Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Anirudh Bhati
Hi Asaf,

Thank you for posting this and a grand welcome to all the new arrivals in
the GAC. ;)

I see that some of the folks have chosen to remain anonymous (many of whom
I identify as prolific contributors to our projects) but I would like to
know whether the Wikimedia Foundation has independently verified their
identity prior to induction into the body?

I understand that the body plays only an advisory role into the process
with the final decision resting on the staff, however, the GAC voice
carries a fair amount of weight as well (as far as I'm aware).  Therefore,
I believe, it would serve the interest of all the stakeholders, specially
the community, to know and be assured that the WMF has already taken steps
to identify those who would be responsible for advising the WMF on the
dissemination of funds to grant applications from individuals and chapters
(non-FDC).

My personal opinion is that though anonymity is great motivator for our
volunteer contributors on projects, but at the same time it can lead to
reduced accountability and moral responsibility for work that has direct
implications in the real world.  I apologize in advance if I have made any
mistake in fact, and would be happy to hear any differing views on the
subject.

Sincerely,

Anirudh Bhati

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
 Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30 volunteers,
 following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
 list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
 higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation of
 grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
 diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
 proposals for best impact.

 The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly doing
 what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
 have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a little
 now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
 grant proposals they would be called upon to review.

 Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
 fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
 grants program.

Asaf

 [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
 [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov
You can always check the list of users identified to the Foundation:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Identification_noticeboard

Alex



2012/7/24 Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com

 Hi Asaf,

 Thank you for posting this and a grand welcome to all the new arrivals in
 the GAC. ;)

 I see that some of the folks have chosen to remain anonymous (many of whom
 I identify as prolific contributors to our projects) but I would like to
 know whether the Wikimedia Foundation has independently verified their
 identity prior to induction into the body?

 I understand that the body plays only an advisory role into the process
 with the final decision resting on the staff, however, the GAC voice
 carries a fair amount of weight as well (as far as I'm aware).  Therefore,
 I believe, it would serve the interest of all the stakeholders, specially
 the community, to know and be assured that the WMF has already taken steps
 to identify those who would be responsible for advising the WMF on the
 dissemination of funds to grant applications from individuals and chapters
 (non-FDC).

 My personal opinion is that though anonymity is great motivator for our
 volunteer contributors on projects, but at the same time it can lead to
 reduced accountability and moral responsibility for work that has direct
 implications in the real world.  I apologize in advance if I have made any
 mistake in fact, and would be happy to hear any differing views on the
 subject.

 Sincerely,

 Anirudh Bhati

 On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  Hello, everyone.
 
  I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
  Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30
 volunteers,
  following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
  list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
  higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation
 of
  grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
  diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
  proposals for best impact.
 
  The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly
 doing
  what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
  have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a
 little
  now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
  grant proposals they would be called upon to review.
 
  Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
  fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
  grants program.
 
 Asaf
 
  [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
  [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
  [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:13:27 +, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov wrote:

You can always check the list of users identified to the Foundation:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Identification_noticeboard

Alex





Which means the answer is no: not all committee members have been 
identified.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Ivan Martínez
Thank you very much for the opportunity and trust. I'll do my best!
Saludos.

2012/7/23 Abbas Mahmood abbas...@hotmail.com


 Welcome!
 Looking forward to working with the new members.
 SincerelyAbbas.

  From: abar...@wikimedia.org
  Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:20:20 -0700
  To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded
 
  Hello, everyone.
 
  I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
  Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30
 volunteers,
  following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
  list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
  higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation
 of
  grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
  diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
  proposals for best impact.
 
  The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly
 doing
  what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
  have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a
 little
  now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
  grant proposals they would be called upon to review.
 
  Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
  fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
  grants program.
 
 Asaf
 
  [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
  [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
  [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Béria Lima
The question is: They will?

(For disclosure, I'm a member of GAC - since the beginning last year - and
I'm identified since 2008.)
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On 24 July 2012 09:21, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote:

 On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:13:27 +, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov wrote:

 You can always check the list of users identified to the Foundation:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Identification_**noticeboardhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Identification_noticeboard

 Alex




 Which means the answer is no: not all committee members have been
 identified.

 Cheers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:13:05 -0300, Béria Lima wrote:

The question is: They will?

(For disclosure, I'm a member of GAC - since the beginning last year 
- and

I'm identified since 2008.)
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ter

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I checked that there are 2011 GAC members who were not identified. I 
assumed since nobody cared for a year, this is not considered necessary.


Cheers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Katie Chan

 Which means the answer is no: not all committee members have been
 identified.

 Cheers
 Yaroslav

Hardly any are, including existing members. Those that are identified to 
the foundation are so because of other current or former positions.



On 24/07/2012 16:13, Béria Lima wrote:

The question is: They will?

(For disclosure, I'm a member of GAC - since the beginning last year - and
I'm identified since 2008.)


AFAIK, it's not been a requirement and it wasn't stated as a requirement 
in the call for (self-)nomination, which I was slightly surprised at 
initially but seeing as there's no access to either restricted 
permissions or non-public data[1], is thus not covered by the Access to 
nonpublic data policy[2].


KTC


(Disclosure: New member, identified 2008.)


[1] Everything is done on Meta
[2] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Access_to_nonpublic_data_policy

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
As the GAC doesn't actually take any decision, nor handles any private 
data (it seems), I don't see why it should require identification.


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-24 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, Anirudh.

Thanks for the welcoming note.  As others have noted, we have not required
all members to identify to the Foundation, and those that are identified
are so in other capacities.  As Katie and Nemo pointed out, GAC work is all
done in the open on Meta, and no personal information or actual money is
involved, so it is not felt necessary to require identification.

Furthermore, it is hoped that the open nomination process gave ample time
to express concerns, publicly or privately.

So we take the wiki way, which is to trust people in their chosen
identities to the extent practical and permissible by law.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Asaf,

 Thank you for posting this and a grand welcome to all the new arrivals in
 the GAC. ;)

 I see that some of the folks have chosen to remain anonymous (many of whom
 I identify as prolific contributors to our projects) but I would like to
 know whether the Wikimedia Foundation has independently verified their
 identity prior to induction into the body?

 I understand that the body plays only an advisory role into the process
 with the final decision resting on the staff, however, the GAC voice
 carries a fair amount of weight as well (as far as I'm aware).  Therefore,
 I believe, it would serve the interest of all the stakeholders, specially
 the community, to know and be assured that the WMF has already taken steps
 to identify those who would be responsible for advising the WMF on the
 dissemination of funds to grant applications from individuals and chapters
 (non-FDC).

 My personal opinion is that though anonymity is great motivator for our
 volunteer contributors on projects, but at the same time it can lead to
 reduced accountability and moral responsibility for work that has direct
 implications in the real world.  I apologize in advance if I have made any
 mistake in fact, and would be happy to hear any differing views on the
 subject.

 Sincerely,

 Anirudh Bhati

 On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  Hello, everyone.
 
  I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
  Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30
 volunteers,
  following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
  list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
  higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation
 of
  grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
  diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
  proposals for best impact.
 
  The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly
 doing
  what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
  have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a
 little
  now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
  grant proposals they would be called upon to review.
 
  Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
  fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
  grants program.
 
 Asaf
 
  [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
  [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
  [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
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[Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-23 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone.

I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30 volunteers,
following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation of
grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
proposals for best impact.

The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly doing
what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a little
now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
grant proposals they would be called upon to review.

Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
grants program.

   Asaf

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
[3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

2012-07-23 Thread Abbas Mahmood

Welcome!
Looking forward to working with the new members.
SincerelyAbbas.

 From: abar...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:20:20 -0700
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded
 
 Hello, everyone.
 
 I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
 Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30 volunteers,
 following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
 list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
 higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation of
 grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
 diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
 proposals for best impact.
 
 The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly doing
 what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
 have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a little
 now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
 grant proposals they would be called upon to review.
 
 Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
 fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
 grants program.
 
Asaf
 
 [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
 [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
 -- 
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