Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-20 Thread Joseph Seddon
Apologies if my response seemed to infer something I did not intend it to. I was referring to the strategic direction which provides high level goals for the movement as a whole developed by people from across the movement. Measureable contributions in working towards those goals, comes down to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-20 Thread
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 19:24, Joseph Seddon wrote: > ... but the > movement has set itself some pretty significant goals for the next 10 > years. Could you provide a link to where the movement, presumably not the report published in February 2018 that was written by the "Foundation’s staff and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-20 Thread Joseph Seddon
I know the history of our content and I know the slip ups that have been made along the way but the team take this seriously. Our internal review processes have significantly improved over the years and for this fundraiser it's definitely been our most rigorous yet and I think it's proven to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-20 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Benjamin, Your dad is right, in some regards. More than 85% of our revenue comes from the general public. It's how we've survived and has supported our growth over the last decade. We have conducted surveys, focus groups and user testing over the years to get better insights into our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-20 Thread Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l
I've sent in multiple emails about this issue already, the last one about a week ago. I was given a response within a few hours; a boilerplate explaining why one might be seeing banners after they had donated, and explaining my options on how to hide them. I had not donated, and I did not mention

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-19 Thread MZMcBride
Samuel Klein wrote: >[Some banners are so delightful that they are a welcome improvement to a >page without; and I've occasionally thought we should run some of those, >w/ low probability, continuously year-round.] Which banners are delightful? The ones I've seen this year take up two pages of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-18 Thread effe iets anders
Yeah, I've been getting this feedback each year for at least the past years too. I am pretty sure that most of the people who were alarmed and told me, did not thoroughly read the message, but mostly picked up on cues. It may be that I have more of such people in my circle of acquaintances than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-18 Thread Samuel Klein
I think the current messages are quite good and clear, the ones I've seen get better each year. I don't find the messaging alarmist or misleading. But perhaps subtle cues can change how they are perceived. [I also don't usually get this feedback from people outside our community (last: in 2012),

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-18 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
This discussion comes back every year. Every year we get the same reassurance that it's being looked into, that we'll try to do better, that things have been tested, etc. The reality of the matter is that the alarmist and misleading stuff *works*. And that it's most probably not going anywhere.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-18 Thread Samuel Klein
I've heard this asked this by 3-4 people recently * A family member (checking in to make sure things were ok) * A local grantmaker (who likewise has supported WP at least once before) * A couple undergrads (on phones, asking eachother what to do if WP went down during finals) All worried either

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-18 Thread
Sadly I had a similar experience only this weekend. We were enjoying a going away lunch with friends who are out of the country over Christmas, when one of them asked about Wikipedia's problems, knowing that I often volunteer time to it. He claimed that the site was spamming screen-sized pop-up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-18 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Benjamin! Just wanted to acknowledge your email and let you know I'll respond in full as soon as possible. Many Thanks Seddon On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 8:27 PM Benjamin Ikuta wrote: > > > My dad recently said to me: > > "I was solitated by them after looking something up. I thought it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donating to Wikipedia

2019-12-18 Thread Jacob Jose
I also felt like how Benjamin's dad did.. If one is viewing using the mobile app, the red banners fill the entire screen and one has to scroll down to get to the content. I think the fund solicitation ads need to be much less loud than it's now.. Background: I have been an active Wiki