Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-25 Thread Jeevan Jose
I tried to make the PDF of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-6_Twin_Otter It credits File:WinAir De Havilland Canada DHC-6-300 Twin Otter Breidenstein.jpg Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WinAir_De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-6-300_Twin_Otter_Breidenstein.jpg

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Mark
On 8/24/14, 7:03 PM, Jeevan Jose wrote: Try to download as PDF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheetah Check Image Sources, Licenses and Contributors. It attributes File:Cheetah Feb09 02.jpg Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Cheetah_Feb09_02.jpg License: unknown

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Michael Peel
Hmm, that file seems to be released under a non-commercial Creative Commons license, in addition to the GFDL. The bug here seems to be bad licensing, rather than bad attribution (since when did we start accepting -NC licenses?!). Thanks, Mike On 24 Aug 2014, at 18:03, Jeevan Jose

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Michael Peel
I've swapped it for a CC-licensed file that does allow for commercial reuse. Problem solved? Thanks, Mike On 24 Aug 2014, at 19:55, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Hmm, that file seems to be released under a non-commercial Creative Commons license, in addition to the GFDL. The bug

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Pete Forsyth
Mike -- Did you see the recent discussion about this at [[Talk:Cheetah]]? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cheetah#Lead_photo_license Although Erik Moeller recommended in 2008 (with the move to Creative Commons licenses) that we stop permitting new uploads of files on the basis of a GFDL

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Pete Forsyth
I don't mean to divert this thread into a discussion of the GFDL loophole, though -- Jeevan's original question about PDF output is a good one, it's important that all WM software honor attribution requirements (and, ideally, non legally-binding wishes) appropriately. Pete On Sun, Aug 24, 2014

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Michael Peel
Hey Pete, Thanks for pointing me towards that discussion - I hadn't spotted it, and I've replied (and apologised for not noticing it) accordingly. This is definitely a loop worth closing, as it's a right pain to deal with when working with derivative images of Wikipedia page screenshots. For a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Mark
On 8/24/14, 9:34 PM, Michael Peel wrote: I can kinda understand why the software doesn't deal with messed-up situations like this - it shouldn't need to do so in the first place. I hope that we as a community can fix this by sensible licensing choices, rather than blaming the software. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Jean-Frédéric
Hi, This is definitely a loop worth closing This is mentionned in the Talk page discussion, but for the benefits of all list readers who might not check it out :): please see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/AppropriatelyLicensed -- Jean-Fred

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Jeevan Jose
Thanks Mark for pointing me to the new PDF exporter; hope it will improve the accuracy of data gathering from file pages. BTW, I improved the file page [1], and now contributor is attributing properly [2]. But it still failed to fetch the license. So my understanding is that the current script is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-24 Thread Jeevan Jose
I don't know, it seems to me that deploying new software ASAP before it has been exhaustively tested by the end user base has caused a few headaches lately ;-). Cheers, Craig ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: