Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-17 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > That'd be easy to solve were it not for the fact that - on enwp at least > - TOR has been (and is being) used almost exclusively for block evasion > and vandalism. > > Interestingly enough(?), our desire for transparency and pseudonymit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-17 Thread Risker
On 17 July 2013 10:06, David Cuenca wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Marc A. Pelletier > wrote: > > > That'd be easy to solve were it not for the fact that - on enwp at least > > - TOR has been (and is being) used almost exclusively for block evasion > > and vandalism. > > > > Interest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-17 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/13/2013 01:00 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > The very first entry on prism-break is TOR, which is blocked on > Wikimedia projects for editing, by explicit blocks and by the TorBlock > extension, which is enabled on all wikis, even Chinese Wikipedia. That'd be easy to solve were it not for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-12 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:07 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Would publicizing these free and open secure alternatives to commercial > applications known to be under surveillance -- https://prism-break.org/ -- > be sufficiently aligned with out values? Our values? ... Our practise. No. SSL is mandat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Luis Villa, 09/07/2013 21:41: I discussed this a bit yesterday in the talk page and will flesh that out more, but the specific concern (raised here, on the blog, and in the talk page) is that stopwatching is too US-focused. [...] Have WMNYC and WMDC considered supporting it? It's unclear to me

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-09 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:07 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Luis Villa wrote: > >... > > I'll probably post some more details on the talk page in the next > > day or two, but suffice to say that we continue to listen for options > > that are aligned with our values and likely to have an impact on > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Advocacy Advisors] WMF response to PRISM?

2013-07-08 Thread James Salsman
Luis Villa wrote: >... > I'll probably post some more details on the talk page in the next > day or two, but suffice to say that we continue to listen for options > that are aligned with our values and likely to have an impact on > the discussion. Luis, could you please help us understand the spec