Re: [Wikimedia-l] An encyclopedia must be conservative (?)

2020-05-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello people, thanks for the reactions! I actually did not mean conservative in a strict political sense, and I am a big fan of Reagle's book. It seems to me that some people in the movement identify strongly with the (political) term "progressive", and, depending on their personal circumstances,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An encyclopedia must be conservative (?)

2020-05-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Most people in the world (or at least in the U.S.) use the terms "conservative" and "progressive" when talking about politics, and associate them with bundles of viewpoints on society, economics, religion, and so on. The political aspect is partly relevant to Wikipedia, too, but if we just take

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An encyclopedia must be conservative (?)

2020-05-27 Thread FRED BAUDER
Conservative in the sense that it contains significant information limited to that derived from reliable sources. Progressive, to the extent we can include information that is not that well sourced but is derived from traditional sources or personal experience. For example the Hopi creation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An encyclopedia must be conservative (?)

2020-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
In good encyclopedic tradition, a reference to that quote in context, is probably in order. Ziko, I suspect you got this quote from this 2010 chapter? https://reagle.org/joseph/2010/gfc/chapter-2.html If I look at this post, he talks about progressivism in the context of methodology and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An encyclopedia must be conservative (?)

2020-05-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Ziko, there is a long-standing problem of recentism. There are a lot of Wikipedia articles which are only based on new sources (though reliable) and not on serious academic literature. There are some which contain zero encyclopedic information because they basically only retell the news