Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[James Forrester]

On Saturday, November 16, 2013, Charles Andrès wrote:

> I don’t remember if I answered you James, but you’re totally right the
> problem was the browser, now we invite people to use only chrome or Firefix
> and we had no problem.


Thanks, Charles. Obviously it's a priority to support other browsers too to
avoid this in future.

J.

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>
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> Le 15 oct. 2013 à 20:32, James Forrester 
> >
> a écrit :
>
> > On 15 October 2013 00:58, Charles Andres 
> > 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we
> have
> >> the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor
> >> activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
> >>
> >
> > ​Charles,
> >
> > ​Is this because of the browser they are using, the wiki they are trying
> to
> > edit on, or specific to their account? Which wiki are you talking about
> > this happening on?
> >
> > There was a configuration that we used in June for just over a week to
> A/B
> > test VisualEditor, but that code is no longer around, so this should not
> be
> > happening.
> >
> > However, users of Internet Explorer and some marginal or old browsers
> > cannot use VisualEditor yet as we have not been able to get it to work
> > there, which may explain the issue?
> >
> > Yours,
> > --
> > James D. Forrester
> > Product Manager, VisualEditor
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[Charles Andrès]

I don’t remember if I answered you James, but you’re totally right the problem 
was the browser, now we invite people to use only chrome or Firefix and we had 
no problem.

cheers

Charles

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Le 15 oct. 2013 à 20:32, James Forrester  a écrit :

> On 15 October 2013 00:58, Charles Andres wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we have
>> the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor
>> activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
>> 
> 
> ​Charles,
> 
> ​Is this because of the browser they are using, the wiki they are trying to
> edit on, or specific to their account? Which wiki are you talking about
> this happening on?
> 
> There was a configuration that we used in June for just over a week to A/B
> test VisualEditor, but that code is no longer around, so this should not be
> happening.
> 
> However, users of Internet Explorer and some marginal or old browsers
> cannot use VisualEditor yet as we have not been able to get it to work
> there, which may explain the issue?
> 
> Yours,
> -- 
> James D. Forrester
> Product Manager, VisualEditor
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[Charles Andrès]

Hello James,

The lesson was on the french wikipedia. I was thinking that it was account 
specific because the first time half of the new accounts had no VE, it looks 
like a random issue, but yesterday it was only one for 9 account created.

Actually I haven't check the browser used, as they all use the same type of 
computer, I've done the assumption that it wasn't hardware or software 
dependent. Bbut now that you mention that, I remember that the students were 
using chrome, firefox and explorer, next tuesday I will take care that they all 
use chrome or firefox.

Thanks


Charles

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Le 15 oct. 2013 à 20:32, James Forrester  a écrit :

> On 15 October 2013 00:58, Charles Andres wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we have
>> the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor
>> activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
>> 
> 
> ​Charles,
> 
> ​Is this because of the browser they are using, the wiki they are trying to
> edit on, or specific to their account? Which wiki are you talking about
> this happening on?
> 
> There was a configuration that we used in June for just over a week to A/B
> test VisualEditor, but that code is no longer around, so this should not be
> happening.
> 
> However, users of Internet Explorer and some marginal or old browsers
> cannot use VisualEditor yet as we have not been able to get it to work
> there, which may explain the issue?
> 
> Yours,
> -- 
> James D. Forrester
> Product Manager, VisualEditor
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[James Forrester]

On 15 October 2013 00:58, Charles Andres wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we have
> the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor
> activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
>

​Charles,

​Is this because of the browser they are using, the wiki they are trying to
edit on, or specific to their account? Which wiki are you talking about
this happening on?

There was a configuration that we used in June for just over a week to A/B
test VisualEditor, but that code is no longer around, so this should not be
happening.

However, users of Internet Explorer and some marginal or old browsers
cannot use VisualEditor yet as we have not been able to get it to work
there, which may explain the issue?

Yours,
-- 
James D. Forrester
Product Manager, VisualEditor
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[K. Peachey]

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Jon Davies wrote:

> Thanks, but newbies shouldn't have to do all that - it should sit there as
> an option.


The same can be argued for the many other features that can be found in
your preferences.

No reason to see that as a downside, but a chance to cover that in the
intro training explaining that many features and additional options can be
found under your preferences and for example we will enable Visual Editor.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[Jon Davies]

Thanks, but newbies shouldn't have to do all that - it should sit there as
an option.


On 15 October 2013 09:34, K. Peachey  wrote:

> Under Preferences > Editing > "Enable VisualEditor (only in the
> main
>  and user 
>  namespaces)"
>
> will do it iirc.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Jon Davies  >wrote:
>
> > Yes a problem I have encountered too and very annoying. Newbies really
> > appreciate it.
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > On 15 October 2013 08:58, Charles Andres  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we
> have
> > > the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor
> > > activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
> > >
> > > Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a
> specific
> > > user?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[K. Peachey]

Under Preferences > Editing > "Enable VisualEditor (only in the
main
 and user 
 namespaces)"

will do it iirc.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Jon Davies wrote:

> Yes a problem I have encountered too and very annoying. Newbies really
> appreciate it.
> Jon
>
>
> On 15 October 2013 08:58, Charles Andres  >wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we have
> > the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor
> > activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
> >
> > Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a specific
> > user?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Charles
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[Jon Davies]

Yes a problem I have encountered too and very annoying. Newbies really
appreciate it.
Jon


On 15 October 2013 08:58, Charles Andres wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we have
> the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor
> activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
>
> Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a specific
> user?
>
> Thanks
>
> Charles
>
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