On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Fajro wrote:
> I also support the BI idea but this is too off-topic.
Yes, please, people. We have raised awareness just fine, let's not
discuss it here.
thanks,
Peter
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Le 09/01/2014 20:50, Balázs Viczián a écrit :
> I like such proposals (sarcasm).
>
> where do you get the money from, what you wish to distribute?
>
> In general free money -> less people will work (why to work if I still get
> money? - see the masses living on unemployment benefits - libre time
I also support the BI idea but this is too off-topic.
Please discuss this in a more appropriate place (talk pages or
/r/basicincome in reddit, etc).
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I like such proposals (sarcasm).
where do you get the money from, what you wish to distribute?
In general free money -> less people will work (why to work if I still get
money? - see the masses living on unemployment benefits - libre time :) )
-> less people working -> higher taxes -> people will
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Mark wrote:
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>
> A basic income would remove the need for such accounting overhead, since
> one could just focus on how to best contribute to society, without having
> to worry about how to "monetize" and "own" every contribution. But absent
> such significant ch
On 1/9/14, 6:05 AM, Jonathan Deamer wrote:
The idea that it might increase the level of cognitive surplus available to
open source and collaborative projects, and so these projects might have a
political interest in encouraging a basic income, is quite novel to me.
This is something I've been
I'd suggest that income is not a particularly significant factor in whether
or not people participate in the Wikimedia movement, particularly as
editors. Infrastructure including internet access, education, and
availability of technology are far more significant.
These are all abundantly availabl
Seb35, 09/01/2014 10:59:
As a Wikipmedian, I dream of such a basic income: it would empower the
people to edit the Wikimedia projects by giving them libre time (libre as
free speech). [...]
There are many political and economical variations of the proposal, but
this is usually *not* the stated
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Seb35 wrote:
> If a basic income is implemented somewhere in the world, people will have
> more time for themselves in mean (probably more partial-time work), so they
> will have more time to edit the Wikimedia projects, among other possible
> activities. ~S
Even
I know this initiative and it is also requested by M5S in Italy.
The problem is connected with the funds to finance this initiative.
The base is that a minimum income (and not guaranteed minimum salary) is
considered as a good way to assure also the reactivation of the internal
market, but no one
On 9 January 2014 13:13, Seb35 wrote:
>
> If a basic income is implemented somewhere in the world, people will have
> more time for themselves in mean (probably more partial-time work), so they
> will have more time to edit the Wikimedia projects, among other possible
> activities. ~S
True. It
If a basic income is implemented somewhere in the world, people will have
more time for themselves in mean (probably more partial-time work), so
they will have more time to edit the Wikimedia projects, among other
possible activities. ~S
Le Thu, 09 Jan 2014 13:55:39 +0100, Fæ a écrit:
Tha
Le 09/01/2014 13:53, Ilario Valdelli a écrit :
> In Switzerland the national referendum has not approved it.
>
> There was the idea to have a minimum guaranteed salary for all citizens and
> the 1:12 (a manager could not receive a salary which is more than 12 times
> than that of an employee of th
Thanks. I don't see how this relates to Wikimedia projects, by definition
it is not.
On 9 January 2014 12:40, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote:
> Le 09/01/2014 13:36, Fæ a écrit :
> > The WMF has recently clarified that they "frown upon" paid editing.
> > Presumably offering basic wage for people to e
In Switzerland the national referendum has not approved it.
There was the idea to have a minimum guaranteed salary for all citizens and
the 1:12 (a manager could not receive a salary which is more than 12 times
than that of an employee of the same company) but both of them have not
been approved b
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote:
> > The WMF has recently clarified that they "frown upon" paid editing.
> > Presumably offering basic wage for people to edit Wikipedia is still paid
> > editing?
>
> The answer is "no", because the basic income is *unconditional*.
> This
Le 09/01/2014 13:36, Fæ a écrit :
> The WMF has recently clarified that they "frown upon" paid editing.
> Presumably offering basic wage for people to edit Wikipedia is still paid
> editing?
The answer is "no", because the basic income is *unconditional*.
This is an income, not at wage.
Definiti
The WMF has recently clarified that they "frown upon" paid editing.
Presumably offering basic wage for people to edit Wikipedia is still paid
editing?
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Interesting! As a member of the Green Party this is something I've read a
little bit about, but it's mostly spoken of in the context of its effects on
the welfare state.
The idea that it might increase the level of cognitive surplus available to
open source and collaborative projects, and so th
Le 09/01/2014 10:59, Seb35 a écrit :
> For a TL;DR about the concept, the idea of an (unconditionnal) basic
> income is to give each citizen of a country a sum of money in order to
> fullfill their basic needs: lodging, eat, be healthy. To give an idea of
> the amount, one hears often 800-1000 € in
Hello,
I would like to speak on this list about the basic income.
For a TL;DR about the concept, the idea of an (unconditionnal) basic
income is to give each citizen of a country a sum of money in order to
fullfill their basic needs: lodging, eat, be healthy. To give an idea of
the amount, one h
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