Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Milos Rancic
Wikimedia is in the position to work with many institutions not committed to open access, free software etc. That's not the problem. The position of Wikimedia movement is in such position that it's not just about free knowledge, but about common good of the whole humanity. And (the most of)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Pine W
A chronic problem for most of the movement is a shortage of human resources, both volunteer and paid. Hopefully the work of Aaron H. and company on revision scoring will help us to keep more of our good-faith newbies. I also think that the bitey-ness of some Wikimedians can be counterproductive,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Pine W
According to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero_Template_Agreement and https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:WikiProject_Open_Access/Programmatic_import_from_PubMed_Central, the answer appears to be yes that Wikipedia Zero now includes Wikisource. (It would be good to get

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Pete Forsyth
For what it's worth, we had a panel discussion at WMF about this, with Open Access advocates and staff from WMF. Freely licensed video of the session is available on YouTube. See here for video links: http://wikistrategies.net/oa-Wikipedia-panel/ One of our panelists, John Dove, wrote a follow-up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
I don't really mind WMF working with closed-access publishers, if that works. What I think is that we don't put the same effort indoing something with the openaccess world: all the initiatives I know are volunteer-based. Two pop up in my mind: the Signalling Open Access project, aimed to put an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > I don't really mind WMF working with closed-access publishers, if that > works. > What I think is that we don't put the same effort indoing something with > the openaccess world: all the initiatives I know are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello, I felt strongly enough about Wikipedia's relationship with open access content that I wrote about the issue. < http://bluerasberry.com/2015/10/wikipedia-open-access-and-the-wikipedia-library/ > yours, On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > For what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-11-30 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > May we actually stop having anything with these pest? > > http://custodians.online/ I dont believe we can stop using closed access journals, as that would reduce the quality of our projects, but we can use links to them as