Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-23 Thread Isaac Olatunde
One of the objectives of the group is to "cooperate with and represent Wikimedia UK in Wales". This is not the same as "We legally represent Wikimedia UK in Wales". User groups does not legally represent the WMF and or any chapter. If a group claim they represent a chapter in a state or district,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread Jean-Philippe Béland
I agree with Kirill, from the WMF point of view, as long as the chapter is informed and endorsed the creation of a user group within its covered territory, the WMF did its due diligence. After that, it is the responsibility of the chapter to do its homework about the local legal framework before

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread
On 20 March 2018 at 15:36, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Fæ wrote: > >> On 20 March 2018 at 15:03, Kirill Lokshin >> wrote: >> > Descriptions of user group activities on Meta shouldn't be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Fæ wrote: > On 20 March 2018 at 15:03, Kirill Lokshin > wrote: > > Descriptions of user group activities on Meta shouldn't be interpreted as > > legal documents under UK law (or any other legal code, for that matter).

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread
On 20 March 2018 at 15:03, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Descriptions of user group activities on Meta shouldn't be interpreted as > legal documents under UK law (or any other legal code, for that matter). Hi Kirill, In the spirit of an open and transparent process, could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Descriptions of user group activities on Meta shouldn't be interpreted as legal documents under UK law (or any other legal code, for that matter). Any questions regarding potential legal implications for Wikimedia UK should, of course, be directed to the chapter itself. Regards, Kirill Lokshin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi Philip, The idea of local or regional user groups coexisting with a national chapter isn't a new one; in fact, it was one of the principal scenarios that was considered when the concept of user groups was first developed. There are many such user groups already in existence, including local

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread Gnangarra
Wikimedia Australia also be interested in clarity on scope and over lap with WMUK activities as well as the legalities and implications to WMUK tax and charity status. WMAU has its own semi autonomous groups in locations around Australia the implications on WMAU charity and tax status should one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread
Support the request that AffCom share their understanding of the scope and authority of the announced User Group. From the wording of "represent Wikimedia UK in Wales"[1], the UG is not independent of WMUK and consequently acts as a Chapter subsidiary. As far as I am aware, there is no other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-20 Thread Philip Kopetzky
Hi Kirill! It would be really helpful to outline these kind of decisions with arguments/deliberations that AffCom decided to follow, considering that this sets a precedence in the worldwide community. For example, UG Wales states that they "cooperate with and represent Wikimedia UK in Wales" -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

2018-03-11 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:32:34 -0400 Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized > Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru (Wikimedia Community User Group > Wales) [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The