Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)

2014-07-04 Thread Andrew Gray
On 2 July 2014 01:08, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 As for the Volunteer Coordinator, he was Cary Bass and left the
 Foundation some time ago.  See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique
 or https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cary_Bass .

It's worth remembering that Cary's duties was essentially everything
else; when he was hired there were ten other staff, and by the time
he left there were still only a few dozen.

http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Staff_and_contractorsoldid=19911

This may explain why volunteer coordinator seems to cover such a lot :-)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)

2014-07-02 Thread Pine W
Hm. If we're assigning some special status to Meta-level committees, there
are many more of them in addition to the Board, AffCom and FDC. Just to
name some of them: we have 4 grants committees that I know of, the board's
Audit Committee which has some non-Board members, the Research Committee,
and the Ombudsman Commission. We also have some Meta and Outreach groups
like the volunteers who produce This Month in Education, This Month in
GLAM, and the weekly Tech News.

At one time I compiled a list of Meta committees because there was some
discussion that we might have a combined annual or semi-annual recruiting
drive for committee openings which would save some time and emails.

Pine


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:28 PM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org
wrote:

 Is sysop supposed to be an on wiki sysop?

 James Alexander
 Legal and Community Advocacy
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 (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur


 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

  Rjd0060 wrote:
  As for the Volunteer Coordinator, he was Cary Bass and left the
  Foundation some time ago. See
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique
  or https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cary_Bass .
 
  Indeed.
 
  There was also a Volunteer Development Coordinator position for a bit:
  https://www.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/87987.
 
  The original question remains unclear to me. How are volunteer positions
  which work for the Wikimedia Foundation defined? It seems unlikely we'll
  ever have completely accurate numbers here, but even ballparking is
  almost impossible without first establishing a very clear definition of
  who is and is not considered a volunteer and who is and is not considered
  working for the Wikimedia Foundation. And there are other important
  questions such as whether we're counting people or positions (e.g.,
  there is overlap between sysops and OTRS responders).
 
  MZMcBride
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)

2014-07-01 Thread Rjd0060
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Richard Ames rich...@ames.id.au wrote:

 I have done a very rough estimate / count:

 OTRS - 180
 Sysops - 50
 List Moderators -410
 SW Developers - 400
 FDC members - 9
 Affiliations committee - 9

 for a total of about 1060.

 Who is the 'Volunteer Coordinator' whose duties are listed at
 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Volunteer_Coordinator ??

 Regards, Richard.



I won't speak for the other numbers you presented but your OTRS count is
extremely off-base.  Currently, there are about 1400 open/active OTRS
accounts.  Many are staff but that would be less than 50%.  (I am an OTRS
admin - I get my number from record.)

As for the Volunteer Coordinator, he was Cary Bass and left the
Foundation some time ago.  See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique
or https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cary_Bass .


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)

2014-07-01 Thread Nathan
There are over four hundred list moderators?? I'm shocked there are even
that many people contributing to official mailing lists!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)

2014-07-01 Thread Rjd0060
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Richard Ames rich...@ames.id.au wrote:

 I have done a very rough estimate / count:

 OTRS - 180
 Sysops - 50
 List Moderators -410
 SW Developers - 400
 FDC members - 9
 Affiliations committee - 9

 for a total of about 1060.

 Who is the 'Volunteer Coordinator' whose duties are listed at
 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Volunteer_Coordinator ??

 Regards, Richard.



 I won't speak for the other numbers you presented but your OTRS count is
 extremely off-base.  Currently, there are about 1400 open/active OTRS
 accounts.  Many are staff but that would be less than 50%.  (I am an OTRS
 admin - I get my number from record.)

 As for the Volunteer Coordinator, he was Cary Bass and left the
 Foundation some time ago.  See
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique or
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cary_Bass .



To correct myself, there are ~650 open  active accounts.  I was looking at
the wrong list. :-)  Not nearly as high as my first number, but you still
see that it's a lot higher.

See also, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Users


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)

2014-07-01 Thread MZMcBride
Rjd0060 wrote:
As for the Volunteer Coordinator, he was Cary Bass and left the
Foundation some time ago. See
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique
or https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cary_Bass .

Indeed.

There was also a Volunteer Development Coordinator position for a bit:
https://www.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/87987.

The original question remains unclear to me. How are volunteer positions
which work for the Wikimedia Foundation defined? It seems unlikely we'll
ever have completely accurate numbers here, but even ballparking is
almost impossible without first establishing a very clear definition of
who is and is not considered a volunteer and who is and is not considered
working for the Wikimedia Foundation. And there are other important
questions such as whether we're counting people or positions (e.g.,
there is overlap between sysops and OTRS responders).

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)

2014-07-01 Thread James Alexander
Is sysop supposed to be an on wiki sysop?

James Alexander
Legal and Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 Rjd0060 wrote:
 As for the Volunteer Coordinator, he was Cary Bass and left the
 Foundation some time ago. See
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique
 or https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cary_Bass .

 Indeed.

 There was also a Volunteer Development Coordinator position for a bit:
 https://www.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/87987.

 The original question remains unclear to me. How are volunteer positions
 which work for the Wikimedia Foundation defined? It seems unlikely we'll
 ever have completely accurate numbers here, but even ballparking is
 almost impossible without first establishing a very clear definition of
 who is and is not considered a volunteer and who is and is not considered
 working for the Wikimedia Foundation. And there are other important
 questions such as whether we're counting people or positions (e.g.,
 there is overlap between sysops and OTRS responders).

 MZMcBride



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