Re: [Wikimedia-l] general strategic goals

2014-05-11 Thread Wil Sinclair
One of the tricks about using metrics to make decisions is that many
metrics are more or less easily manipulated to affect the decisions
themselves. It's a sort of social version of the Uncertainty
principle, and the uncertainty in this case would be the integrity of
the metrics.

That's not to say that metrics should not influence policy or other
decisions; it simply means that good metrics are typically
measurements of indirect and aggregate data.

,Wil

On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:59 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
 Philippe Beaudette wrote:

... asking which of those things people support
 *in a vacuum* [is] not the question at hand

 That is true. A community survey leading to revision of strategic
 goals should be asked of actual contributors, i.e., by selecting
 editors from wikis' recent changes around the clock in proportion to
 the volume of edits each hour, and asking them which do you think
 would help editors the most, _A_, or _B_?  Ideally their total number
 of contributions should be noted along with their pairwise preference
 so that it is possible to produce an unweighted ranking and rankings
 where the number of contributions is given greater weight.

 Then the resulting rankings should be submitted to the ED and Board to
 mull over as to what would be spreading work too thin, where various
 opportunities and roadblocks are for the top ranking preferences, etc.

 Step one, collect the data. Because of the nature of such a survey,
 most people can do that themselves. Ideally the Foundation would want
 to be at the forefront of collecting and publishing the underlying
 information.

 Best regards,
 James Salsman

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] general strategic goals

2014-05-10 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 3:02 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:

 There have been 64
 respondents from about nine people on three continents to
 http://www.allourideas.org/wmfcsdraft


I think it's important to point out that the survey you have created there
is without context.  That is, simply asking which of those things people
support *in a vacuum* is not informative.  It's also not the question at
hand.  What you intend to ask is which they would prefer *that the
Wikimedia Foundation*, an organization chartered for a particular goal,
adopt as action points.

Your survey is grossly misleading through the absence of context.

pb


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] general strategic goals

2014-05-10 Thread James Salsman
Philippe Beaudette wrote:

... asking which of those things people support
 *in a vacuum* [is] not the question at hand

That is true. A community survey leading to revision of strategic
goals should be asked of actual contributors, i.e., by selecting
editors from wikis' recent changes around the clock in proportion to
the volume of edits each hour, and asking them which do you think
would help editors the most, _A_, or _B_?  Ideally their total number
of contributions should be noted along with their pairwise preference
so that it is possible to produce an unweighted ranking and rankings
where the number of contributions is given greater weight.

Then the resulting rankings should be submitted to the ED and Board to
mull over as to what would be spreading work too thin, where various
opportunities and roadblocks are for the top ranking preferences, etc.

Step one, collect the data. Because of the nature of such a survey,
most people can do that themselves. Ideally the Foundation would want
to be at the forefront of collecting and publishing the underlying
information.

Best regards,
James Salsman

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[Wikimedia-l] general strategic goals

2014-05-05 Thread James Salsman
Regarding 
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2014-01-31#Strategy_discussion

The Board discussed how they will develop the process for the next
strategic plan. The Board would like the strategic planning process to
involve input from the community, but the exact process should be
flexible. Sue advised that the Board should design the process with
the next Executive Director. The Board reflected on the process for
designing the previous strategic plan, and questions, such as movement
roles, which should be addressed in the next plan. The Board agreed
that the next strategic plan need not be a five-year plan in the model
of the previous strategic plan, but agreed to settle on the plan's
form with the next Executive Director.

1. Does anyone contend that the general strategic goals created when
the volunteer corps was apparently growing exponentially are no longer
appropriate?

2. Is it appropriate to augment current strategic goals which would
allow including more content with goals designed to result in more
volunteer time for existing and potential volunteers?

3. Do the proposed policy additions listed at
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/2014-February/000395.html
cover a sufficient extent of such potential goals for additional volunteer time?

4. Is the fact that I proposed such a list the reason that I am now
unable to post to the advocacy_advisors list? If not, what is that
reason?

5. Is there a more appropriate way to involve the community in making
decisions about the Foundation's general strategic goals than offering
pairwise comparisons between random selections from a combined list to
active community members to produce a ranking for the ED and Board to
work from?

6. When creating such a ranking, should the preferences of volunteers
with many contributions be weighted more than those with fewer
contributions? Can this question be resolved by producing both
unweighted and weighted rankings for the ED and Board to discuss?

Sincerely,
James Salsman

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] general strategic goals

2014-05-05 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:46 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:

 Regarding
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2014-01-31#Strategy_discussion

 The Board discussed how they will develop the process for the next
 strategic plan. The Board would like the strategic planning process to
 involve input from the community, but the exact process should be
 flexible. Sue advised that the Board should design the process with
 the next Executive Director. The Board reflected on the process for
 designing the previous strategic plan, and questions, such as movement
 roles, which should be addressed in the next plan. The Board agreed
 that the next strategic plan need not be a five-year plan in the model
 of the previous strategic plan, but agreed to settle on the plan's
 form with the next Executive Director.

 1. Does anyone contend that the general strategic goals created when
 the volunteer corps was apparently growing exponentially are no longer
 appropriate?

 2. Is it appropriate to augment current strategic goals which would
 allow including more content with goals designed to result in more
 volunteer time for existing and potential volunteers?

 3. Do the proposed policy additions listed at

 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/2014-February/000395.html
 cover a sufficient extent of such potential goals for additional volunteer
 time?

 4. Is the fact that I proposed such a list the reason that I am now
 unable to post to the advocacy_advisors list? If not, what is that
 reason?

 5. Is there a more appropriate way to involve the community in making
 decisions about the Foundation's general strategic goals than offering
 pairwise comparisons between random selections from a combined list to
 active community members to produce a ranking for the ED and Board to
 work from?

 6. When creating such a ranking, should the preferences of volunteers
 with many contributions be weighted more than those with fewer
 contributions? Can this question be resolved by producing both
 unweighted and weighted rankings for the ED and Board to discuss?

 Sincerely,
 James Salsman

 



Not being the moderator I can't know for sure, but if I had to guess I'd
say the reason you are moderated on the advocacy list is because you
repeatedly (and I mean *repeatedly*) suggest the same actions on multiple
lists. There is only so long people will tolerate you grinding the same ax
before switching you off, and judging by the replies (and lack thereof) to
your posts... there is very little, if any, support for most of your
demands.
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