Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-06 Thread Nathan
I generally share Yair's reluctance to see the WMF engage in political activity outside the scope of the Wikimedia mission, but I'd like to express my support for the WMF taking action specifically in pursuit of maintaining the freedom to travel and work of its employees and volunteers engaged in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-06 Thread Michael Snow
On 2/6/2017 2:01 PM, Yair Rand wrote: I would still like confirmation of whether it was in fact an urgent situation, however. The legal posture of the case (temporary restraining order issued prior to hearing on a preliminary injunction) makes it urgent. In order to participate meaningfully in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-06 Thread Yair Rand
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Mike Godwin wrote: > Yair Rand writes: > > > I find it difficult to believe that this situation is so critical > > and urgent that an RfC in advance was impossible, so if it does fall > under > > that section, the policy was yet again

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-06 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Michelle Would you let us know how much of the donors' money will be spent on this legal brief, either directly or in the costs of staff time, please? It would also be of interest to know why you felt that the input of the WMF to this brief was essential given that there are 90 other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-06 Thread Mike Godwin
Yair Rand writes: > I find it difficult to believe that this situation is so critical > and urgent that an RfC in advance was impossible, so if it does fall under > that section, the policy was yet again violated. I don't find it difficult at all to believe time was of the essence, but, then,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-06 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi Yair, Yes board was informed in the process. Plus when situation started a few days ago, board expressed full support stepping up against that specific EO. Christophe HENNER Chair of the board of trustees chen...@wikimedia.org +33650664739 twitter *@schiste*skype

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-05 Thread Yair Rand
Would this action fall under "Collaborative advocacy" in the Foundation Policy and Political Association Guideline? The section refers to "collaborat[ing] with another organization to take action on a particular policy or political question". The example given is signing a petition by the EFF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Foundation's challenge to recent U.S. immigration executive order

2017-02-05 Thread Pete Forsyth
On 02/05/2017 10:10 PM, Michelle Paulson wrote: Dear All, We know that the Foundation’s prior statement[4] on this executive order has generated debate in the communities, on mailing lists and in other forums. Some disapprove, with concern that the Foundation has taken a political stance on