subject:"Re\: \[Wikimedia\-l\] Community survey\: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-24 Thread Marc Miquel

Hi Gerard,

Yes, diversity is a lens you can apply to every area (content, people,
governance, etc.). I don't think it is more used for people than for
content (actually, I do research cultural diversity in content).

The question you posed on how the lack of diversity in content affects the
needs of the readers is an interesting one. It is quite in line with the
Strategic recommendation Prioritize Topics for Impact, which proposes to
study which topics have a more positive impact on society.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Prioritize_Topics_for_Impact

Best,
Marc Miquel

El dj., 23 de gen. 2020, 20:08, Gerard Meijssen 
va escriure:

> Hoi,
> The issue then is that diversity is seen as an issue with our collaborators
> and not so much as an issue of the needs of our audience.
>
> Having said that, has there every been done a study on how and where the
> lack of our diversity in our content exists and how it affects our
> audience?
> Thanks,
>GerardM
>
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 17:55, Marc Miquel  wrote:
>
> > Hi Gerard,
> >
> > I agree it is a good practice to try to find a definition. In my
> > understanding, diversity is the range of differences in a series of
> things,
> > people, cultural traits, etc. So, diversity applied to Wikimedia, it can
> be
> > understood as to how well the different profiles in society are engaged
> in
> > contributing to our projects, how the different governance structures
> allow
> > different profiles to access positions in decision-making, how the
> > communities capture all the different available knowledge in certain
> > geographical contexts, etc.
> >
> > Thanks for asking.
> > Best,
> > Marc
> > ᐧ
> >
> > Missatge de Gerard Meijssen  del dia dc., 22
> de
> > gen. 2020 a les 8:01:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > Ah yes, I can read.
> > >
> > > In my mind when conferences are held on a particular subject and it is
> > not
> > > clear what the subject is, "how can there be a solution or progress. It
> > > will be whatever people think it is and results will not be results,
> they
> > > are what happens anyway. Not knowing what your subject is is not SMART.
> > >
> > > So, again what is meant by diversity"?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 23:24, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <
> > > nwil...@wikimedia.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Gerard, you can read about the previous events (which include answers
> > > about
> > > > scope), at
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM Gerard Meijssen <
> > > > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli <
> valde...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, <
> > > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hoi,
> > > > > > > How do you define diversity?
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >  GerardM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby <
> > jhs...@wikimedia.no
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times
> > – I
> > > > > will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia
> > > > Diversity
> > > > > > > > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other
> > > regional
> > > > > > > > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future.
> > The
> > > > > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > > > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for
> > > > > discussing,
> > > > > > > > debating and generating recipes for change concerning
> diversity
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible
> conference
> > > > later
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to
> > the
> > > > > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > > > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting
> > the
> > > > > > > proposal,
> > > > > > > > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what
> > > > community
> > > > > > > > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard,
> > > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > > > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of
> > > diversity
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > take
> > > > > > > > part in the survey.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please take the survey here
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > > > > > >
> >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen

Hoi,
The issue then is that diversity is seen as an issue with our collaborators
and not so much as an issue of the needs of our audience.

Having said that, has there every been done a study on how and where the
lack of our diversity in our content exists and how it affects our audience?
Thanks,
   GerardM

On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 17:55, Marc Miquel  wrote:

> Hi Gerard,
>
> I agree it is a good practice to try to find a definition. In my
> understanding, diversity is the range of differences in a series of things,
> people, cultural traits, etc. So, diversity applied to Wikimedia, it can be
> understood as to how well the different profiles in society are engaged in
> contributing to our projects, how the different governance structures allow
> different profiles to access positions in decision-making, how the
> communities capture all the different available knowledge in certain
> geographical contexts, etc.
>
> Thanks for asking.
> Best,
> Marc
> ᐧ
>
> Missatge de Gerard Meijssen  del dia dc., 22 de
> gen. 2020 a les 8:01:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Ah yes, I can read.
> >
> > In my mind when conferences are held on a particular subject and it is
> not
> > clear what the subject is, "how can there be a solution or progress. It
> > will be whatever people think it is and results will not be results, they
> > are what happens anyway. Not knowing what your subject is is not SMART.
> >
> > So, again what is meant by diversity"?
> >
> > On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 23:24, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <
> > nwil...@wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Gerard, you can read about the previous events (which include answers
> > about
> > > scope), at
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM Gerard Meijssen <
> > > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli  >:
> > > >
> > > > > That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, <
> > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hoi,
> > > > > > How do you define diversity?
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >  GerardM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby <
> jhs...@wikimedia.no
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times
> – I
> > > > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia
> > > Diversity
> > > > > > > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other
> > regional
> > > > > > > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future.
> The
> > > > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for
> > > > discussing,
> > > > > > > debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference
> > > later
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to
> the
> > > > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting
> the
> > > > > > proposal,
> > > > > > > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what
> > > community
> > > > > > > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard,
> > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of
> > diversity
> > > > to
> > > > > > take
> > > > > > > part in the survey.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please take the survey here
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Participants*
> > > > > > > For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to
> invite
> > > > > > > participants who are decision-makers in the movement
> (volunteers,
> > > > board
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in
> > > projects
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an
> > > opportunity
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the
> > > 2030
> > > > > > > movement strategy
> > > > > > > <
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
> > > > >
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > knowledge equity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-23 Thread Marc Miquel

Hi Gerard,

I agree it is a good practice to try to find a definition. In my
understanding, diversity is the range of differences in a series of things,
people, cultural traits, etc. So, diversity applied to Wikimedia, it can be
understood as to how well the different profiles in society are engaged in
contributing to our projects, how the different governance structures allow
different profiles to access positions in decision-making, how the
communities capture all the different available knowledge in certain
geographical contexts, etc.

Thanks for asking.
Best,
Marc
ᐧ

Missatge de Gerard Meijssen  del dia dc., 22 de
gen. 2020 a les 8:01:

> Hoi,
> Ah yes, I can read.
>
> In my mind when conferences are held on a particular subject and it is not
> clear what the subject is, "how can there be a solution or progress. It
> will be whatever people think it is and results will not be results, they
> are what happens anyway. Not knowing what your subject is is not SMART.
>
> So, again what is meant by diversity"?
>
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 23:24, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <
> nwil...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Gerard, you can read about the previous events (which include answers
> about
> > scope), at
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM Gerard Meijssen <
> > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope
> > >
> > >
> > > Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli :
> > >
> > > > That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hoi,
> > > > > How do you define diversity?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >  GerardM
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I
> > > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia
> > Diversity
> > > > > > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other
> regional
> > > > > > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future. The
> > > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for
> > > discussing,
> > > > > > debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference
> > later
> > > > in
> > > > > > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to the
> > > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting the
> > > > > proposal,
> > > > > > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what
> > community
> > > > > > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard,
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > > > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of
> diversity
> > > to
> > > > > take
> > > > > > part in the survey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please take the survey here
> > > > > > <
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Participants*
> > > > > > For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to invite
> > > > > > participants who are decision-makers in the movement (volunteers,
> > > board
> > > > > or
> > > > > > staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in
> > projects
> > > > > about
> > > > > > knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an
> > opportunity
> > > > for
> > > > > > the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the
> > 2030
> > > > > > movement strategy
> > > > > > <
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
> > > >
> > > > on
> > > > > > knowledge equity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > *Jon Harald Søby*
> > > > > > Prosjektleder / Prosjektleiar / Prošeaktajođiheaddji / Project
> > > Manager
> > > > > > Wikimedia Norge / Wikimedia Noreg / Wikimedia Norga
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +47 977 67 510
> > > > > > jhs...@wikimedia.no
> > > > > > ___
> > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
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> > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > > > Unsubscribe:
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> > > > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-23 Thread Astrid Carlsen

Hi all,
Thanks for the comments and questions.
The community survey
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform>
is about defining the scope of a possible Wikimedia Diversity Conference
2020.

I think the scope of the 2017 Diversity conference is shared on this page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference_2017

I hope this helps!

Best,
Astrid Carlsen, Wikimedia Norge






tor. 23. jan. 2020 kl. 14:10 skrev Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>:

> Hi Nick,
> That is quite a lot to read to try to find where the scope is mentioned,
> could you be a bit more specific? I do not want to read all about three
> events in the hope of finding where the scope is defined. It was not
> obvious in the places that I looked.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
> Sent: 22 January 2020 00:24
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity
> Conference 2020
>
> Gerard, you can read about the previous events (which include answers about
> scope), at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope
> >
> >
> > Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli :
> >
> > > That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?
> > >
> > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen,  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > How do you define diversity?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >  GerardM
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I
> > will
> > > be
> > > > > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia
> Diversity
> > > > > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other regional
> > > > > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future. The
> > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for
> > discussing,
> > > > > debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity in
> > the
> > > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference
> later
> > > in
> > > > > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to the
> > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting the
> > > > proposal,
> > > > > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what
> community
> > > > > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard,
> > Wikimedia
> > > > > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of diversity
> > to
> > > > take
> > > > > part in the survey.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please take the survey here
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > > >
> > > > > or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > >
> > > > > *Participants*
> > > > > For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to invite
> > > > > participants who are decision-makers in the movement (volunteers,
> > board
> > > > or
> > > > > staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in
> projects
> > > > about
> > > > > knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an
> opportunity
> > > for
> > > > > the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the
> 2030
> > > > > movement strategy
> > > > > <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-23 Thread Peter Southwood

Hi Nick, 
That is quite a lot to read to try to find where the scope is mentioned, could 
you be a bit more specific? I do not want to read all about three events in the 
hope of finding where the scope is defined. It was not obvious in the places 
that I looked.
Cheers,
Peter

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Sent: 22 January 2020 00:24
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

Gerard, you can read about the previous events (which include answers about
scope), at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference



On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope
>
>
> Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli :
>
> > That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > How do you define diversity?
> > > Thanks,
> > >  GerardM
> > >
> > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I
> will
> > be
> > > > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> > > >
> > > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia Diversity
> > > > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other regional
> > > > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future. The
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for
> discussing,
> > > > debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity in
> the
> > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > >
> > > > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference later
> > in
> > > > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to the
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting the
> > > proposal,
> > > > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what community
> > > > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard,
> Wikimedia
> > > > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of diversity
> to
> > > take
> > > > part in the survey.
> > > >
> > > > Please take the survey here
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > >
> > > > or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > >
> > > > *Participants*
> > > > For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to invite
> > > > participants who are decision-makers in the movement (volunteers,
> board
> > > or
> > > > staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in projects
> > > about
> > > > knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an opportunity
> > for
> > > > the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the 2030
> > > > movement strategy
> > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
> >
> > on
> > > > knowledge equity.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > *Jon Harald Søby*
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> Manager
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen

Hoi,
Ah yes, I can read.

In my mind when conferences are held on a particular subject and it is not
clear what the subject is, "how can there be a solution or progress. It
will be whatever people think it is and results will not be results, they
are what happens anyway. Not knowing what your subject is is not SMART.

So, again what is meant by diversity"?

On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 23:24, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
wrote:

> Gerard, you can read about the previous events (which include answers about
> scope), at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope
> >
> >
> > Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli :
> >
> > > That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?
> > >
> > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen,  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > How do you define diversity?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >  GerardM
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I
> > will
> > > be
> > > > > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia
> Diversity
> > > > > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other regional
> > > > > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future. The
> > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for
> > discussing,
> > > > > debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity in
> > the
> > > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference
> later
> > > in
> > > > > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to the
> > > > Wikimedia
> > > > > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting the
> > > > proposal,
> > > > > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what
> community
> > > > > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard,
> > Wikimedia
> > > > > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of diversity
> > to
> > > > take
> > > > > part in the survey.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please take the survey here
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > > >
> > > > > or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > >
> > > > > *Participants*
> > > > > For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to invite
> > > > > participants who are decision-makers in the movement (volunteers,
> > board
> > > > or
> > > > > staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in
> projects
> > > > about
> > > > > knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an
> opportunity
> > > for
> > > > > the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the
> 2030
> > > > > movement strategy
> > > > > <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
> > >
> > > on
> > > > > knowledge equity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > *Jon Harald Søby*
> > > > > Prosjektleder / Prosjektleiar / Prošeaktajođiheaddji / Project
> > Manager
> > > > > Wikimedia Norge / Wikimedia Noreg / Wikimedia Norga
> > > > >
> > > > > +47 977 67 510
> > > > > jhs...@wikimedia.no
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-21 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)

Gerard, you can read about the previous events (which include answers about
scope), at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference



On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope
>
>
> Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli :
>
> > That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > How do you define diversity?
> > > Thanks,
> > >  GerardM
> > >
> > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I
> will
> > be
> > > > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> > > >
> > > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia Diversity
> > > > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other regional
> > > > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future. The
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for
> discussing,
> > > > debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity in
> the
> > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > >
> > > > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference later
> > in
> > > > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to the
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting the
> > > proposal,
> > > > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what community
> > > > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard,
> Wikimedia
> > > > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of diversity
> to
> > > take
> > > > part in the survey.
> > > >
> > > > Please take the survey here
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > > >
> > > > or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > >
> > > > *Participants*
> > > > For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to invite
> > > > participants who are decision-makers in the movement (volunteers,
> board
> > > or
> > > > staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in projects
> > > about
> > > > knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an opportunity
> > for
> > > > the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the 2030
> > > > movement strategy
> > > >  >
> > on
> > > > knowledge equity.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > *Jon Harald Søby*
> > > > Prosjektleder / Prosjektleiar / Prošeaktajođiheaddji / Project
> Manager
> > > > Wikimedia Norge / Wikimedia Noreg / Wikimedia Norga
> > > >
> > > > +47 977 67 510
> > > > jhs...@wikimedia.no
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen

I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope


Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli :

> That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?
>
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, 
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > How do you define diversity?
> > Thanks,
> >  GerardM
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I will
> be
> > > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> > >
> > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia Diversity
> > > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other regional
> > > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future. The
> > Wikimedia
> > > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for discussing,
> > > debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity in the
> > > Wikimedia movement.
> > >
> > > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference later
> in
> > > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to the
> > Wikimedia
> > > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting the
> > proposal,
> > > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what community
> > > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard, Wikimedia
> > > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of diversity to
> > take
> > > part in the survey.
> > >
> > > Please take the survey here
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > > >
> > > or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > >
> > > *Participants*
> > > For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to invite
> > > participants who are decision-makers in the movement (volunteers, board
> > or
> > > staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in projects
> > about
> > > knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an opportunity
> for
> > > the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the 2030
> > > movement strategy
> > > 
> on
> > > knowledge equity.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > *Jon Harald Søby*
> > > Prosjektleder / Prosjektleiar / Prošeaktajođiheaddji / Project Manager
> > > Wikimedia Norge / Wikimedia Noreg / Wikimedia Norga
> > >
> > > +47 977 67 510
> > > jhs...@wikimedia.no
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-20 Thread Ilario Valdelli

That can be an output of the conference. Is not it?

On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> How do you define diversity?
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby  wrote:
>
> > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I will be
> > posting it to multiple mailing lists.
> >
> > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia Diversity
> > Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other regional
> > conferences on the same topic being held in the near future. The
> Wikimedia
> > Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for discussing,
> > debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity in the
> > Wikimedia movement.
> >
> > We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference later in
> > 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to the
> Wikimedia
> > Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting the
> proposal,
> > a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what community
> > members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard, Wikimedia
> > Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of diversity to
> take
> > part in the survey.
> >
> > Please take the survey here
> > <
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> > >
> > or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> >
> > *Participants*
> > For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to invite
> > participants who are decision-makers in the movement (volunteers, board
> or
> > staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in projects
> about
> > knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an opportunity for
> > the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the 2030
> > movement strategy
> >  on
> > knowledge equity.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > *Jon Harald Søby*
> > Prosjektleder / Prosjektleiar / Prošeaktajođiheaddji / Project Manager
> > Wikimedia Norge / Wikimedia Noreg / Wikimedia Norga
> >
> > +47 977 67 510
> > jhs...@wikimedia.no
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen

Hoi,
How do you define diversity?
Thanks,
 GerardM

On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby  wrote:

> Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I will be
> posting it to multiple mailing lists.
>
> Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia Diversity
> Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other regional
> conferences on the same topic being held in the near future. The Wikimedia
> Diversity Conference 2020 will provide a meeting place for discussing,
> debating and generating recipes for change concerning diversity in the
> Wikimedia movement.
>
> We will be sharing more updates regarding a possible conference later in
> 2020. For now, we are working on drafting a grant proposal to the Wikimedia
> Foundation to support the conference. As part of the drafting the proposal,
> a Community Engagement Survey is crucial to understand what community
> members are expecting out of such conference. In that regard, Wikimedia
> Norge invite all those who are interested in the topic of diversity to take
> part in the survey.
>
> Please take the survey here
> <
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
> >
> or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser:
>
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEaXc2AIaaFgKiQUWCDdnJKLd26KA8_DDQsyAqemXsH-wRyw/viewform
>
> *Participants*
> For a Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020 we would like to invite
> participants who are decision-makers in the movement (volunteers, board or
> staff members of a Wikimedia affiliate) or highly engaged in projects about
> knowledge equity and diversity. The conference will be an opportunity for
> the participants to discuss solutions for implementation of the 2030
> movement strategy
>  on
> knowledge equity.
>
> Best regards,
> *Jon Harald Søby*
> Prosjektleder / Prosjektleiar / Prošeaktajođiheaddji / Project Manager
> Wikimedia Norge / Wikimedia Noreg / Wikimedia Norga
>
> +47 977 67 510
> jhs...@wikimedia.no
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