Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-22 Thread Strainu
2017-03-20 11:04 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk : > Hi Pine, > > it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change, > which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change, on > our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-21 Thread Pine W
Hi Chris, Thanks for the comments. Would you and Edward be willing to meet with me (and anyone else who might be interested, such as Lodewijk as well as someone from WMF Communications) to discuss the current situation and brainstorm ideas about how to improve it? We could set up a meeting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Chris "Jethro" Schilling
Hey Pine, Had to laugh a little bit about a consultation about consultations, but I understand the rationale for it. Your point is well taken that information management is important to think about when there is much going on. I think the community notification calendar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Pine W
survey link on talk page for logged in users, and a banner for IP > > users. > > > We get this anyway for fundraising. Before going full scale, test the > > > survey on a small group, to find out what is wrong with it, fix the > worst > > > problems, an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Lodewijk
ng with it, fix the worst > > problems, and be sure to allow comments and feedback. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > > Behalf Of Lodewijk > > Sent: Mon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread
comments and feedback. > Cheers, > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Lodewijk > Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
; Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Lodewijk > Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations > > Hi Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread
ts.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lodewijk Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations Hi Pine, it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change, which is why I'm asking the opposite question to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Peter Southwood
to allow comments and feedback. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lodewijk Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations Hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Peter Southwood
: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 8:40 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Chris Schilling Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Pine, it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change, which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change, on our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members that want to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Pine W
Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (: I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations and surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like that in the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a consultation or survey

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-20 Thread Pine W
Gergo, perhaps my point got lost since it was a tangent from the TCoC discussion. I was intending to address the topic of communication and information management in general. This topic came up during the course of the TCoC thread, and I was responding to that. Lodewijk was right to branch the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-19 Thread MZMcBride
Gergő Tisza wrote: >In any case, it seems a bit tendentious to raise this in the context of >the Code of the Coduct, which (as it has been told ad nauseam) was a >volunteer initiative, organized mostly with resources available to >volunteers. The subject-space and talk pages have literally

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-18 Thread Gergő Tisza
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Pine W wrote: > As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate > its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a > predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+ >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-18 Thread Pine W
As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+ notifications every month for separate consultations and surveys, with some of those being