[Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all, Last weekend we had a discussion about how to 'sell' the importance of Wikipedia to economics-focused people (a.k.a. politicians etc), and the question came up on how much Wikipedia contributes to the global economy. Many people access it daily, and the information they get from that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Fred Bauder
The value would be obvious if Wikipedia were a for profit company listed on the stock markets. Not that it would have a real value identical to a computation based on imagined advertising revenue. It is in the billions though. Fred Hi all, Last weekend we had a discussion about how to 'sell'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Andrew Gray
The Economist had an estimate recently: http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21573091-how-quantify-gains-internet-has-brought-consumers-net-benefits http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2013/03/technology-2 - of approximately $50m value to readers. It's a pretty vague

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Anders Wennersten
In preparation of the strategic planning a few years ago, we at the Audi committee made some calculation to estimate the theoretical potential of donation from different perspectives, like what other NGO got. We then come to the standpoint that the potential was several times that of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Lodewijk
However, those numbers are not exactly what I'm looking for. I do not want to know what it would be worth as a company, or how much people are willing to pay for it. But how big is the impact? How much positive value does Wikipedia add to the world economy? I hope this number is significantly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Lodewijk
(sorry, this came off a bit too sharp :) Thanks for all the input, anything is better than nothing of course!) 2013/4/8 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org However, those numbers are not exactly what I'm looking for. I do not want to know what it would be worth as a company, or how much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Fred Bauder
Don't worry. Any one who has thought about this sort of thing much has come away more puzzled than when they began. What for example is the value of a cigarette? The price is rather easy. Fred (sorry, this came off a bit too sharp :) Thanks for all the input, anything is better than nothing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-04-08 16:13, Federico Leva (Nemo) a écrit : Fred Bauder, 08/04/2013 15:38: Don't worry. Any one who has thought about this sort of thing much has come away more puzzled than when they began. What for example is the value of a cigarette? The price is rather easy. Better example: what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Alex Peek
Clay Shirky talks about the importance of online collaboration: http://www.ted.com/talks/clay_shirky_on_institutions_versus_collaboration.html On 8 April 2013 07:13, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Fred Bauder, 08/04/2013 15:38: Don't worry. Any one who has thought about this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Lodewijk
Libraries are indeed a very interesting comparison. There are numerous studies into valuing the economic value of libraries, with varying definitions, including [1] from 2002 estimating the economic value of the British library system and [2] giving an overview of different studies and their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The Economist had an estimate recently: http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21573091-how-quantify-gains-internet-has-brought-consumers-net-benefits

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Balázs Viczián
Just measure up the homework-for-hire market, what Wikipedia had almost ruined; that would be already millions of $ worldwide :) B. 2013/4/8 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org However, those numbers are not exactly what I'm looking for. I do not want to know what it would be worth as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 8 April 2013 13:36, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The Economist had an estimate recently: http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21573091-how-quantify-gains-internet-has-brought-consumers-net-benefits