Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
Hi Austin, Thanks for letting me know. I use PGP, but there's something wrong with my key right now. I'll look into it and get back to you. Thanks, Yana On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Yana Welinder y...@wikimedia.org wrote: I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible in all our work (including holding community consultations around all major legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are very limited situations where public discussions could actually hurt free access to Wikipedia. If you have thoughts about the evolving censorship landscape, feel free to email me directly, if possible via encrypted email. Would you mind clarifying which encryption method? S/MIME? PGP? I was actually going to reply, because what you said puzzled me, but this is the only PGP key I could find for you on the public keyservers: pub 4096R/FFF81E5E 2015-06-01 *** KEY REVOKED *** [not verified] Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Yana Welinder Senior Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. In other words, IANYL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Yana Welinder y...@wikimedia.org wrote: I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible in all our work (including holding community consultations around all major legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are very limited situations where public discussions could actually hurt free access to Wikipedia. If you have thoughts about the evolving censorship landscape, feel free to email me directly, if possible via encrypted email. Would you mind clarifying which encryption method? S/MIME? PGP? I was actually going to reply, because what you said puzzled me, but this is the only PGP key I could find for you on the public keyservers: pub 4096R/FFF81E5E 2015-06-01 *** KEY REVOKED *** [not verified] Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
But won't the people in Iran or China would be able to access the Wikimedia sites through http instead of https? And what about accessing through https within Wikipedia Zero? Is cost-free access available through https? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 June 2015 at 05:21, Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com wrote: China and Iran blocks https (and WMF thinks https is more secure than http when it can be EASILY blocked lol) China is currently blocking HTTP and has done so quite frequently. The ability to block is largely unrelated to security. so people in these countries used wikipedia on http, so some here think that these countries are spying on them by forcing them to use http, but that https block in this countries was NOT to target wikipedia, it was to target social networking sites and american based email sites like yahoo and gmail etc..but now by moving to HTTPS, we have now become a target for those countries..well done.. That doesn't make sense. HTTPs doesn't hide the domain. The country can still tell that someone is visiting wikipedia rather than say facebook. What becomes more difficult is telling what a person is viewing on wikipedia. and to add to that, people who used wikipedia in those countries to find the truth about whats happening in their country and other regions can no longer do so since its blocked..Well Done again WMF.. Well actually no they couldn't if they had a government with active blocking measures. With HTTP traffic governments and ISPs can (and did) block individual pages that they don't like. Someone has to be fired for this. That would seem to be something of an over reaction even if you disagree with the decision. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
Uh, I’m from a Third World country, and while I know the Internet here in the Philippines is shitty, I don’t think the WMF can be blamed for that. I’ve been using HTTPS for quite a while now and for the most part, it works normally. Let’s try to avoid overly generalizing the developing world here. However, I too would like to hear something from the WMF as to how they will deal with the situation in countries where HTTPS is actively being blocked. Josh Wiadomość napisana przez Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com w dniu 13 cze 2015, o godz. 06:34: Congrats, you just made internet shitty for all 3rd world countries and did you people even bother to find out how it will affect users in China or Iran where HTTPS is BANNED?. On 6/13/15, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: Great job. :) Thanks for informing [PS. to members, you may read the WP:VPT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#HTTPS_by_default discussion too] On 13 June 2015 at 03:05, Habib M'henni habib.mhe...@gmail.com wrote: This is really fantastic. Thanks, Habib Le 12 juin 2015 21:22:26 CET, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org a écrit : The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted to relevant Village Pumps (Technical). This post is available online here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS BY YANA WELINDER https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/ywelinder/, VICTORIA BARANETSKY https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/victoria-baranetsky/ AND BRANDON BLACK https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/brandon-black/ ON JUNE 12TH To be truly free, access to knowledge must be secure and uncensored. At the Wikimedia Foundation, we believe that you should be able to use Wikipedia and the Wikimedia sites without sacrificing privacy or safety. Today, we’re happy to announce that we are in the process of implementing HTTPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS to encrypt all Wikimedia traffic. We will also use HTTP Strict Transport Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security (HSTS) to protect against efforts to ‘break’ HTTPS and intercept traffic. With this change, the nearly half a billion people who rely on Wikipedia and its sister projects every month will be able to share in the world’s knowledge more securely. The HTTPS protocol creates an encrypted connection between your computer and Wikimedia sites to ensure the security and integrity of data you transmit. Encryption makes it more difficult for governments and other third parties to monitor your traffic. It also makes it harder for Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to censor access to specific Wikipedia articles and other information. HTTPS is not new to Wikimedia sites. Since 2011, we have been working on establishing the infrastructure and technical requirements, and understanding the policy and community implications of HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic, with the ultimate goal of making it available to all users. In fact, for the past four years https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/ , Wikimedia users could access our sites with HTTPS manually, through HTTPS Everywhere https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere, and when directed to our sites from major search engines. Additionally, all logged in users https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/28/https-default-logged-in-users-wikimedia-sites/ have been accessing via HTTPS since 2013. Over the last few years, increasing concerns about government surveillance prompted members of the Wikimedia community to push https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ for more broad protection through HTTPS. We agreed, and made this transition a priority for our policy and engineering teams. We believe encryption makes the web stronger for everyone. In a world where mass surveillance has become a serious threat to intellectual freedom, secure connections are essential for protecting users around the world. Without encryption, governments can more easily surveil sensitive information, creating a chilling effect, and deterring participation, or in extreme cases they can isolate or discipline citizens. Accounts may also be hijacked, pages may be censored, other security flaws could expose sensitive user information and communications. Because of these circumstances, we believe that the time for HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic is now. We encourage others to join us as we move forward with this commitment. The technical challenges of migrating to HTTPS HTTPS migration for one of the world’s most popular websites can be complicated. For us, this process
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
On 14 June 2015 at 05:21, Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com wrote: China and Iran blocks https (and WMF thinks https is more secure than http when it can be EASILY blocked lol) China is currently blocking HTTP and has done so quite frequently. The ability to block is largely unrelated to security. so people in these countries used wikipedia on http, so some here think that these countries are spying on them by forcing them to use http, but that https block in this countries was NOT to target wikipedia, it was to target social networking sites and american based email sites like yahoo and gmail etc..but now by moving to HTTPS, we have now become a target for those countries..well done.. That doesn't make sense. HTTPs doesn't hide the domain. The country can still tell that someone is visiting wikipedia rather than say facebook. What becomes more difficult is telling what a person is viewing on wikipedia. and to add to that, people who used wikipedia in those countries to find the truth about whats happening in their country and other regions can no longer do so since its blocked..Well Done again WMF.. Well actually no they couldn't if they had a government with active blocking measures. With HTTP traffic governments and ISPs can (and did) block individual pages that they don't like. Someone has to be fired for this. That would seem to be something of an over reaction even if you disagree with the decision. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hi all, Our understanding is that there is currently no country where only HTTPS access to Wikipedia is blocked. In Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Iran, the government appears to have been blocking select Wikipedia articles at different times.[1] The Great Firewall of China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#China has also been blocking select articles on Chinese and English Wikipedia.[2] While it previously blocked all HTTPS access to Chinese Wikipedia, that block has more recently been extended to HTTP access as well. The transition to HTTPS by default therefore shouldn't block anyone's access to all of Wikipedia due to censorship. Rather it should help prevent censorship of select Wikipedia articles, which we know is a problem in different parts of the world. I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible in all our work (including holding community consultations around all major legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are very limited situations where public discussions could actually hurt free access to Wikipedia. If you have thoughts about the evolving censorship landscape, feel free to email me directly, if possible via encrypted email. With respect to Wikipedia Zero, we have been working with mobile carriers for over a year to make sure that they are able to provide access free of data charges over HTTPS. For many carriers, this required them to adjust the technical implementation of how they waive data charges. We are now finally ready to transition Wikipedia Zero access to HTTPS by default. Best, Yana [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Iran [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#China On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.com wrote: But won't the people in Iran or China would be able to access the Wikimedia sites through http instead of https? And what about accessing through https within Wikipedia Zero? Is cost-free access available through https? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 June 2015 at 05:21, Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com wrote: China and Iran blocks https (and WMF thinks https is more secure than http when it can be EASILY blocked lol) China is currently blocking HTTP and has done so quite frequently. The ability to block is largely unrelated to security. so people in these countries used wikipedia on http, so some here think that these countries are spying on them by forcing them to use http, but that https block in this countries was NOT to target wikipedia, it was to target social networking sites and american based email sites like yahoo and gmail etc..but now by moving to HTTPS, we have now become a target for those countries..well done.. That doesn't make sense. HTTPs doesn't hide the domain. The country can still tell that someone is visiting wikipedia rather than say facebook. What becomes more difficult is telling what a person is viewing on wikipedia. and to add to that, people who used wikipedia in those countries to find the truth about whats happening in their country and other regions can no longer do so since its blocked..Well Done again WMF.. Well actually no they couldn't if they had a government with active blocking measures. With HTTP traffic governments and ISPs can (and did) block individual pages that they don't like. Someone has to be fired for this. That would seem to be something of an over reaction even if you disagree with the decision. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Yana Welinder Senior Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. In other words, IANYL
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
China and Iran blocks https (and WMF thinks https is more secure than http when it can be EASILY blocked lol) so people in these countries used wikipedia on http, so some here think that these countries are spying on them by forcing them to use http, but that https block in this countries was NOT to target wikipedia, it was to target social networking sites and american based email sites like yahoo and gmail etc..but now by moving to HTTPS, we have now become a target for those countries..well done..and to add to that, people who used wikipedia in those countries to find the truth about whats happening in their country and other regions can no longer do so since its blocked..Well Done again WMF..I asked a few devs on IRC and on the associated VP thread why this was done and the answer seems to be a simple way of saying To protect Americans ...didn't know Soviet USA was that badreally a pathetic move by WMF when this was previously discussed before and thrown out for the sam reasons I mentioned above.. Someone has to be fired for this. On 6/14/15, Vira Motorko vira.moto...@gmail.com wrote: Have I understood it correctly, that Wikipedia Zero traffic is free only while through http, and not https? -- *--* *Vira Motorko* PR manager, Wikimedia Ukraine https://ua.wikimedia.org/ +380667740499 Are you saving your documents in free formats? ;) Help save natural resources – please think twice before printing this e-mail or any attachments. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Cometstyles ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On 12 June 2015 at 22:08, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent news! So how are we dealing with the Iran and China issue? Well the introduction appears to have been timed for one of those periods where we are completely blocked in china anyway. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
Hi Juliet, Your blog post states this change could affect access for some Wikimedia traffic in certain parts of the world - which makes some alarm bells go off. Could you clarify in what kind of cases it would 'affect' and in what way? It's quite different whether a few dozen people have to wait for their connection a few ms longer, or whether whole countries are basically locked out because they can't (or won't) access through https. Also, it is unclear to me whether it is 'https by default but you can still access through https' or 'https or nothing'. The blogpost is not clear to me on this, but maybe I'm overlooking something, or not well versed enough in the concept. Hope you can clarify. Thanks! Lodewijk On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted to relevant Village Pumps (Technical). This post is available online here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS BY YANA WELINDER https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/ywelinder/, VICTORIA BARANETSKY https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/victoria-baranetsky/ AND BRANDON BLACK https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/brandon-black/ ON JUNE 12TH To be truly free, access to knowledge must be secure and uncensored. At the Wikimedia Foundation, we believe that you should be able to use Wikipedia and the Wikimedia sites without sacrificing privacy or safety. Today, we’re happy to announce that we are in the process of implementing HTTPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS to encrypt all Wikimedia traffic. We will also use HTTP Strict Transport Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security (HSTS) to protect against efforts to ‘break’ HTTPS and intercept traffic. With this change, the nearly half a billion people who rely on Wikipedia and its sister projects every month will be able to share in the world’s knowledge more securely. The HTTPS protocol creates an encrypted connection between your computer and Wikimedia sites to ensure the security and integrity of data you transmit. Encryption makes it more difficult for governments and other third parties to monitor your traffic. It also makes it harder for Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to censor access to specific Wikipedia articles and other information. HTTPS is not new to Wikimedia sites. Since 2011, we have been working on establishing the infrastructure and technical requirements, and understanding the policy and community implications of HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic, with the ultimate goal of making it available to all users. In fact, for the past four years https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/ , Wikimedia users could access our sites with HTTPS manually, through HTTPS Everywhere https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere, and when directed to our sites from major search engines. Additionally, all logged in users https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/28/https-default-logged-in-users-wikimedia-sites/ have been accessing via HTTPS since 2013. Over the last few years, increasing concerns about government surveillance prompted members of the Wikimedia community to push https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ for more broad protection through HTTPS. We agreed, and made this transition a priority for our policy and engineering teams. We believe encryption makes the web stronger for everyone. In a world where mass surveillance has become a serious threat to intellectual freedom, secure connections are essential for protecting users around the world. Without encryption, governments can more easily surveil sensitive information, creating a chilling effect, and deterring participation, or in extreme cases they can isolate or discipline citizens. Accounts may also be hijacked, pages may be censored, other security flaws could expose sensitive user information and communications. Because of these circumstances, we believe that the time for HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic is now. We encourage others to join us as we move forward with this commitment. The technical challenges of migrating to HTTPS HTTPS migration for one of the world’s most popular websites can be complicated. For us, this process began years ago and involved teams from across the Wikimedia Foundation. Our engineering team has been driving this transition, working hard to improve our sites’ HTTPS performance, prepare our infrastructure to handle the transition, and ultimately manage the implementation. Our first steps involved improving our infrastructure and code base so we could support HTTPS. We also significantly expanded and
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
Have I understood it correctly, that Wikipedia Zero traffic is free only while through http, and not https? -- *--* *Vira Motorko* PR manager, Wikimedia Ukraine https://ua.wikimedia.org/ +380667740499 Are you saving your documents in free formats? ;) Help save natural resources – please think twice before printing this e-mail or any attachments. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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This is really fantastic. Thanks, Habib Le 12 juin 2015 21:22:26 CET, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org a écrit : The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted to relevant Village Pumps (Technical). This post is available online here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS BY YANA WELINDER https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/ywelinder/, VICTORIA BARANETSKY https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/victoria-baranetsky/ AND BRANDON BLACK https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/brandon-black/ ON JUNE 12TH To be truly free, access to knowledge must be secure and uncensored. At the Wikimedia Foundation, we believe that you should be able to use Wikipedia and the Wikimedia sites without sacrificing privacy or safety. Today, we’re happy to announce that we are in the process of implementing HTTPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS to encrypt all Wikimedia traffic. We will also use HTTP Strict Transport Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security (HSTS) to protect against efforts to ‘break’ HTTPS and intercept traffic. With this change, the nearly half a billion people who rely on Wikipedia and its sister projects every month will be able to share in the world’s knowledge more securely. The HTTPS protocol creates an encrypted connection between your computer and Wikimedia sites to ensure the security and integrity of data you transmit. Encryption makes it more difficult for governments and other third parties to monitor your traffic. It also makes it harder for Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to censor access to specific Wikipedia articles and other information. HTTPS is not new to Wikimedia sites. Since 2011, we have been working on establishing the infrastructure and technical requirements, and understanding the policy and community implications of HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic, with the ultimate goal of making it available to all users. In fact, for the past four years https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/, Wikimedia users could access our sites with HTTPS manually, through HTTPS Everywhere https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere, and when directed to our sites from major search engines. Additionally, all logged in users https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/28/https-default-logged-in-users-wikimedia-sites/ have been accessing via HTTPS since 2013. Over the last few years, increasing concerns about government surveillance prompted members of the Wikimedia community to push https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ for more broad protection through HTTPS. We agreed, and made this transition a priority for our policy and engineering teams. We believe encryption makes the web stronger for everyone. In a world where mass surveillance has become a serious threat to intellectual freedom, secure connections are essential for protecting users around the world. Without encryption, governments can more easily surveil sensitive information, creating a chilling effect, and deterring participation, or in extreme cases they can isolate or discipline citizens. Accounts may also be hijacked, pages may be censored, other security flaws could expose sensitive user information and communications. Because of these circumstances, we believe that the time for HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic is now. We encourage others to join us as we move forward with this commitment. The technical challenges of migrating to HTTPS HTTPS migration for one of the world’s most popular websites can be complicated. For us, this process began years ago and involved teams from across the Wikimedia Foundation. Our engineering team has been driving this transition, working hard to improve our sites’ HTTPS performance, prepare our infrastructure to handle the transition, and ultimately manage the implementation. Our first steps involved improving our infrastructure and code base so we could support HTTPS. We also significantly expanded and updated our server hardware. Since we don’t employ third party content delivery systems, we had to manage this process for our entire infrastructure stack in-house. HTTPS may also have performance implications for users, particularly our many users accessing Wikimedia sites from countries or networks with poor technical infrastructure. We’ve been carefully calibrating our HTTPS configuration to minimize negative impacts related to latency, page load times, and user experience. This was an iterative process that relied on industry standards, a large amount of testing, and our own experience running the Wikimedia sites. Throughout this process, we have carefully considered how HTTPS affects all of our users. People around the world access
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Comets, I can answer that. From the dev who switched HTTPS on during prime usage times, complained about working 60+ hours this week, then left for the day. I get the impression that the WMF doesn't give a shit about those users who choose to opt-out of HTTPS for one reason or another. It's basically your now screwed, it works for us so figure it out without us. On Friday, June 12, 2015, Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats, you just made internet shitty for all 3rd world countries and did you people even bother to find out how it will affect users in China or Iran where HTTPS is BANNED?. On 6/13/15, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Great job. :) Thanks for informing [PS. to members, you may read the WP:VPT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#HTTPS_by_default discussion too] On 13 June 2015 at 03:05, Habib M'henni habib.mhe...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: This is really fantastic. Thanks, Habib Le 12 juin 2015 21:22:26 CET, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org javascript:; a écrit : The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted to relevant Village Pumps (Technical). This post is available online here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS BY YANA WELINDER https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/ywelinder/, VICTORIA BARANETSKY https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/victoria-baranetsky/ AND BRANDON BLACK https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/brandon-black/ ON JUNE 12TH To be truly free, access to knowledge must be secure and uncensored. At the Wikimedia Foundation, we believe that you should be able to use Wikipedia and the Wikimedia sites without sacrificing privacy or safety. Today, we’re happy to announce that we are in the process of implementing HTTPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS to encrypt all Wikimedia traffic. We will also use HTTP Strict Transport Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security (HSTS) to protect against efforts to ‘break’ HTTPS and intercept traffic. With this change, the nearly half a billion people who rely on Wikipedia and its sister projects every month will be able to share in the world’s knowledge more securely. The HTTPS protocol creates an encrypted connection between your computer and Wikimedia sites to ensure the security and integrity of data you transmit. Encryption makes it more difficult for governments and other third parties to monitor your traffic. It also makes it harder for Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to censor access to specific Wikipedia articles and other information. HTTPS is not new to Wikimedia sites. Since 2011, we have been working on establishing the infrastructure and technical requirements, and understanding the policy and community implications of HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic, with the ultimate goal of making it available to all users. In fact, for the past four years https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/ , Wikimedia users could access our sites with HTTPS manually, through HTTPS Everywhere https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere, and when directed to our sites from major search engines. Additionally, all logged in users https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/28/https-default-logged-in-users-wikimedia-sites/ have been accessing via HTTPS since 2013. Over the last few years, increasing concerns about government surveillance prompted members of the Wikimedia community to push https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ for more broad protection through HTTPS. We agreed, and made this transition a priority for our policy and engineering teams. We believe encryption makes the web stronger for everyone. In a world where mass surveillance has become a serious threat to intellectual freedom, secure connections are essential for protecting users around the world. Without encryption, governments can more easily surveil sensitive information, creating a chilling effect, and deterring participation, or in extreme cases they can isolate or discipline citizens. Accounts may also be hijacked, pages may be censored, other security flaws could expose sensitive user information and communications. Because of these circumstances, we believe that the time for HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic is now. We encourage others to join us as we move forward with this commitment. The technical challenges of migrating to HTTPS HTTPS migration for one of the world’s most popular websites can be
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This reminds me of the VE rollout debacle On Friday, June 12, 2015, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: Comets, I can answer that. From the dev who switched HTTPS on during prime usage times, complained about working 60+ hours this week, then left for the day. I get the impression that the WMF doesn't give a shit about those users who choose to opt-out of HTTPS for one reason or another. It's basically your now screwed, it works for us so figure it out without us. On Friday, June 12, 2015, Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cometsty...@gmail.com'); wrote: Congrats, you just made internet shitty for all 3rd world countries and did you people even bother to find out how it will affect users in China or Iran where HTTPS is BANNED?. On 6/13/15, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: Great job. :) Thanks for informing [PS. to members, you may read the WP:VPT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#HTTPS_by_default discussion too] On 13 June 2015 at 03:05, Habib M'henni habib.mhe...@gmail.com wrote: This is really fantastic. Thanks, Habib Le 12 juin 2015 21:22:26 CET, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org a écrit : The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted to relevant Village Pumps (Technical). This post is available online here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS BY YANA WELINDER https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/ywelinder/, VICTORIA BARANETSKY https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/victoria-baranetsky/ AND BRANDON BLACK https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/brandon-black/ ON JUNE 12TH To be truly free, access to knowledge must be secure and uncensored. At the Wikimedia Foundation, we believe that you should be able to use Wikipedia and the Wikimedia sites without sacrificing privacy or safety. Today, we’re happy to announce that we are in the process of implementing HTTPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS to encrypt all Wikimedia traffic. We will also use HTTP Strict Transport Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security (HSTS) to protect against efforts to ‘break’ HTTPS and intercept traffic. With this change, the nearly half a billion people who rely on Wikipedia and its sister projects every month will be able to share in the world’s knowledge more securely. The HTTPS protocol creates an encrypted connection between your computer and Wikimedia sites to ensure the security and integrity of data you transmit. Encryption makes it more difficult for governments and other third parties to monitor your traffic. It also makes it harder for Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to censor access to specific Wikipedia articles and other information. HTTPS is not new to Wikimedia sites. Since 2011, we have been working on establishing the infrastructure and technical requirements, and understanding the policy and community implications of HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic, with the ultimate goal of making it available to all users. In fact, for the past four years https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/ , Wikimedia users could access our sites with HTTPS manually, through HTTPS Everywhere https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere, and when directed to our sites from major search engines. Additionally, all logged in users https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/28/https-default-logged-in-users-wikimedia-sites/ have been accessing via HTTPS since 2013. Over the last few years, increasing concerns about government surveillance prompted members of the Wikimedia community to push https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ for more broad protection through HTTPS. We agreed, and made this transition a priority for our policy and engineering teams. We believe encryption makes the web stronger for everyone. In a world where mass surveillance has become a serious threat to intellectual freedom, secure connections are essential for protecting users around the world. Without encryption, governments can more easily surveil sensitive information, creating a chilling effect, and deterring participation, or in extreme cases they can isolate or discipline citizens. Accounts may also be hijacked, pages may be censored, other security flaws could expose sensitive user information and communications. Because of these circumstances, we believe that the time for HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic is now. We encourage others to join us as we move forward with this commitment.
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Great job. :) Thanks for informing [PS. to members, you may read the WP:VPT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#HTTPS_by_default discussion too] On 13 June 2015 at 03:05, Habib M'henni habib.mhe...@gmail.com wrote: This is really fantastic. Thanks, Habib Le 12 juin 2015 21:22:26 CET, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org a écrit : The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted to relevant Village Pumps (Technical). This post is available online here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS BY YANA WELINDER https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/ywelinder/, VICTORIA BARANETSKY https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/victoria-baranetsky/ AND BRANDON BLACK https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/brandon-black/ ON JUNE 12TH To be truly free, access to knowledge must be secure and uncensored. At the Wikimedia Foundation, we believe that you should be able to use Wikipedia and the Wikimedia sites without sacrificing privacy or safety. Today, we’re happy to announce that we are in the process of implementing HTTPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS to encrypt all Wikimedia traffic. We will also use HTTP Strict Transport Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security (HSTS) to protect against efforts to ‘break’ HTTPS and intercept traffic. With this change, the nearly half a billion people who rely on Wikipedia and its sister projects every month will be able to share in the world’s knowledge more securely. The HTTPS protocol creates an encrypted connection between your computer and Wikimedia sites to ensure the security and integrity of data you transmit. Encryption makes it more difficult for governments and other third parties to monitor your traffic. It also makes it harder for Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to censor access to specific Wikipedia articles and other information. HTTPS is not new to Wikimedia sites. Since 2011, we have been working on establishing the infrastructure and technical requirements, and understanding the policy and community implications of HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic, with the ultimate goal of making it available to all users. In fact, for the past four years https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/ , Wikimedia users could access our sites with HTTPS manually, through HTTPS Everywhere https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere, and when directed to our sites from major search engines. Additionally, all logged in users https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/28/https-default-logged-in-users-wikimedia-sites/ have been accessing via HTTPS since 2013. Over the last few years, increasing concerns about government surveillance prompted members of the Wikimedia community to push https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ for more broad protection through HTTPS. We agreed, and made this transition a priority for our policy and engineering teams. We believe encryption makes the web stronger for everyone. In a world where mass surveillance has become a serious threat to intellectual freedom, secure connections are essential for protecting users around the world. Without encryption, governments can more easily surveil sensitive information, creating a chilling effect, and deterring participation, or in extreme cases they can isolate or discipline citizens. Accounts may also be hijacked, pages may be censored, other security flaws could expose sensitive user information and communications. Because of these circumstances, we believe that the time for HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic is now. We encourage others to join us as we move forward with this commitment. The technical challenges of migrating to HTTPS HTTPS migration for one of the world’s most popular websites can be complicated. For us, this process began years ago and involved teams from across the Wikimedia Foundation. Our engineering team has been driving this transition, working hard to improve our sites’ HTTPS performance, prepare our infrastructure to handle the transition, and ultimately manage the implementation. Our first steps involved improving our infrastructure and code base so we could support HTTPS. We also significantly expanded and updated our server hardware. Since we don’t employ third party content delivery systems, we had to manage this process for our entire infrastructure stack in-house. HTTPS may also have performance implications for users, particularly our many users accessing Wikimedia sites from countries or networks with poor technical infrastructure. We’ve been carefully calibrating our
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Congrats, you just made internet shitty for all 3rd world countries and did you people even bother to find out how it will affect users in China or Iran where HTTPS is BANNED?. On 6/13/15, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: Great job. :) Thanks for informing [PS. to members, you may read the WP:VPT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#HTTPS_by_default discussion too] On 13 June 2015 at 03:05, Habib M'henni habib.mhe...@gmail.com wrote: This is really fantastic. Thanks, Habib Le 12 juin 2015 21:22:26 CET, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org a écrit : The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted to relevant Village Pumps (Technical). This post is available online here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS BY YANA WELINDER https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/ywelinder/, VICTORIA BARANETSKY https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/victoria-baranetsky/ AND BRANDON BLACK https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/brandon-black/ ON JUNE 12TH To be truly free, access to knowledge must be secure and uncensored. At the Wikimedia Foundation, we believe that you should be able to use Wikipedia and the Wikimedia sites without sacrificing privacy or safety. Today, we’re happy to announce that we are in the process of implementing HTTPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS to encrypt all Wikimedia traffic. We will also use HTTP Strict Transport Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security (HSTS) to protect against efforts to ‘break’ HTTPS and intercept traffic. With this change, the nearly half a billion people who rely on Wikipedia and its sister projects every month will be able to share in the world’s knowledge more securely. The HTTPS protocol creates an encrypted connection between your computer and Wikimedia sites to ensure the security and integrity of data you transmit. Encryption makes it more difficult for governments and other third parties to monitor your traffic. It also makes it harder for Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to censor access to specific Wikipedia articles and other information. HTTPS is not new to Wikimedia sites. Since 2011, we have been working on establishing the infrastructure and technical requirements, and understanding the policy and community implications of HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic, with the ultimate goal of making it available to all users. In fact, for the past four years https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/ , Wikimedia users could access our sites with HTTPS manually, through HTTPS Everywhere https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere, and when directed to our sites from major search engines. Additionally, all logged in users https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/28/https-default-logged-in-users-wikimedia-sites/ have been accessing via HTTPS since 2013. Over the last few years, increasing concerns about government surveillance prompted members of the Wikimedia community to push https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ for more broad protection through HTTPS. We agreed, and made this transition a priority for our policy and engineering teams. We believe encryption makes the web stronger for everyone. In a world where mass surveillance has become a serious threat to intellectual freedom, secure connections are essential for protecting users around the world. Without encryption, governments can more easily surveil sensitive information, creating a chilling effect, and deterring participation, or in extreme cases they can isolate or discipline citizens. Accounts may also be hijacked, pages may be censored, other security flaws could expose sensitive user information and communications. Because of these circumstances, we believe that the time for HTTPS for all Wikimedia traffic is now. We encourage others to join us as we move forward with this commitment. The technical challenges of migrating to HTTPS HTTPS migration for one of the world’s most popular websites can be complicated. For us, this process began years ago and involved teams from across the Wikimedia Foundation. Our engineering team has been driving this transition, working hard to improve our sites’ HTTPS performance, prepare our infrastructure to handle the transition, and ultimately manage the implementation. Our first steps involved improving our infrastructure and code base so we could support HTTPS. We also significantly expanded and updated our server hardware. Since we don’t employ third party content delivery systems, we had to manage this process for our entire infrastructure
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On 12 June 2015 at 21:22, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted to relevant Village Pumps (Technical). Excellent news! So how are we dealing with the Iran and China issue? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
