Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015
Christopher, Aya, Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Excellent!! Great news! Felicitaciones a todos amigos de Wikimedia México! Best regards Rodrigo Padula Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil Education Program Coordinator - Brazil Ação Educativa 2014-04-21 14:27 GMT-03:00 Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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¡Felicitaciones a los hermanos mexicanos! – Patricio On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a matrix indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion? Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Christopher, Aya, Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Thanks for the information. I've updated https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids based on this information. I agree with Aya that a public posting of the scoring matrix would be great as well. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper -Original Message- From: Richard Symonds [mailto:richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk] Sent: 22 April 2014 10:33 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015 Christopher, Aya, Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's happened in previous years. I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public - and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being second-guessed by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference. Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do... However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes or omissions aren't repeated in future... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a matrix indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion? Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Christopher, Aya, Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's happened in previous years. I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public - and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being second-guessed by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference. Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do... However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes or omissions aren't repeated in future... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Maybe start by releasing the blank grid? Meta has judging criteria, but I don't see a grid. Does the jury bottom line the grid scores and then average them up? Maybe that final score by the jury as a whole could be released to the parties who submitted bids? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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@Richard I know that no public reports were released previously. But if it starts to be a habit, it will help elevate the transparency of the process. Concerning the grid the Judges real names can be anonymized to be Judge 1, Judge 2 and so on. As for the second guessing issue, I think it can appear in many forms whether the report was published or not. As for your example, isn't it the case for all contenders (especially if they are strong ones) in any selection mechanism (be it bidding, elections or any other form) ? And Richard thank you for all your efforts as a judge and taking the effort to reply on our concerns in this thread. Holding such responsibilities is a huge burden and makes the person vulnerable to critics, whether they are deserved or not. @Nathan Totally agree! This would be a great start. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's happened in previous years. I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public - and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being second-guessed by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference. Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do... However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes or omissions aren't repeated in future... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Maybe start by releasing the blank grid? Meta has judging criteria, but I don't see a grid. Does the jury bottom line the grid scores and then average them up? Maybe that final score by the jury as a whole could be released to the parties who submitted bids? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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I find it difficult to believe it would be that bad. Yes, it might causes some issues if it turned out that a bid won because it was the least worst and was actually still very unpopular with the jury. However, I think people understand that no bid is ever perfect and wouldn't expect every jury decision on who hosts Wikimania to be unanimous. At the very least there should be a written explanation on what the strengths of the winning bid were, and what the problems of those that didn't were. This has been done in past years and would help prevent mistakes being repeated. Also, since Wikimania is a public conference, I think those that attend it and support it deserve to know why and how it gets to be hosted in a particular place. As someone who has followed the bidding process over multiple years, I think it is fair to say that communication between the jury and the community during the bidding process has not been as good this year as in previous years. I believe improving this should be a priority for the next round of bidding for 2016. As a member of the Scholarship Committee, I note that the scholarships process was in the past criticized for just the same issue and that has now been rectified, and from my perspective doing so has improved community confidence in the process. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper -Original Message- From: Richard Symonds [mailto:richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk] Sent: 22 April 2014 18:02 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015 No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's happened in previous years. I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public - and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being second-guessed by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference. Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do... However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes or omissions aren't repeated in future... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a matrix indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion? Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Christopher, Aya, Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place
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Michael, thanks for the recommendations. We will add this information to the public information of the event. I think most popular overland ways to come to Mexico from the States are safe, but is more safe have this information direct from the Mexico Federal Government. Regards. 2014-04-22 13:23 GMT-05:00 Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk: I find it difficult to believe it would be that bad. Yes, it might causes some issues if it turned out that a bid won because it was the least worst and was actually still very unpopular with the jury. However, I think people understand that no bid is ever perfect and wouldn't expect every jury decision on who hosts Wikimania to be unanimous. At the very least there should be a written explanation on what the strengths of the winning bid were, and what the problems of those that didn't were. This has been done in past years and would help prevent mistakes being repeated. Also, since Wikimania is a public conference, I think those that attend it and support it deserve to know why and how it gets to be hosted in a particular place. As someone who has followed the bidding process over multiple years, I think it is fair to say that communication between the jury and the community during the bidding process has not been as good this year as in previous years. I believe improving this should be a priority for the next round of bidding for 2016. As a member of the Scholarship Committee, I note that the scholarships process was in the past criticized for just the same issue and that has now been rectified, and from my perspective doing so has improved community confidence in the process. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper -Original Message- From: Richard Symonds [mailto:richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk] Sent: 22 April 2014 18:02 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015 No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's happened in previous years. I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public - and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being second-guessed by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference. Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do... However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes or omissions aren't repeated in future... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a matrix indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion? Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Christopher, Aya, Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing
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Hi Steven! Thanks for your comments. I'm part of the WMMX bidding team and I happen to live in the Centro Historico area (only a few bus stops away from the venue). Even though it's anecdotal, I can say that *a good deal of my free time is spent in this zone and I've never experienced crime here*. I do take precautions, but they are nothing out of the ordinary (no flashing of valuables, hailing a cab after hours, avoiding dark alleys, etc.) I will not say crime doesn't exist: it's a real risk, strongly considered when making our bid. As Ivan said, we don't want to take chances and will have additional support from the authorities (Ivan is our superstar in this regard). We believe the venue is safe and we're sure our guests will enjoy their stay here. The zone is safe for (part of) our team to live there. That said, our team (myself included) are looking forward to your questions and comments. Rest assured we will do our best to make of this the best Wikimania experience for everyone. Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 23:46:30 -0500 From: Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015 Message-ID: capftejnfyqh5xxz-6j8gr23b4o1u9fyotz-kjlgah6yglfr...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks to all for your kindly regards and comments :) Steven, concerning to the public safety, our city are different from the known issues of the northern states of the country. In the link you quote for United States citizens are properly pointed for Mexico City: no advisory is in effect. Also, the Centro Historico area (the venue are in the north of this Downtown area) is safe for tourism. But we will have in addition the special support and coordination with the Mexico City authorities for more vigilance and a special operative for reduce any risk to the minimum in the venue and their perimeter. 2014-04-21 22:55 GMT-05:00 Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen. Not a small concern. But, I should point out, one that we've dealt with before. We had laptops stolen in Argentina, and physical safety concerns in Alexandria, as I recall. I say this not to put a panacea of oh, there there, it'll be fine in place, but to assure people that this is something that I know that Garfield and Elle, and the rest of the WMF team working on this will consider and keep in mind. :-) pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewikihttps://twitter.com/Philippewiki ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Congratulations Mexico! I can't wait to visit the amazing Mexico City :) And, a big thank you to all the bidders, everyone who commented and participated, and to the selection jury, steering committee, and Ellie. This is the first year in a long time that I haven't been involved in the Wikimania selection process, and I am very pleased to have passed the torch to such capable hands :) best, Phoebe On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! Great news! Enviado desde mi teléfono celular Disculpe la brevedad. El 21/04/2014 14:28, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org escribió: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Congrats! WMMX!! And thanks to all other teams who presented their proposals :-) Àlex Hinojo Amical Wikimedia 2014-04-21 19:29 GMT+02:00 Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com: ¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! Great news! Enviado desde mi teléfono celular Disculpe la brevedad. El 21/04/2014 14:28, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org escribió: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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¡Felicitaciones a mis amigos de Wikimedia México! Congrats Wikimedia Mexico =) On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Great that wmmx tales on such a tremendous effort for all! Congtatulations! Erlend Bjørtvedt WmNO Den mandag 21. april 2014 skrev Àlex Hinojo alexhin...@gmail.com følgende: Congrats! WMMX!! And thanks to all other teams who presented their proposals :-) Àlex Hinojo Amical Wikimedia 2014-04-21 19:29 GMT+02:00 Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.comjavascript:; : ¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! Great news! Enviado desde mi teléfono celular Disculpe la brevedad. El 21/04/2014 14:28, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org javascript:; escribió: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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El 21/04/2014 11:27, Ellie Young escribió: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe Congratulations! I am very happy for our fellow Wikimedians at Mexico. -- Allan Aguilar https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ralgis/Cypherpunk https://editandowikimedia.wordpress.com/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Congrats México! What a great job done! :) Hope to meet all your staff anf fellows asap! Any help needed from Argentina, just ask and will be handled fondly! Hugs! 2014-04-21 17:03 GMT-03:00 Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Anna Torres Adell Directora Ejecutiva *A.C Wikimedia Argentina* *Imprime este correo solo si es realmente necesario* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! :) On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Anna Torres a...@wikimedia.org.ar wrote: Congrats México! What a great job done! :) Hope to meet all your staff anf fellows asap! Any help needed from Argentina, just ask and will be handled fondly! Hugs! 2014-04-21 17:03 GMT-03:00 Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Anna Torres Adell Directora Ejecutiva *A.C Wikimedia Argentina* *Imprime este correo solo si es realmente necesario* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Pats Pena | Sr. Manager, Global Operations Wikimedia Foundation office +1 (415) 839 6885 x6764 cell: +1 (415) 816 3349 fax: +1 (415) 284 9511 pp...@wikimedia.org *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate. https://donate.wikimedia.org/* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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¡Viva México! Felicitaciones a todo el equipo detrás de la candidatura. Also, thanks to the Cape Town and Monastir team. I hope they will bid for next year! Osmar Valdebenito G. 2014-04-21 18:47 GMT-03:00 Patricia Pena pp...@wikimedia.org: ¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! :) On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Anna Torres a...@wikimedia.org.ar wrote: Congrats México! What a great job done! :) Hope to meet all your staff anf fellows asap! Any help needed from Argentina, just ask and will be handled fondly! Hugs! 2014-04-21 17:03 GMT-03:00 Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending. Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was disqualified. Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Anna Torres Adell Directora Ejecutiva *A.C Wikimedia Argentina* *Imprime este correo solo si es realmente necesario* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Pats Pena | Sr. Manager, Global Operations Wikimedia Foundation office +1 (415) 839 6885 x6764 cell: +1 (415) 816 3349 fax: +1 (415) 284 9511 pp...@wikimedia.org *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate. https://donate.wikimedia.org/* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Congrats to Wikimedia Mexico. :) I have only one concern about possibly attending a Mexico City Wikimania, which is safety. The bid on Meta sort of acknowledges this by saying Safety is like any big city, some areas are unsafe at night. I feel a bit like a dumb, xenophobic American bringing this up, but I have to be honest and say Mexico tends to have a reputation for violent crime.[1] Sources do seem to suggest Mexico City proper may be better,[2][3] but it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen. 1. http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/mexico-travel-warning.html 2. http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mexico/mexico-city/practical-information/health 3. http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g150800-s206/Mexico-City:Mexico:Health.And.Safety.html ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015
Congratulations to Mexican friends :) On Apr 22, 2014 7:09 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Congrats to Wikimedia Mexico. :) I have only one concern about possibly attending a Mexico City Wikimania, which is safety. The bid on Meta sort of acknowledges this by saying Safety is like any big city, some areas are unsafe at night. I feel a bit like a dumb, xenophobic American bringing this up, but I have to be honest and say Mexico tends to have a reputation for violent crime.[1] Sources do seem to suggest Mexico City proper may be better,[2][3] but it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen. 1. http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/mexico-travel-warning.html 2. http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mexico/mexico-city/practical-information/health 3. http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g150800-s206/Mexico-City:Mexico:Health.And.Safety.html ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen. Not a small concern. But, I should point out, one that we've dealt with before. We had laptops stolen in Argentina, and physical safety concerns in Alexandria, as I recall. I say this not to put a panacea of oh, there there, it'll be fine in place, but to assure people that this is something that I know that Garfield and Elle, and the rest of the WMF team working on this will consider and keep in mind. :-) pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewikihttps://twitter.com/Philippewiki ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015
Thanks to all for your kindly regards and comments :) Steven, concerning to the public safety, our city are different from the known issues of the northern states of the country. In the link you quote for United States citizens are properly pointed for Mexico City: no advisory is in effect. Also, the Centro Historico area (the venue are in the north of this Downtown area) is safe for tourism. But we will have in addition the special support and coordination with the Mexico City authorities for more vigilance and a special operative for reduce any risk to the minimum in the venue and their perimeter. 2014-04-21 22:55 GMT-05:00 Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen. Not a small concern. But, I should point out, one that we've dealt with before. We had laptops stolen in Argentina, and physical safety concerns in Alexandria, as I recall. I say this not to put a panacea of oh, there there, it'll be fine in place, but to assure people that this is something that I know that Garfield and Elle, and the rest of the WMF team working on this will consider and keep in mind. :-) pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewikihttps://twitter.com/Philippewiki ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Atentamente:Iván MartínezPresidenteWikimedia México A.C.wikimedia.mx http://wikimedia.mxImagina un mundo en donde cada persona del planeta pueda tener acceso libre a la suma total del conocimiento humano. Eso es lo que estamos haciendo http://es.wikipedia.org. * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015
Congratulation WMMX! On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.comwrote: On 4/21/2014 9:46 PM, Ivan Martínez wrote: Thanks to all for your kindly regards and comments :) Steven, concerning to the public safety, our city are different from the known issues of the northern states of the country. In this context, I think it's worth pointing out that one of the more likely scenarios for an incident involves attendees traveling to or from the conference. Wikimania regularly brings in people who, whether for cost reasons, side journeys, or out of enthusiasm for modes other than air travel, may not be flying directly in and out. If anyone chooses to travel overland, they would be well advised to take careful precautions as to safe routes and methods. I'm not sure how much assistance the Mexico City team can provide in that regard, but it would be good to identify resources that can help people plan their travels wisely. --Michael Snow ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipediahttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
