Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-29 Thread Frederick Noronha
A lot of arbitrary deletions (and Western-centric approaches) seem to have disincentives some volunteers. At least I can speak for myself. My conjecture is that if even I feel the Wikipedia, thanks to its many successes, is increasingly unable to reflect the diversity of our world, why should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-25 Thread Christophe Henner
I will only answer for our discussions during the board meeting. This goes two fold: * we have many teams, including in tech and product, that are understaffed. Without pointing at one specifically, I raised that at work I have team I can compare to the Foundation's one, on the very same topic,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-25 Thread Anders Wennersten
Many thanks, Tillman,  for your reply and also Christophes. Your analysis shows there are factors effecting pageviews that needs a qualified analysis to get to understand the numbers . I am also happy to see that there are clever people looking into this, and I was also  very glad to see, in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-24 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi Anders, some notes about possible reasons below. As a data analyst in the Foundation's Readers department, I am tracking our overall pageview numbers on a monthly basis, which we report to the WMF board alongside other metrics about editor activity etc. (This is also publicly available at [1],

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-24 Thread Christophe Henner
All across the web there is a trend in less page views due to the increase of mobile. People on mobile tend to click on less links than on desktop. So you can witness increase reach in users and less pageviews in total. Le 24 janv. 2018 08:59, "Shlomi Fish" a écrit :

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:55:07 +0100 Anders Wennersten wrote: > We are seeing a steady decrease of page views to our projects > (Wikipedia). Nov-Dec-Jan it is decreasing in a rate of 5-10% > (year-year), and for big languages like Japanese,  Spanish close to 10%, > or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-23 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Perhaps our readers aren't getting their topics of interest on Wikipedia, partly because Wikipedia is becoming nothing more than a biographical encyclopedia. Regards, Isaac. On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:54 PM, James Heilman wrote: > Our data is only comparable between May 2015

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-23 Thread James Heilman
Our data is only comparable between May 2015 and Dec 2017 so: Nov/Dec/Jan 15/16 total 15.7, 14.6, 16.2 Nov/Dec/Jan 16/17 total 16.4, 15.5, 17.0 Nov/Dec/Jan 17/18 total 15.3, 14.3, 16.4 (last number an estimate) So went up from 15/16 to 16/17 and now come down in 17/18 to about were it was in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

2018-01-23 Thread Wojciech Pędzich
In order to have at least a partial answer we would need to know how the pageviews relate to actual database traffic I assume? That would explain Google and I do not know whether there are any other services worldwide that use the datastram without actually displaying pages. Wojciech 2018-01-23