Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
ImperfectlyInformed, 26/06/2014 02:14: I'm surprised no one seems to have mentioned that Part I, question 6 of the Form 990 which asks for total volunteers. For year 2011, 85,000 was the number year 2010 has 100,000. That's just the number of editors taken from WikiStats, as I believe the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-25 Thread ImperfectlyInformed
Samuel Klein meta.sj@... writes: I think a better formulation of the question might be: do we have a list of non-editing activities, and do we have a count of the number of people who do them regularly? To which the answer is partially-yes, and mostly-no. Yes: There is a mindmap of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-22 Thread Richard Ames
@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have Hi Richard, Just wondering: why are editors not volunteers? best, ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Wikimedia volunteers are self-organised, why would there be a list? Richard Ames, 22/06/2014 13:12: volunteer positions which work for I smell a contradiction. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-22 Thread Benjamin Lees
There's no master list that I know of, but there are lists of each of those things: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/System_administrators#List https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Accounts https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room#Official_chapters

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-22 Thread Alice Wiegand
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Benjamin Lees emufarm...@gmail.com wrote: Many of the people on those lists are not volunteers. How's your definition of volunteers? Alice. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-22 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Alice Wiegand me.ly...@gmail.com wrote: How's your definition of volunteers? In this case, I just mean that some of the people on those lists are paid employees of the WMF or a chapter, so I can't guarantee that everyone on a list of volunteers is acting in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-22 Thread Johan J├Ânsson
2014-06-22 13:59 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Wikimedia volunteers are self-organised, why would there be a list? Because we love making lists. That being said, Richard list wiki-specific positions like ArbCom, which I suppose would mean that volunteers for the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-22 Thread Samuel Klein
I think a better formulation of the question might be: do we have a list of non-editing activities, and do we have a count of the number of people who do them regularly? To which the answer is partially-yes, and mostly-no. Yes: There is a mindmap of activities and roles that was created and is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-22 Thread Lodewijk
In that case, 'many people are not volunteers' is probably an overstatement :) At least for AffCom, FDC, OTRS are almost fully employees. The list of chapter people is much longer (boards alone: ~40 * 6 est. average = 240 people, all volunteers) than the list of press contacts. In Wiki Loves