Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-26 Thread Jon Davies
Thanks Dab - downloaded. The 'night mode' or 'under the blankets' seems a
good idea.


On 25 June 2014 19:28, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
 Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
 available on Google
 Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.

 Our new features include:

- *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit Wikipedia
faster than ever before.
- *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
out, we thank you for all your contributions.
- *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you can
tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
- *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
- *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the sum
of all human knowledge.
- *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
reading Wikipedia written in any language.
- *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many
 developing
areas.

 Coming soon:

- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much easier.
- *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for both
new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the app.

 This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
 new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
 experience out there.

 Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Thank you!

 Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 June 2014 03:18, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:

 On Jun 26, 2014 2:16 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
  You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined
 options
  for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
  summary.

 Where?

 Since phone screens are small, you may have noticed that the editing
 process is broken up over a couple of separate steps.

Of course.

 The preview stage
 gives you a chance to select some 'canned' brief edit summaries, or select
 'other' and input your own.

 Here's a screen recording I just made of the process:

 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Adding_an_edit_summary_in_Wikipedia_Android_app_version_2.ogv

Thank you. I didn't see the options (buttons) for pre-selected
summaries, nor the Other option.

On further experimentation, they are hidden above the top of the
screen, and I need to scroll up to see them.

I'm using the native browser on an Android 2.3.5 device.

[As a matter of interest, what software did you use to capture the video?]

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-26 Thread Jan Ainali
2014-06-26 12:22 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:

 On 26 June 2014 03:18, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 
  wrote:
 
 Thank you. I didn't see the options (buttons) for pre-selected
 summaries, nor the Other option.

 On further experimentation, they are hidden above the top of the
 screen, and I need to scroll up to see them.

 I'm using the native browser on an Android 2.3.5 device.


Then you are not using the app that this thread is talking about?

/Jan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 June 2014 12:02, Jan Ainali jan.ain...@wikimedia.se wrote:

 I'm using the native browser on an Android 2.3.5 device.

 Then you are not using the app that this thread is talking about?

Doh! Sorry, I'm using *the app* under Android 2.3.5.

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[Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Dan Garry
Hi everyone,

If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
available on Google
Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.

Our new features include:

   - *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit Wikipedia
   faster than ever before.
   - *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
   out, we thank you for all your contributions.
   - *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you can
   tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
   - *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
   browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
   - *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the sum
   of all human knowledge.
   - *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
   reading Wikipedia written in any language.
   - *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
   world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many developing
   areas.

Coming soon:

   - *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
   feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
   inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much easier.
   - *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for both
   new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the app.

This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
experience out there.

Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Brion Vibber
Congratulations to the Mobile Apps Android team on their first release of
the new app!

iPhone users, rest assured we're hard at work polishing up the iOS version,
which brings the same updated feature set. Expect it in the next few
weeks...

-- brion


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
 Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
 available on Google
 Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.

 Our new features include:

- *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit Wikipedia
faster than ever before.
- *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
out, we thank you for all your contributions.
- *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you can
tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
- *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
- *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the sum
of all human knowledge.
- *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
reading Wikipedia written in any language.
- *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many
 developing
areas.

 Coming soon:

- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much easier.
- *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for both
new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the app.

 This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
 new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
 experience out there.

 Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Thank you!

 Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Sage Ross
For those without Google Play access or who otherwise prefer
sideloading, here's the APK you can install directly:
https://releases.wikimedia.org/mobile/android/wikipedia/stable/wikipedia-2.0.apk

-Sage

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
 Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
 available on Google
 Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.

 Our new features include:

- *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit Wikipedia
faster than ever before.
- *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
out, we thank you for all your contributions.
- *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you can
tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
- *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
- *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the sum
of all human knowledge.
- *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
reading Wikipedia written in any language.
- *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many developing
areas.

 Coming soon:

- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much easier.
- *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for both
new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the app.

 This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
 new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
 experience out there.

 Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Thank you!

 Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Miguel García
Great work!

However, I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature? :_(
El 25/06/2014 21:07, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com escribió:

 For those without Google Play access or who otherwise prefer
 sideloading, here's the APK you can install directly:

 https://releases.wikimedia.org/mobile/android/wikipedia/stable/wikipedia-2.0.apk

 -Sage

 On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
  Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
  available on Google
  Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.
 
  Our new features include:
 
 - *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit
 Wikipedia
 faster than ever before.
 - *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
 out, we thank you for all your contributions.
 - *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you
 can
 tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
 - *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
 browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
 - *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the
 sum
 of all human knowledge.
 - *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
 reading Wikipedia written in any language.
 - *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
 world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many
 developing
 areas.
 
  Coming soon:
 
 - *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
 feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
 inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much
 easier.
 - *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for
 both
 new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the
 app.
 
  This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
  new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
  experience out there.
 
  Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
  mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.
 
  Thank you!
 
  Dan
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 June 2014 20:18, Miguel García miguelgar...@wikimedia.org.es wrote:
 I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
 articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature?

I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe this has been
removed; nor that its removal came as a surprise.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Samuel Klein
This is looking great.  Editing on the new app has been working very
well for me.

Except that my mobile operator's IP is often blocked and not allowed
to create accounts on en:wp ...

 Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?

Sam.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Alex Monk
On 25 June 2014 23:29, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?


All lists are @lists.wikimedia.org. This address points to an OTRS queue
(specifically, mobile::Android (Wikipedia)).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Dan Garry
Responses in-line.

On 25 June 2014 15:29, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Except that my mobile operator's IP is often blocked and not allowed
 to create accounts on en:wp ...


Indeed. There's not really much we can do about that, unfortunately.
However, the IP ranges for mobile operators are typically softblocked, so
if you have an account you can log in and use that to edit.



 Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?


mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org points to an OTRS queue which makes
it much easier for us to manage the feedback. We're trying to keep all the
feedback in one channel so that we don't lose anything.

Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Dan Garry
Hi Andy,

The new app was built in native code from the ground up. So the nearby
feature wasn't removed as much as it was never implemented.

I apologise if I sound pedantic, but this distinction is important; for the
initial release of the new app, we focussed on the barebones features that
we needed to have included as much as we possibly could while still getting
this out of the door. The nearby feature didn't bubble up in importance as
much as the others.

Right now, the most requested item in our feedback channels by far is a
dark mode for night time reading. The number of requests for that are at
least an order of magnitude larger than requests for any other feature, so
we're focussing our efforts on that. But nearby is definitely on our
roadmap.

Thanks!

Dan




On 25 June 2014 15:14, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 25 June 2014 20:18, Miguel García miguelgar...@wikimedia.org.es
 wrote:
  I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
  articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature?

 I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe this has been
 removed; nor that its removal came as a surprise.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
The distinction is false. I have not (and more to the point, the many users
who know nothing about our internal workings will not have) installed a
new app; I have upgraded an existing app.

There was no mention in the list of changes, and no warning elsewhere, that
this extremely useful functionality would disappear from my device when I
did so.
On Jun 26, 2014 12:11 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi Andy,

 The new app was built in native code from the ground up. So the nearby
 feature wasn't removed as much as it was never implemented.

 I apologise if I sound pedantic, but this distinction is important; for the
 initial release of the new app, we focussed on the barebones features that
 we needed to have included as much as we possibly could while still getting
 this out of the door. The nearby feature didn't bubble up in importance as
 much as the others.

 Right now, the most requested item in our feedback channels by far is a
 dark mode for night time reading. The number of requests for that are at
 least an order of magnitude larger than requests for any other feature, so
 we're focussing our efforts on that. But nearby is definitely on our
 roadmap.

 Thanks!

 Dan




 On 25 June 2014 15:14, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

  On 25 June 2014 20:18, Miguel García miguelgar...@wikimedia.org.es
  wrote:
   I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
   articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature?
 
  I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe this has been
  removed; nor that its removal came as a surprise.
 
  --
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  @pigsonthewing
  http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no way
to enter an edit summary.

This is troubling in itself, but it is also at odds with the WMF's new
terms of use, which require disclosure of paid edits, and suggest that that
can be made in edit summaries (among other options, equally unavailable in
the app).
On Jun 25, 2014 11:29 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is looking great.  Editing on the new app has been working very
 well for me.

 Except that my mobile operator's IP is often blocked and not allowed
 to create accounts on en:wp ...

  Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no way
 to enter an edit summary.

I think you did (miss something). It gives you canned summaries Fixed
typo, Fixed grammar, Added links, and an Other option. If you
select Other, you can provide your own summary.
-- 
Erik Möller
VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Sage Ross
On Jun 25, 2014 9:12 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no way
 to enter an edit summary.

You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined options
for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
summary.

-Sage
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jun 25, 2014 7:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!

Sections are no longer collapsed on opening a page. This makes it harder to
reach the latter sections of long articles, and presents the reader with a
mobile-unfriendly wall of text.

Can this be configurable (akin to some browser's privacy mode)?

- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much
easier.

I don't doubt that astronomers and the like would prefer red-on-black.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
Apologies; my can this be configurable question was in reply to the point
on browsing history.
On Jun 26, 2014 2:19 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:


 On Jun 25, 2014 7:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!

 Sections are no longer collapsed on opening a page. This makes it harder
 to reach the latter sections of long articles, and presents the reader with
 a mobile-unfriendly wall of text.

 Can this be configurable (akin to some browser's privacy mode)?

 - *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
 feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
 inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much
 easier.

 I don't doubt that astronomers and the like would prefer red-on-black.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:

 Sections are no longer collapsed on opening a page. This makes it harder to
 reach the latter sections of long articles, and presents the reader with a
 mobile-unfriendly wall of text.

 Can this be configurable (akin to some browser's privacy mode)?


With the new generation of the app we've gone with a table of contents menu
in place of the confusing auto-collapsing of sections (which required
individually opening every section in turn for a full read, and was still
hard to scroll back *up* somewhere).

There's a button on the toolbar to open the table of contents; from there
you can jump immediately to any section.

-- brion
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jun 26, 2014 2:16 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jun 25, 2014 9:12 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no
way
  to enter an edit summary.

 You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined options
 for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
 summary.

Where?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:

 On Jun 26, 2014 2:16 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
  You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined
 options
  for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
  summary.

 Where?


Since phone screens are small, you may have noticed that the editing
process is broken up over a couple of separate steps. The preview stage
gives you a chance to select some 'canned' brief edit summaries, or select
'other' and input your own.

Here's a screen recording I just made of the process:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Adding_an_edit_summary_in_Wikipedia_Android_app_version_2.ogv

-- brion
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