Re: [Wikimedia-l] Clarification by Lila Tretikov about MediaViewer

2014-08-14 Thread Richard Farmbrough
The community too is asking for kindness and consideration.  Riding
roughshod over community consensus does not equate to kindness, or even
wisdom, unless it it that of Niccolò Machiavelli!

The Mission Statement of the Foundation says


*The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people
around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free
license https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:free_content or in the public
domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally.*
If the WMF would remember the word empower we would not get these
issues.   The Foundation needs to empower the community to disseminate
content not dictate to the community how content will be disseminated.

All the best,  Rich Farmbrough.


On 13 August 2014 13:01, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote:

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  From: Ad Huikeshoven a...@wikimedia.nl
  Date: 13 August 2014 12:40:14 BST
  To: wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Clarification by Lila Tretikov about MediaViewer
 
  Dear fellow Wikipedians and Wikimedians,
 
  Your work in creating the awesome thing Wikipedia is very much
 appreciated and you're all recognized for contributing towards it's
 success. Last weekend I have been to Wikimania. I really enjoyed the
 presentation by Fabrice Florin about A Culture of Kindness [1]. One of the
 slide contains a picture of Jimmy Wales holding a sheet of paper on which
 he has written 'be kind to everyone, including the annoying ones'.
 
  There have been multiple threads on this list with many postings about
 actions on the German Wikipedia with respect to MediaViewer. On meta Lila
 Tretikov has posted several remarks including an additional clarification
 [2], which I copy below:
 
  quote
  * Our overall communication, design, prioritization, testing, roll-out
 mechanisms and general product development practices are insufficient and
 must be brought on-par with our user’s expectations. We are not planning
 any new major deployments until some of those basic improvements are put
 into place. This will be done in the open; it is fundamental and urgent.
 I've touched on it at Wikimania.
  * We are not removing MV.  It has been in production for months. Its
 removal will cause more problems and confusion for our users.  We will hold
 ourselves accountable to getting it to the level of quality that is
 expected of the top site.
  * We are working to post next steps to clarify development and
 deployment process including rights and responsibilities; you can expect
 more information in coming days.
  * I encourage you to help us improve our process as a whole as well as
 this specific feature by offering your time, advice, and collaboration. We
 will be engaging you on it. Please refrain from making unassisted changes
 to  the feature’s configuration.
  /quote
 
  What Fabrice and Jimmy ask for is to be kind. What I would like to
 express is that many of the postings about MediaViewer do annoy me, and
 some are very annoying. What I do ask of my fellow Wikipedians is to
 continue to contribute to Wikipedia in a kind way, to pay attention to what
 Lila has posted on meta and which I copied above.
 
  Some of you might be curious to learn to know the ideas of Lila. She
 made a presentation at Wikimania, which can be viewed on line [3]. Please
 collaborate in the development of processes in a kind way. Thank you.
  ---
  [1]
 https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/A_Culture_of_Kindness
  [2]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALilaTretikovdiff=9501584oldid=9501543
  [3] http://new.livestream.com/wikimania/saturday2014
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  Educatieprogramma / Education Program
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Clarification by Lila Tretikov about MediaViewer

2014-08-13 Thread Thehelpfulone
Forwarding on request.

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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Ad Huikeshoven a...@wikimedia.nl
 Date: 13 August 2014 12:40:14 BST
 To: wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Clarification by Lila Tretikov about MediaViewer
 
 Dear fellow Wikipedians and Wikimedians,
 
 Your work in creating the awesome thing Wikipedia is very much appreciated 
 and you're all recognized for contributing towards it's success. Last weekend 
 I have been to Wikimania. I really enjoyed the presentation by Fabrice Florin 
 about A Culture of Kindness [1]. One of the slide contains a picture of Jimmy 
 Wales holding a sheet of paper on which he has written 'be kind to everyone, 
 including the annoying ones'.
 
 There have been multiple threads on this list with many postings about 
 actions on the German Wikipedia with respect to MediaViewer. On meta Lila 
 Tretikov has posted several remarks including an additional clarification 
 [2], which I copy below:
 
 quote
 * Our overall communication, design, prioritization, testing, roll-out 
 mechanisms and general product development practices are insufficient and 
 must be brought on-par with our user’s expectations. We are not planning any 
 new major deployments until some of those basic improvements are put into 
 place. This will be done in the open; it is fundamental and urgent. I've 
 touched on it at Wikimania.
 * We are not removing MV.  It has been in production for months. Its removal 
 will cause more problems and confusion for our users.  We will hold ourselves 
 accountable to getting it to the level of quality that is expected of the top 
 site.
 * We are working to post next steps to clarify development and deployment 
 process including rights and responsibilities; you can expect more 
 information in coming days.
 * I encourage you to help us improve our process as a whole as well as this 
 specific feature by offering your time, advice, and collaboration. We will be 
 engaging you on it. Please refrain from making unassisted changes to  the 
 feature’s configuration.
 /quote
 
 What Fabrice and Jimmy ask for is to be kind. What I would like to express is 
 that many of the postings about MediaViewer do annoy me, and some are very 
 annoying. What I do ask of my fellow Wikipedians is to continue to contribute 
 to Wikipedia in a kind way, to pay attention to what Lila has posted on meta 
 and which I copied above. 
 
 Some of you might be curious to learn to know the ideas of Lila. She made a 
 presentation at Wikimania, which can be viewed on line [3]. Please 
 collaborate in the development of processes in a kind way. Thank you.
 ---
 [1] https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/A_Culture_of_Kindness
 [2] 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALilaTretikovdiff=9501584oldid=9501543
 [3] http://new.livestream.com/wikimania/saturday2014
 -- 
 Ad Huikeshoven
 
 Bestuurslid / Board member Wikimedia Nederland
 Internationaal / International Affairs
 Educatieprogramma / Education Program
 
 tel.(+31) (0)70 3608510
 mob. (+31) (0)6 40293574
 
 Steun vrije kennis! Kijk op wikimedia.nl 
 Postadres:  Bezoekadres:
 Postbus 167Mariaplaats 3
 3500 AD  Utrecht Utrecht
 
 ABNAMRO NL33 ABNA 0497164833 - Kamer van Koophandel 17189036
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