Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2018-01-29 Thread The Cunctator
Thanks. I've added entries for Google Knowledge Graph and various Google derivative products, which have varying quality of attribution and license information and license. None appear to be fully compliant. On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Editors used

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2018-01-29 Thread Samuel Klein
Editors used to do plenty by hand, if you recall. The on-wiki list of mirrors and forks had compliance info, and individuals would reach out and ask for license changes or takedowns. Since having a legal team I don't know how these have happened, or which individuals have made such claims &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2018-01-29 Thread The Cunctator
Related, has there ever been any copyright enforcement for Wikipedia, or is its copyleft a joke and it's functionally purely public domain? On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 7:42 AM, Renée Bagslint wrote: > Does the Foundation have any standing to enforce the copyright, since

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2018-01-29 Thread Renée Bagslint
Does the Foundation have any standing to enforce the copyright, since that belongs to the individual contributors? On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 12:12 AM, James Salsman wrote: > Attribution is often considered impractical, but providing the source > date along with e.g. the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2018-01-28 Thread Jonathan Cardy
a court case a year should be easily affordable for the WMF and an excellent investment. Regards Jonathan > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:12:43 + > From: James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2018-01-27 Thread James Salsman
Attribution is often considered impractical, but providing the source date along with e.g. the article name can be used to derive the attribution, so it should be required. It's not just a good idea to require this information from content re-users like Amazon, Apple, and Google, but doing so will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2018-01-27 Thread The Cunctator
The copyright requirement isn't attribution; it's attribution and copyleft retention for derived works. On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:28 AM, James Heilman wrote: > It search result only contains a snippet (and thus is fair use). Plus > Google provide attribution in a lot of their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2017-06-07 Thread Strainu
2017-06-05 19:32 GMT+03:00 The Cunctator : > I've been a bit out of the loop on this for a while, so please be kind to > the oldbie - what's current Wikimedia policy on adaptive reuse of Wikipedia > content into non-free publications? > > E.g. Graphiq >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2017-06-05 Thread James Heilman
It search result only contains a snippet (and thus is fair use). Plus Google provide attribution in a lot of their results. J On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:03 PM, geni wrote: > On 5 June 2017 at 18:32, The Cunctator wrote: > > Both Google and Graphiq are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2017-06-05 Thread geni
On 5 June 2017 at 18:32, The Cunctator wrote: > Both Google and Graphiq are using pretty much the entire Wikipedia corpus > for their results. However due to the way their output is structured it falls under "you can't copyright facts". -- geni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2017-06-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Yes, probably and in the process they do exactly what we aim to achieve; share in the sum of all knowledge. What they do not do is claim copyright. They are the number one referral site for our traffic. You may be right in a narrow sense but it will ill serve us to do something about it.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2017-06-05 Thread The Cunctator
Both Google and Graphiq are using pretty much the entire Wikipedia corpus for their results. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:40 PM, James Heilman wrote: > Well "fair use" applies, but if the amount of content used goes beyond fair > use than it needs to be indicated that the content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

2017-06-05 Thread James Heilman
Well "fair use" applies, but if the amount of content used goes beyond fair use than it needs to be indicated that the content is under an open license. J On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM, The Cunctator wrote: > I've been a bit out of the loop on this for a while, so please