlpaFAFH1bF8gY +1Jslox1Xq1QLwBZzJPD3beubIU7pKG9vo9eN0WB3LB65akG8p/aP/XcZY3UYygR g7scU60L2S5VQmL9YGDQ =eNO1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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There are countries where women showing her shoulders or nude head are not accepted yet. I think the staff should complaint only about what is accepted where they are (so they wont be arrested). Castelo Branco Em 12/07/2013, às 08:10, Eddy Paine bloggin...@outlook.com escreveu: Hi, I didn't say that people with thats are not proffesionals. I have multiple myself also. I am saying that the page has a lay-out with pictures that all fit together and are specially made for that page. I believe you shouldn't destroy the lay-out or style by adding personal pictures. Otherwhise you should lose the style completly. Secondly we are a world wide organisation, and there are still enough countries where tats are not accepted yet. So it can be wise to try to minimise the things on pictures that can be offensive for some people. And as last. Brandon places his tattoo first and makes his face blurry. Thats why I started posting. If both the tattoo would be vissible and his face I wouldn't have any problems at all. Ed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On 07/12/2013 07:10 AM, Eddy Paine wrote: Secondly we are a world wide organisation, and there are still enough countries where tats are not accepted yet. Then surely, we must err on the side of conservatism! Let's make certain that every woman on staff has a picture in a burka. -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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First, I want to make clear that I express no opinion on the ink conversation. I respect the diverse points of views in our community. I understand that everyone has their own stripes. That said, I am deeply saddened and frankly shocked by allegations voiced by certain people in this thread that somehow I would consider eating Tux, the official mascot of the Linux kernel. As a supporter of the free knowledge movement, I hunger for role models like Tux. Penguins are known for their outstanding qualities[1], and, showing my good taste, I recognize that my small LCA Foundation profile [2] hardly matches the prominent recognition of Tux’s Wikipedia article. [3] I accordingly decided long ago that Tux was off the menu. To the contrary, I offer my paw in friendship to Tux. Some say that open source animals are full of bugs, turning them into organic delights. I do support organic meats. I mean friends. Organic friends. Delicious, organic friends. I am really hungry now. (I’m not allowed to eat legal interns anymore.[4]) Tux, let’s get together soon, real soon, maybe over lunch. Best, Rory Mascot, Legal and Community Advocacy *Disclaimer:* I cannot give legal advice because I am not licensed to practice law. I am also a stuffed toy animal without human intelligence. [1] http://chicago.grubstreet.com/2008/05/what_does_penguin_meat_taste_l.html http://chicago.grubstreet.com/2008/05/what_does_penguin_meat_taste_l.html [2] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Roryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux [4] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Church,_Frederick_Stuart_-_Church_Tiger_having_eaten_professor_-_1905_-_large.jpg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Stripes. Yeah, right. Clearly, Rory is wearing tats of their own. Totally covered in 'em! I'm calling foul. Delicious, organic friends... I wanna see a photo of Tux to verify life. Something's not right here. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Rory roaaa...@wikimedia.org wrote: First, I want to make clear that I express no opinion on the ink conversation. I respect the diverse points of views in our community. I understand that everyone has their own stripes. That said, I am deeply saddened and frankly shocked by allegations voiced by certain people in this thread that somehow I would consider eating Tux, the official mascot of the Linux kernel. As a supporter of the free knowledge movement, I hunger for role models like Tux. Penguins are known for their outstanding qualities[1], and, showing my good taste, I recognize that my small LCA Foundation profile [2] hardly matches the prominent recognition of Tux’s Wikipedia article. [3] I accordingly decided long ago that Tux was off the menu. To the contrary, I offer my paw in friendship to Tux. Some say that open source animals are full of bugs, turning them into organic delights. I do support organic meats. I mean friends. Organic friends. Delicious, organic friends. I am really hungry now. (I’m not allowed to eat legal interns anymore.[4]) Tux, let’s get together soon, real soon, maybe over lunch. Best, Rory Mascot, Legal and Community Advocacy *Disclaimer:* I cannot give legal advice because I am not licensed to practice law. I am also a stuffed toy animal without human intelligence. [1] http://chicago.grubstreet.com/2008/05/what_does_penguin_meat_taste_l.html http://chicago.grubstreet.com/2008/05/what_does_penguin_meat_taste_l.html [2] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Rory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux [4] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Church,_Frederick_Stuart_-_Church_Tiger_having_eaten_professor_-_1905_-_large.jpg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Best regards, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson Yes. *Her again.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On 7/12/2013 3:22 PM, Rory wrote: I am really hungry now. (I’m not allowed to eat legal interns anymore.[4]) Tux, let’s get together soon, real soon, maybe over lunch. Rory, if you're that desperate, may I suggest you scrounge around in your slippers? I'm sure you could find some tasty crumbs in there. --Michael Snow ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
And what happened to 'assume good flavor'... I mean faith! Assume Good Faith! I am sure that Rory has only the best intentions. But it is true that his message could be misinterpreted. I think we should all take a step back and try our very best not to eat each other. I'm sure that if they don't meet over lunch -- and perhaps ensure the expedient measure of living on different floors -- Rory and Tux can be professional colleagues, with the same mission of delicious, delicious (fish-flavored?) free knowledge. -- phoebe On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson cindam...@gmail.comwrote: Stripes. Yeah, right. Clearly, Rory is wearing tats of their own. Totally covered in 'em! I'm calling foul. Delicious, organic friends... I wanna see a photo of Tux to verify life. Something's not right here. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Rory roaaa...@wikimedia.org wrote: First, I want to make clear that I express no opinion on the ink conversation. I respect the diverse points of views in our community. I understand that everyone has their own stripes. That said, I am deeply saddened and frankly shocked by allegations voiced by certain people in this thread that somehow I would consider eating Tux, the official mascot of the Linux kernel. As a supporter of the free knowledge movement, I hunger for role models like Tux. Penguins are known for their outstanding qualities[1], and, showing my good taste, I recognize that my small LCA Foundation profile [2] hardly matches the prominent recognition of Tux’s Wikipedia article. [3] I accordingly decided long ago that Tux was off the menu. To the contrary, I offer my paw in friendship to Tux. Some say that open source animals are full of bugs, turning them into organic delights. I do support organic meats. I mean friends. Organic friends. Delicious, organic friends. I am really hungry now. (I’m not allowed to eat legal interns anymore.[4]) Tux, let’s get together soon, real soon, maybe over lunch. Best, Rory Mascot, Legal and Community Advocacy *Disclaimer:* I cannot give legal advice because I am not licensed to practice law. I am also a stuffed toy animal without human intelligence. [1] http://chicago.grubstreet.com/2008/05/what_does_penguin_meat_taste_l.html http://chicago.grubstreet.com/2008/05/what_does_penguin_meat_taste_l.html [2] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Rory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux [4] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Church,_Frederick_Stuart_-_Church_Tiger_having_eaten_professor_-_1905_-_large.jpg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Best regards, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson Yes. *Her again.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:54 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: And what happened to 'assume good flavor'... I mean faith! Assume Good Faith! I am sure that Rory has only the best intentions. But it is true that his message could be misinterpreted. I think we should all take a step back and try our very best not to eat each other. I'm sure that if they don't meet over lunch -- and perhaps ensure the expedient measure of living on different floors -- Rory and Tux can be professional colleagues, with the same mission of delicious, delicious (fish-flavored?) free knowledge. -- phoebe I am extraordinarily confused to the point that I had to double check my inbox that this is a Wikimedia-l thread. Is this **humor** taking place here? If so, it is off-topic and I would like to see this thread moderated. We don't deserve to giggle :) -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe